Motion tween copy stacks symbols at end

I am trying to copy a motion tween to another symbol, and at the end of the motion, the symbols end up stacked on top of each other. How to I adjust the second symbol so it stays behind the first at the end of the motion path.

Yes, I did that when I first created the action layer before I thought about the timeline tween. So, after I created my tween and stretched all the other layers to match the THX sound duration, I neglected to delete the first stop(); action in the first frame of the action layer. I placed a blank keyframe at the end of my action layer and put the stop action there. That did the trick!
Thanks Ned.

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hi, im doing an animation (in CS5) for an independent art class and i had a question
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the animation isnt well organized
but here are some screen shots with the time line
http://imageshack.us/f/848/timeline.png/
http://imageshack.us/f/141/timeline2.png/
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If you are interested in getting decent results at some point youwill have to looke into the Bone-Tool or use a extension like DragonBones
The reason why you are having "Displacement"-problems lies in the "Math" behind how AnimatorFactory (the system behind Motion Tweens) handles transformations different from Tweens (Its outright misleading to call them Tweens, and Adobe did a poor naming job).
Right click one of the Motion tweens and chosy "copy as Actionscript 3.0" from the context menu then paste the code in any available textEditor and you will see sth like:
import fl.motion.AnimatorFactory;
import fl.motion.MotionBase;
import fl.motion.Motion;
import flash.filters.*;
import flash.geom.Point;
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You notice 2 two problems right away: while having the registration point in the center, Flash distorts the values:
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I am creating a website for a project and i am trying to activate a box bropping down from another box when i click on the enter here button i have created. I have set the motion tween and its working when i preview i just unsure of the correct actionscript to start this tween when i have clicked the entere here button or how to stop it at the end of the tween.
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Agreed that the motion editor is unintuitive and generally not very good.
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Adobe has made it a wild goose chase. For me, it only works if I don't have a second keyframe. Baffling, why should it behave so differently than classic tweening?!
People like me have been hitting their heads against the wall for years trying to get this to work. Absolutely asinine.
For the record and to repeat my huge gripe, it behaves nothing like classic tweening, where you define an end point and then "tween" between them. You can end up doing that, but you can't create the tween between two existing keyframes (even if they have the exact same single object in them).
So this is what's working for me now:
1 - Create a timeline layer with one single object in an initial keyframe (black dot indicates a keyframe). No more than one object can be tweened in one layer, but Adobe will not give you any userful feedback about this while you're working.
2 - On that layer, farther out in the timeline where there are no frames (what is the name for these "non-frames"?), right click where you want the tween to end, and select "Insert frame". (You'll have a black dot keyframe, a row of grey empty frames, and white box as a blank keyframe.
3 - Right click anywhere on the active part of that timeline and choose "Create Motion Tween", even though there is nothing to tween yet. After you do this, the span of frames should turn blue and the blank keyframe white box should disappear. Congratulations, you've created your first motion tween, but Adobe doesn't want you to know that. You need to actually go to individual frames and move the object around to get tweening to happen, as I outline in steps 4 and 5. Assuming your object is where you want it in the starting position, I would recommend going to the last frame to determine the final position next. Then you can do any number of middle positions (each frame can have a new position).
4 - (optional step, helps with positioning on the timeline) Scrub the timeline and find a frame where you want the trajectory of your object to change (at the very minimum, you'll want to move the object for one frame, otherwise there will be no motion)
5 - Move the object on the stage.
6 - Repeat 4 and 5 for as many frames as you want.
If you're not seeing motion paths that chart the motion, play with the little buttons on the bottom of the timeline, such as Onion Skinning. Lastly, just move the playhead left and right. If you're not seeing your object move, then blame Adobe some more, because this is far from immediately intuitive.

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should only be the symbol on that layer, there should be no other object, be careful, a single point can do not work
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No problem!
So do you notice how your blueballoonCopy has those chevron marks on the timeline? That's an indication of duration in a container such as a symbol or audio element. In your case, it's a total 30 sec. of transitions, and it's a symbol. When you want to loop things differently, they should be in their own timelines, i.e. in their own symbols.
You should do two things to get this set up:
Convert blueballoonCopy and GREEN_KIDS_BALLOONCopy3 into a single symbol, since they will both loop endlessly from the loopGrn label to the end. Put the playhead over the loopGrn label, then select it and the trigger at the end and cut them (Edit > Cut), and then double-click on the symbol on Stage to edit it and with the playhead at the same place, paste the label and trigger. You should now have the label at 26 sec., and the trigger at the end of the timeline. Navigate back to the Stage timeline, and these two elements will now loop endlessly in the brower.
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hth,
Joe

Motion Tween (CS4) - please help

I'm a student trying to finish (what should be) a pretty
simple assignment. I'm creating a 30 second banner. From frame 1 to
frame 90 (3 seconds), I have an image (movie clip) sliding in and
"bouncing" into place with a motion tween (used the motion editor
to get the "bounce in" ease effect on the tween). So, currently,
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disappears.
Now I want the symbol instance to stay in place for the next
x frames, while stuff on other layers slides in on "top" of it. But
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My instructor said just to go to the frame in the layer, go
to frame x and select it, then do insert>timeline>frames. But
that still screwed up my tween. The object slides into place, but
the "bounce in" ease is no longer visible.
I found this workaround - which doesn't seem very efficient,
but it worked. My motion tween ends at frame 90:
1) select frame 91, hit F7 to insert a blank keyframe.
2) go to and select frame 90, select the object on the stage,
copy it.
3) go to and select frame 91, paste in place.
4) Now go out to frame X, select it, and hit F5. Object now
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-BIlFiy_DY
So it is looking more like the grayed out options were correct.
I would hope that if you showed your instructor the problem you were having you wouldn't get any disfavor shown for your solution, especially if you were taught to do what you were trying to do... and it might even teach your instructor something.

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I have a character that I'm trying to animate. In particular it's an arm, hand, and finger. The animation is pretty much a character doing a "come and get your butt kick" animation with his gesture.
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I can't duplicate it.
I think what I did that wasn't working was the following:
I had an arm, hand, and finger. The animation was like a "hey come here".
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