MOVED: General overclocking tips

This topic has been moved to Overclocking, Undervolting.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=42515.0

Need help On step 3 cant find what you are talking about
Also DDR Voltage Mine only goes to 2.40 but it turns red when reaching 200
Many thanks

Similar Messages

General Editing Tips ...

Hi,
Does anyone know where I can get some general editing tips? I have just started editing my sisters wedding video for her after the main editor messed it up but I realised I just want to do some simple (I think?!) editing but not too sure how to do it. For example. I've seen people do this shot where they have a picture in the background and a drop of water falls on the picture and sends water ripples through it?
Ali.

I'd suggest you spend some time with a trainer, or buy some training material and learn... it's not tough, it's a lot to learn, but not hard.
Buy this book: http://www.amazon.com/Apple-Pro-Training-Final-Cut/dp/0321502655/ref=pdbbs_sr1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1203344688&sr=8-1
To make the pond ripple effect, choose it from the transition effects menu... and add it to a cut point.
Jerry
Message was edited by: Jerry Hofmann

MOVED: z77 overclocking help

This topic has been moved to Overclocking, Undervolting.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=162125.0

Quote from: Froggy Gremlin on 22-November-12, 08:44:12
I/O is ridiculously high. I can run Corsair RAM at 2800 on only I/O of 1.09v's, SA 0.970v's. Bernhard is right, '1.52v's' on the CPU is 'Absolute Max.', and the industry recommendation is not to exceed '1.400v's'.
Nominal DRAM V. for the platform is 'not' 1.65v's, but 1.50v's + or - 0.075v's. Your RAM sounds like overvolted, undertimed, overated RAM.
GT is the onboard graphics. GT ratio 32 is about all it can handle on default voltage.
It's your stuff, if you want to test higher, the risk to the components and lifespan is all up to you.
I think Bernhard wanted to link the Gen3 CPU datasheet rather than the Gen2.
I found datasheet for third gen of intel core, exact
G.skill ddr3 pc17000 is delivered with nominal voltage 1.65v for 2133Mhz, where is problem ? I've just made 3 hours of occt at 2600mhz, not tested higher for now
So I/o in auto mode is really too high with 1.25V ? so i took this voltage as nominal reference
Not so easy to overclock ivy bridge, I 'll stop to search highest frequency, 4,6Ghz even with 1.36V is not stable in occt with too high core temps 80°C, so sa xmad sayed, 4.5Ghz is a nice overclock
I'll try to optimise DDR speed and timing now.
Thanks for answers

MOVED: Accidentally overclocked memory to high, set back right away. GTX970

This topic has been moved to Overclocking, Undervolting.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=184164.0

Quote from: ihaseeb93 on 16-January-15, 16:01:22
Updated my BIOS a few days ago, now there is no way to OC. From what I understand I enable "My OC Genie" but that option isnt even availible. No way to change multiplier or voltage. Plus a few other things.
Please open your OWN topic.

MOVED: Difficult overclocking i7-4770k on an MSI Z97-G45

This topic has been moved to Overclocking, Undervolting.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=251097.0

My suggestion is update to the latest BIOS since it's improved RAM compatibility.
And see this compatibility report for OC memory, but crucial only tho..
http://www.msi.com/support/mb/Z97-G45-GAMING.html#support-ocmem

MOVED: P7N diamond bios and overclock tips

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=123868.0

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=123868.0

MOVED: Q6600 overclock with MSI p965 neo 2

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=133826.0

Quote from: skxprive on 25-December-09, 22:27:48
Thats right, as 10acjed said
(2x) 1 GB DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (6-6-6-18 @ 400Mhz) (5-5-5-15 @ 333Mhz) (4-4-4-12 @ 266Mhz )
I can also choose 800 Mhz like the picture of his, but the adjusted dram frequency differs and 800 will result in like ~999.
Btw the dram Mhz is on generally on [auto], but that is the same as 800.
So I set it to 667, So the adjusted dram freq will be around 830.
that could be your problem right there. Is that when you are running at 300 FSB??
Try it at 533 and see what happens... If it is at 830 when set to 667 and you try and raise the cpu higher its also raising the ram higher, probably causing an issue..
I am still pretty sure you are hitting a wall with that board, its just not a great overclocking board. I am extremely disappointed with my NEO-F as far as overclocking goes. But its been running stable for about 3 years now so its a good board....
If all else fails run it at 300 - 320 (as high as you can get stable) and put the ram at 667 so it runs around 830, ou will have a nice moderate OC...

Overclocking tips please

have a 3500+, 1 gig of pqi turbo 3200(2,2,2,5), raid 0 raptor hard drives,430 watt true power supply, ati 9800 xt, bios version 1.3.........i cant get the system to overclock much, it seems to only be stable at 225 fsb with ht x4 and multiplier at x11,agp is set at 67, i have the timing settings for the ram at 2.5,3,3,5,2t with 2.65v and cpu 225fsb with 1.55v with cooler master heat sink. i have the aggressive time settings for the memory in the bios on enable.........i keep on getting freezes and i have to manually turn off the computer when i try to go over 225, i've tried more vcore voltage, more relaxed timings for the ram, more voltage for the ram, aggressive timings on disable, ht x3, nothing will let me overclock more and be stable. i know this setup is capable of running faster but i think i have it configured wrong................please help!!!!!!!!

JER101 gives sound advice. I think just by the sound of things that the limiting factor in your overclock is your memory. If you want to know how to determine your limiting factor in your overclock, read this:
Disclaimer:
I do not know everything. I do not consider myself knowledgable. I believe the knowledgable ones are those that design the hardware and us enduser's are mere peons. This guide is a combination of personal knowledge coupled mainly with knowledge from those smarter than myself. My intent here is not to plagerize. I intend to relay knowledge in the fashion which I obtained it -- free of cost. If I'm plagerizing, I apoligze, my intentions were not to cheat someone out of their findings. If you find anything in this sticky that looks like one of your findings then please notify me and I will be happy to give you credit where credit's due.
Now that we've covered all the bases, what should you keep in mind:
CPU manufacturers do not make different processors -- they make one and test it at the highest speed possible. This may be the case with each different core/design but I'm can't say for sure (I don't know all the details, I do not work for a CPU manufacturer, I only know what I'm told). What I do know, however, is that they test the chip at the maximum supported frequency (for a barton processor that would be 2.33ghz (166x14).). If that frequency yields an unacceptable rate of failure then they the slow the processor down to the next fastest frequency (in the case of a barton that would be 2.2ghz (200x12).). After slowing the processor down, they run the tests again and if it passes with an acceptable rate of failure then they stamp it at that speed. However, if it fails, they slow the processor down again to it's next slowest frequency (2.15ghz (166x13).). and then they repeat the process until they achieve an acceptable rate of failure/success. Therefore, if you think about it, your processor wasn’t designed to run any faster than it was rated for, otherwise it would have been stamped at a higher clock frequency (unless of course your processor has the highest possible stamping for that line of products). Why should you keep this in mind? If you hit a wall when overclocking and your CPU is the culprit, it may just be the case that the CPU cannot stabilize itself at a higher frequency (meaning your current highest stable frequency is the max stable frequency).
As you have noticed, VCore and cooling play a crucial role in acheiving the highest stable overclock. You always want the least amount of VCore running through the chip becuase this limits electromigration (which decreases chip life) and it will keep the processor cooler (which increases chip life). When overclocking, it may seem easiest to raise the VCore to some arbitrarily high number that you know will work regardless of which settings you pick but I wouldn’t recommend doing it like that. I recommend starting out at the stock VCore and bumping it up one step at a time, incramenting the VCore from the first lowest VCore, to the second lowest VCore, to the third lowest VCore, etc, etc, etc, until you can stabilize your computer with whatever VCore you've reached. Cooling plays a crucial role because sometimes you cannot use a designated VCore with an insufficent means of cooling. If you can't run prime95 without errors at one VCore but you can at another (but the problem is the computer shuts off after a couple of seconds into the run) then chances are the temperatures rose too high and the thermal throttling diode kicked in and shut down the computer. An aftermarket means of cooling whether it be a good HSF or a good watercooling kit will help you keep your load temps down, jumps in temperature will be less severe and less frequent, and idle temps will drop as well. Therefore when overclocking, you should consider a motherboard that has a wide range of VCore options available and a means of cooling that can take that much VCore (for those of you who are wondering it's possible to calculate whether or not your selected means of cooling will be sufficent enough to dissapate the estimated amount of power your processor requires).
What else do you need to know:
When it comes to overclocking there are a lot of factors to consider. First and foremost is no two computer components are alike; just because one person with the same components as you got to a certain point does not mean you will get there. Next, when overclocking, more often than not you need to raise the Vcore when you raise your CPU frequency higher than stock. This was not the case for my winchester as I could hit 2500mhz (stock being 2000mhz) and I could do this without a bump in VCore (and it was superpi, 3dmark, pcmark, prime95 stable). Lets just say I couldn't hit 2500mhz, me personally, I would be happy with 2200mhz because I didn't have to raise my VCore (which in turn theoretically decreases chip life -- this is also coming from a guy who’s running his computer at 2750mhz with an unspoken VCore so I’ll let you weigh that last statement yourself).
What process do I follow when overclocking:
When overclocking there is a process you must follow, this process will help you determine the limiting factor in your overclock. Note that I do not condone raising voltages higher than stock but you can do it at your own discression but we are all xtreme here and so there's no doubt in my mind that most of you will take this with a grain of salt. One thing to consider when buying parts is which memory module/s you're going to use. When I bought my computer, I had overclocking in mind and I bought PC4400 memory. Why would you want to buy memory that supports a higher FSB? PC4400 stands for the bandwidth of the memory (therefore PC4400 memory transmits data at 4.4GB/s as opposed to PC3200 which transmits data at 3.2GB/s -- you can see why someone would want higher frequency memory). FYI: If you're worried you may not be able to run your memory at it's rated speed if it's not PC3200, you can always keep it's rated timings (which are usually slower than PC3200) and lower the frequency to 200mhz (memory always runs at lower frequencies). If you've already purchased your components and you did not consider higher memory bandwidth at the time then you're forced to use your PC3200, PC2700, or PC2100 memory (most computers now a days require PC3200 memory) then you're going to use dividers. Dividers can also be used when your processor can go further but your memory can't (ie. you have a 3200+ A64 (locked max multiplier of 10) and you want to acheive more than 2500mhz with your 250mhz ram, you would put your memory on a divider and you would raise the FSB higher than 250 keeping your 10 mulitplier. This would keep your ram within specifications (it may not run at 250 but it will run higher than 200 (which is better than nothing) and your processor would go higher than 2500mhz).
Now that you've picked the right memory, what do you do:
First you raise your FSB to match your memory's stock FSB (pc3200 @ 200mhz FSB or pc4000 @ 250mhz FSB). Simultaneously, you lower your mutliplier so that your CPU frequency is now lower than stock (stock is 2000mhz so your new frequency is ~1600mhz (200x8 or 250x6). This omits your processor from the equation's list of potential problems because the CPU was designed to run at a higher frequency with your current (stock) VCore. Now that you've successfully set your FSB and lowered your multiplier so that your current CPU frequency <= stock CPU frequency, you would run memtest86+ for two entire days to ensure your memory is no longer going to be considered a limiting factor in your overclock. Memtest will help ensure that your memory is not the reason for your overclocking problems.
Quote
originally written by eva2000
memtest ain't 100% but you can use memtest to guage the max possible FSB/MEM which is the top limit of what you can expect... since i don't think i've ever experienced windows 100% stability and error free at a speed higher than the highest memtest passable speed
therefore
max FSB/MEM speed (100% windows error free/stability) <= max FSB/MEM speed (memtest error free)
My experiences and testing methods
test #1 - 4
are cpu fsb speed and or vcore related (meaning lowering fsb or increasing vcore saw errors in these tests disappear)
test #5
prior to 865/875 boards - memory speed, timings and vdimm related (meaning altering mem speed, timings and/or vdimm saw errors in this test disappear)
test#6
with 865/875 boards bigtoe has said related to cycle time (tras) in cpuz which i sort of confirmed with my current testing
note: prior to 865/875 boards, i've never had memory errors in test #6 only since these new boards have i experienced test #6 errors
test #7
not sure very rarely have i experienced errors
extended test
test #8 is a more intensive version of test #5
most memory related errors pop up at test #5 hence i like looping test #5 for memory testing for 12-24hrs after 1-4hr general standard loop of test #1-7
i like to loop test #3 and/or #4 for cpu related issues
I follow it up with at least goldmem 5.07:
2 quick test loops
+
2-4 full standard loops <-- can take forever trying doing it with 4 x 512mb xms3200c2
to loop a particular test
Note: if you decide to overclock your memory (pc3200 @ 225 FSB) then you will probably need to raise your VDimm and/or retard your memory timings (the ram you buy will determine which of the two you will end up doing). Ultimately you will be the judge as to what's acceptable and what's not. You can and should always record your results and test each of them with benchmarking ultilities so you know that your getting the most performance (in other words, a small gain in FSB with very laxidazical memory timings may yield worse benchmarks than a slightly slower FSB with tight timings). Now that you know this, raise your FSB in incraments of 5 mhz. test as specified and raise again. when you get an error you can back down 5 mhz and live with that, and/or raise VDimm and try again, and/or retard the timings and try again. When error time comes, you will be the judge of this.
Note: I got my DDR333 memory (166mhz) to run successfully at DDR374 (187mhz) with a change in timings of 2-2-2-5 to 2-2-2-11. The processor would not boot with a 200mhz FSB (in order to do so I would have to close a bridge and I was not willing to mod the customer's processor) but had I modded the processor I honestly believe I could have gotten the DDR333 memory to run at DDR400 speed with the right timings.[/SIZE]
Now what:
Now that you've reached a stable FSB that your memory can handle, begin to raise your multiplier. Try and pick a frequency that's <= stock frequency this way you don't need to experiment with Vcore just yet. Once this runs prime95 at priority 10 with inplace FFTs for days with no errors you can raise your multiplier. Raise it one notch at a time, recording your results with benchmarking tools to ensure your getting the most performance with each change that you make. If you run into errors, raise the Vcore and try again. Make sure to monitor the temperatures when using prime95, you don't want to kill your processor with too much heat. You will either find a sucessful outcome or you won't. Successful outcomes are higher CPU frequency that's prime95 stable with or without a bump in VCore. Unsuccessful outcomes are prime95 instability with or without a bump in VCore or prime95 stability with/without a bump in VCore but temperature problems forced you to end the test prematurely.
If you follow these steps you will know why your computer won't overclock anymore -- whether it be ram (timings), ram (FSB), ram (voltage), temperatures, cpu (multiplier), cpu (voltage), etc, etc, etc...
Note: if you want to test just your processor in prime95 and take the memory out of the equation (or take as much of the memory out of the equation as possible) then you would run a prime95 tortue test called "Small FTT's".
When I get the time, I will add certain components I have experience with into this sticky and my suggestions as to what parts you should purchase with them and what parts you should stay away from.[/FONT]

MOVED: cannot overclock H55M ED55 with i3 540

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=146235.0

henry,my CM psu is fine, its been running a heavly overclocked [email protected] on a abit IP35 with 4gb of A-Data 1066+ running at 2.35v@1200mhz for 3 years,so i doubt a i3 540 and 4gb of ddr3 is going to really cause it that much of an issue but just to be on the safe side i borrowed a thermaltake toughpower 750 psu and still ran in to exactly the same issues. Also on your advice i borrowed 4gb of crucial ballistix tracers and again same problems i've been having? However on the advice of another H55M ED55 user ive downgraded the bios to 1.3 and used the o.c genie button it'll run at 3.7ghz but i cannot get it to run at that manually? i feel that the board may have a faulty/damaged ram socket because out the 12gb ive tested none will run without bluescreens when socket 1 and 2 are filled but when i only put 2gb of ANY make of ram in socket 1, it will overclock automatically with the BLUE button as i call it(i normaly would never ever use anything like the o.c genie but i'm so tired and p$%ed off with the whole thing!)
if that reply sounds arsey, it really isnt meant to be but nearly 3 weeks 6 forums 200+ views no answers kinda gets to you after a while? and i appreciate everything you've suggested and help you've offered, i'm open to anything else if you have any,no matter how daft the suggestion!
andy

MOVED: BIOS Overclocking, help please!

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
BIOS Overclocking, help please!

Quote from: MurdoK on 13-January-06, 17:23:55
Hello !!
Please tell us which Motherboard you are talking about ?
Greetz MurdoK
I'm an idiot!!! I forgot to post which mobo I'm using!!! jajajajaja
I'm using an MSI K8N NEO4 PLATINUM
Greets!

MOVED: [Athlon64] Overclocking Help

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
[Athlon64] Overclocking Help

if you have a MSI motherboard look on the driver cd. maybe you can find corecenter. if you cant find it. use clockgen for increasing HTT bus speed, A64tweaker for regulating anything that has to do with memory, and use a program like speedfan or smartguardian to control your fans and temps. good luck.

MOVED: Lose overclock after suspend

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=110530.0

I have the same problem, only S3, no problem with S1
See my post
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=108460.0https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=108460.0
No solution for the moment, i ask msi support but they don't understand my problem, perhaps because my english is poor.
I'm french.
Msi answer
Regarding to your concern, it is normal and don't worry about it, Also, we don't recommend you overclock and adjust the option in BIOS manually for your system stability.
We aslo have tested this issue again and we still have not replicated your problem.
And we don't recommend you adjust the CPU vcore to high manually for your system stability. And if you still can not resolve your problem, please contact your reseller to ask for a help. If the reseller for some reason can not be contacted, then contact MSI™ distributor or MSI™ office near your place

MOVED: help, overclocking vga ?windows/bios glitch?

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=100273.0

Quote
funny names for the same stuff just to confuse users
Pretty much says it all. On all the forums I go to you have to "read between the lines" and go with what makes sense because everybody seems to use different names. When you break it down and run the numbers usually you can "translate" what they are saying into what you like to call it. Definetly confusing for the those trying to learn.
I prefer when people use HT for HyperTransport Bus instead of HTT(HyperTransportTechnology), and HTT or FSB(even though FSB if it's absolutely incorrect name in A64) for the base clock generator for which HT, CPU are based on.
Reason being, alot of applications Clockgen, A64 Overclock Calc, etc use "HTT" for the clockgenerator which is not the HyperTransport speed in those applications. Who came up with this and when or why is a mystery, and no one seems to know what it stands for. I call it the HyperTransportTimer(HTT) as it is the best words I can come up with that actually describe it's use.
Quote
What about mem voltage, vcore, nforce voltage settings?
Start out with everything default/auto and see how far you can get. You might reach your target on stock settings with a decent 165.

MOVED: Help overclocking

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Undervolting & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=157451.0

Did a little better today , but still not much success. I can lower the fsb all day long and it will boot just fine. Pchas01 using your settings it did better than it ever did , made it all the way to the windows loading screen before it locked up . Usually it just does not post at all. Tried several different settings and the closest I made it was using Phas01 settings. I did not adjust the vvt because I honestly did not know witch voltage setting to mess with .Like I said still really green at this . Could this be a ram to cpu ration problem ? Memory is running at 5-5-5-18 timmings and is stable at those timmings with a fsb of 900. Like I said in a post earlier I can overclock to 2.7 with the duel core thing and run prime 95 with crashes.
Maybe this would be easier if I let you guys know what I am trying to archive. Right know until I learn more about this stuff all I want to accomplish is a little ole 3.0 over clock .When I gain more knowledge I am sure I will try to push the envelope, but thats all I want for know.
Thanks for you help
Brandon

MOVED: [Athlon64] Overclocking AMD Athlon64 on MSI RS480M2-IL

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
[Athlon64] Overclocking AMD Athlon64 on MSI RS480M2-IL

Quote from: xlinkch on 06-July-05, 00:46:15
Vdorta: Can give more instruction how to run the ClockGen program??? Do I have to load it every time my Windows bootup???
I don’t have my computer at hand, so the following is from memory, aided by the ClockGen site:
1. Download the RS480-specific zip file to a folder and extract its contents.
2. Run the CG-ICS951412.exe file; click on the “Get” button to obtain the current FSB value; adjust the new FSB value you want (there are five values: 200, 204, 210, 214, 220). I tried and tested them all and they were stable in my machine, so I chose the highest, 220.
3. Create and save in the same folder a simple text file, for example, “filesave.txt” with a text editor (I used Notepad) with the following two lines in it:
[CG-ICS951412]
FSB=204
(where FSB is the value you have chosen from ClockGen.exe); every time you change the value, you have to modify the text file to include the new value, of course.
4. Create a shortcut to CG-ICS951412.exe; right click the shortcut and select “Properties”; add “-file=filesave.txt” to the “Target” field so that it should look something like this:
“C:\ClockGen\CG-ICS951412.exe -file=filesave.txt”
5. In order for Windows to load the program at boot, place the shortcut in the Startup folder.

MOVED: General overclocking tips

Similar Messages

Maybe you are looking for