Multiple receivers asynchronous interface

HI,
I have a scenario wherein a third party sends file to ECC and some validations are being done at the ECC and a count of the records that have errors, count of records that are processed and a count of the success records are being spit out of SAP as email. Also, a file with those error records are being sent out.
Now, my question is....I will not be sending the file back if there are no error records but email notification will be sent no matter what so that it includes the total records processed, failed (0 in this case), and success.
When I use the same outbound proxy, is that possible to accomplish ?
I mean the situation wherein I will not be sending file but I will be sending email. I have the same outbound interface in both the cases i.e to send emails as well as to send the file back.
That will be great if someone could shed some light on this. Also, is there anyway I can include the file name that is being sent to SAP in the mapping so that I can mention that in the email saying "Following is the file that was sent..and it has so and so error records...."
Many thanks.

Nothing much to think about. Create 180+ communication channels and same number of receiver agreements and interface determinations!
If you feel that all the 50 FTP servers are part of the same business system, create 1 receiver determination and 180 interface determintions. It might look a bit less messy.
I have worked in other middleware products. Frankly, this is not how others work!!!! They provide provisions for changing any parameter of a communication channel at runtime.
All the best,
kk

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Hi Tirumal,
<i>For this to achieve do we have to create multiple business systems for each receiver?</i>
As you know,Business system is a logical name for the Techincal Systems, Theoretcially it is not required to create different Business systems for the each receivers.
Generally Business Systems are grouped/created based on the Business Process/Functionality/Type of Receivers etc.
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Hi all,
I registered on SAP community several months ago, I found many good hints and solutions to some of the problems encountered in XI and for which I thank you, but this is the first time I address a question to a common issue, written already about.
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> In sxmb_moni, I get the error: "No receiver could be determined". If I remove one of the conditions, then the output is sent on both receiver adapters, instead of only the one that fulfills the condition.
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I think the problem in Receive Determination. As you mentioned when you remove one of the condition then it works..
What I concluded is, I think while creating your Receiver Determination for multiple receivers you added the receivers by pressing the plus sign and that means you are using mulitiple receivers with "AND" condition, so in this condition when both the condition will be true then only you will get success.
What you can do is, Just remove one of the receivers and then add it by pressing the "OR" symbol i.e. by pressing this ( [ ] ) symbol and put your conditions as you like.
I hope what I have concluded is correct..
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hi,
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If Want to send messages to different receivers.
Go to -> Integration Directory-> Open the receiver determination step in change mode.
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I had a query that "Is it possible to send one Msg to different receivers without using BPM...?
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actually I'm using the JMS API to create a lightweight MQ service for Java ME tailored for my purposes. I'm generally familiar with JMS but I have some question to which I couldn't find the answer neither in the API spec nor on google. I think that many of you can answer it.
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At first, is it possible to create multiple receivers on the same queue (same or different sessions)? Generally, I though a queue can only have one consumer since the call of receive() >will delete the message from the queue so that a theoretical second consumer couldn't get the message anymore. But int the APi docs, it doesn't explain what happens if you call >createReceiver() multiple times. Will it throw an exceptions?If you have multiple receivers on the same queue then the JMS provider will distribute messages between the two receivers on the basis that each message goes to only one receiver. The exact distribution of messages depends on the JMS provider, and is not mandated by the JMS specification.
A similar question goes for topics. A topic is supposed to support multiple subscribers. When subscribers register listeners, I understand it. But what if they don't and instead call >receive() which is available because TopicSubcriber extends MessageConsumer. Is the message also deleted from the queue or is receive not supported for topics and will throw an >exception? You can consume messages from a topic using either a MessageListener or by calling receive(). They both work in the same way.
Will it remain until all subscribers have either called receive on that message or have been notified by onMessage? If yes, what happens if a subscriber doesn't call receive. Does the message stays there forever? What if new messages coming in, will the queue wait until the previous message is completely consumed?Essentially, if you send a message to a topic then it will be delivered to every subscriber, irrespective of whether that subscriber is synchronous (calling receive() or asynchronous (supplying a MessageListener).
In both cases, the consumer might not actually be ready to accept that message just yet (the applicaiton might not have called receive() yet, or onMessage() is still processing a previous message). In this case the message will be held within the JMS provider in an internal queue of messages designated for that specific consumer. Logically speaking, there's an internal queue for each consumer, rather than an internal queue for the whole topic, though how the provider actually implements this will vary. Note that the concept of each subscriber on a topic having its own internal queue is not one described in the documentation, it's just a way for me to explain it.
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From my point of view, I tend to only allow one receiver for a queue.
If the receiver calls receive, the message will be deleted. For topics, I would only allow listeners, not receive() calls.
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