Multiple Sold-to-Parties in Organizational Model

Dear All,
I've made an Organizational Model with multiple Sold-to-Parties. With that the same amount of Distribution Channels and Divisions have to be maintained, which i have done.
The problem now is that i can't seem to maintain the relation of those Distribution Channels and Divisions with the Business Partner in the Sales area Data of the Sold-to-Party in transaction BP. I can only choose between the original Sales Organization, Distribution Channel, and Division.
The only thing that has changed is that it isn't called Distribution Channel 01 / Division 01 anymore, but the name i gave it. That is the strange part too, since that's done in the same transaction where i've added the other Distribution Channels and Divisions too.
Hopefully anyone can tell me how the Distribution Channels and Divisions i've added will show up in the Sales Area Data in order to link them to the Sold-to-Party.
Thanks in advance,
R.Kunst

Hi Gun. and Jay.
Thanks for both of your reactions, you're both thinking in the same direction as I am, and where I think we should look for the solution to this problem...
Gun: You've understood me right and yes, I've already tried exactly what you've told me, but that doesn't work somehow.
What I mean by the line you didn't understand is this:,I've made changes to the Distribution Channel and Division that were already provided by SAP, and those changes show up in the Sales Area Data. The Divisions and Distribution Channel I've added don't show up though. So i know I've changed the settings in the correct Transaction, but they still don't show up.
Jay: I've also tried what you're telling me, because I think that should be the right way too, but that didn't work and I don't know why...
Hopefully we can find an answer to this together since I've already heard from more people who have encountered the same problem.
Best Regards,
Reinier Kunst
NewColutions B.V.

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