Nesting into different sequence settings

Howdy, I have an assumption I would like to check.
I have a final sequence edited in NTSC DV.
I want to avoid DV recompression on the way to Compressor and DVD, so I am moving it to an 8-bit sequence.
In the past I have done this by copying all the contents to the new sequence.
But it occurs to me that it might be the same result if I nest the DV sequence in the 8-bit sequence instead.
Is it the same... i.e. no rendered DV recompressions will make it through the DV sequence either way?
Reasons to bother: want to avoid confusion with any further fixups, and I want to apply BS and audio compression to the nest anyway.
Thanks.

As far as I know, only markers in the sequence time ruler and cuts in the sequence you encode will make it through as compression/edit/cut markers/in Compressor. So if you edit one sequence into another, you'll have to get the markers into the "container" sequence. You can do this by nesting all the clips within the original sequence, or by duplicating the sequence and editing the original into it.
Some potential advantages to not nesting in this way:
Compressor will put an I-frame at each cut in your sequence, whereas nesting them will only allow Compressor to put extra I-frames on chapter or compression markers you have added.
By placing a broadcast safe filter on the entire nested sequence, you are possibly clamping down on the luma and saturation on clips that don't need it, but more importantly, you are forcing FCP to process that filter even for the 80-90% of frames in your sequence which would be unaffected by it, greatly increasing your render/encode times.
I usually wind up cusotmizing a BS filter and saving it in the favorites bin, same with audio compression, and then quickly adding it to individual clips or groups by dragging from the favorites, or by pasitng attributes.
Happy editing -
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