No Scene Detect option in HDV project only SD

When capturing my HD footages, I've noticed that the scene detect option is grayed out but when I downconvert the HD footage and capture into a SD project, the option then becomes avail.
Does this feature only work in SD projects?

If you use HDVSplit, a free program, you will have scene detect.
Personally, I prefer using Cineform Aspect HD for other reasons besides the fact it has scene detect, but it is only fair to mention HDVSplit.

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Scene Detect Error in HDV

I am using sony HC9 HDV and Premiere CS3.
when I capture the tape in HDV, the funtion of Scene Detect can not be used.
it can only be used in down convert mode.
i have tried 2 computers and 3 different capture cards.
is there anyone facing the same problem?
can anyone help me please?
thor.

Alas no scene detection in Premiere, use HDVSplit.
http://strony.aster.pl/paviko/hdvsplit.htm

Elements 12 - Scene Detect

Maybe a dumb question but, where is the Scene Detect option in the capture panel. Is it supposed to be here in the grey area under the Save To option?

Hello again.
I was able to get the "Split Scenes" options to work- but only once. I tried the suggestions and left the DV camera turned off before launching PrE 12 and "add media". The split scenes options did show up. At this point I turned the DV camera on, and the program hung. I waited a bit then eventually forced Windows to close it. I re-launched PrE and the split scene option was still present so I went forward and began to capture 50 min of tape. Somewhere around 45 min. I received an error message and the capture stopped. I believe the error message was, "interruption in recording..." Strange, since Windows photo gallery was able to capture without issue.
I opened the folder where the capture was recorded and there was only one file so the scene detect did not really work. I don't know if this was a result of the interruption in the capture or not. I decided to try again from the beginning. 1. Closed PrE, 2. turned the camera OFF, 3. Re-launched PrE, 4.Selected New Project. This time the "scene detect" option did not show up. I rebooted the machine, tried again and it appeared. Turned the camera on and the program hung. I repeated my steps above but was not successful getting the options to appear again. At this point I gave up for the night.
I do like to editing capabilities but it seems that PRE does not handle media capture well. In the past I would capture with Windows Photo gallery then import the files into PrE.
I'm evaluating Elements 12 via the 30 day trial at the moment and I'm starting to have reservations about dropping $100 for it. I do wish I could get it to work because I beleieve it does have it's advantages over the simpler Windows Live Movie Maker.
regards,
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Scene Detection Broken in CS6?

I'm having awful difficulty capturing video in CS6. Specifically, every 60 seconds or so CS6 keeps prompting me to save the scene it thinks it's captured, even though scene detection is *not* checked (it is off) and abort on dropped frames is also off.
I'd be happy to just have it capture the tape as a single scene, but it refuses to cooperate.
I am unable to disable scene detect, it seems.
The only other reports I was able to find relate to CS5 and the suggestions there do not seem to make any difference.
Re: Possible Work Around for Capture and Scene Detect
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Mac OS X 10.10.2
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I ended up enabling scene detect and babysitting this particular tape. That was extremely painful and not what I expected from a professional product like Premiere.
As a side note, it seems like scene detect works and that this is perhaps a problem with a separate mechanism that tries to detect the end of tape or something.

Using Auto- Analyzer for Scene detection only (and save time)

As a completely new user of Premier Elements 8 (running on a AMD phenom 3 core, 4g Ram, 500G Sata HD, Win Xp prof) I brought into Organise in the PE8 workspace clips imported in through Windows Movie Maker from my old DV video camera. I wanted to dectect the scene boundaries so I ran Auto-Analyse from the PE8 workspace. This took upto 4 hrs to analyse a 1hr clip which puzzled me as Movie maker only took about 20mins to detect the scenes on a much slower and lower spec laptop.
Tip
If you just want to Scene Detect don'r run Auto-Analyze from Premier workspace instead start with your first clip via the Organiser.   Reason - In the PE8 workspace "Edit" "preferences" Auto-Analyze does not appear so it will run with the defaults which is all tag options selected e.g "focus" "face recognition".
Instead go into Organise from the front page launcher, in "Edit" "preferences" Autoanalyse does appear with all the tag options selected as default   If you deselect all options and then run Autoanalyse on the video clip only scene detection runs on the video (the 1 hour clip was analysed with just the scene boundaries in less than 15mins!) The change from the default seems to apply when you run from the PE8 workspace after this so subsequent scene detection on other clips runs quickly.
P.S.
Old hands may know this trick but so far I had not picked anything up from the web based docs and information - so this is for novices such as myself. There may be other ways of scene detection but in my limited experience have not come across any yet.

As a completely new user of Premier Elements 8 (running on a AMD phenom 3 core, 4g Ram, 500G Sata HD, Win Xp prof) I brought into Organise in the PE8 workspace clips imported in through Windows Movie Maker from my old DV video camera. I wanted to dectect the scene boundaries so I ran Auto-Analyse from the PE8 workspace. This took upto 4 hrs to analyse a 1hr clip which puzzled me as Movie maker only took about 20mins to detect the scenes on a much slower and lower spec laptop.
Tip
If you just want to Scene Detect don'r run Auto-Analyze from Premier workspace instead start with your first clip via the Organiser.   Reason - In the PE8 workspace "Edit" "preferences" Auto-Analyze does not appear so it will run with the defaults which is all tag options selected e.g "focus" "face recognition".
Instead go into Organise from the front page launcher, in "Edit" "preferences" Autoanalyse does appear with all the tag options selected as default   If you deselect all options and then run Autoanalyse on the video clip only scene detection runs on the video (the 1 hour clip was analysed with just the scene boundaries in less than 15mins!) The change from the default seems to apply when you run from the PE8 workspace after this so subsequent scene detection on other clips runs quickly.
P.S.
Old hands may know this trick but so far I had not picked anything up from the web based docs and information - so this is for novices such as myself. There may be other ways of scene detection but in my limited experience have not come across any yet.

No HDV option under 'New Project'

I've just set up Adobe Premiere Pro CS4 on a second computer, which is a laptop, to help with the workload. I edit on a desktop computer, but I also have n eSATA drive, so the plan is to have my laptop capturing from the video camera, then transfer the files to the external drive for when I need them on the desktop.
However, after selecting 'New Project' in Premiere Pro CS4 on the laptop, I do not get the option to create a HDV project and therefore can not capture high defintion footage. It just gives me this:
Anyone know what the problem is? The laptop is quite powerful but I've never tried HD editing on it (it's usually used for Photoshop). It should be powerful enough to at least capture the files.

Either it is a trial version or the full version converted to trial which has no mpeg (hdv) capabilities.
Deinstall, run cleanscript CS4 a couple of times and reinstall.
http://www.adobe.com/support/contact/cs4clean.html

Once more: hdv -- scene detection

Hello,
what is the reason that premiere cs4 is not be able to detect scenes in HDV material?
Why "we" have to use HDVSplit?
Carlos

Ask Adobe. They are always last to introduce such basic functionality that is readily available in freeware/shareware for ages. Look at DV. Scenalyzer offered scene detection for more than two years before Adobe finally caught up and still does not compare favourably to Scenalyzer that offers a lot more. Adobe probably needs to progress to CS7, meanwhile stealing our $$ for each and every upgrade and still not delivering on time.
IMO there is nothing wrong with HDVSplit. It works reliably and does what we expect it to do. If you don't like this answer, contact Adobe, maybe they can get their stuff together before 2015. (ETA CS5: 2011, CS6: 2013, CS7:2015)

Scene Detect in HDV?

I can't believe that scene detect doesn't work in HDV - how is this even remotely possible? iMovieHD has this and its a free app that comes with the computer!
Is there any chance that Adobe is going to include this in an update?

Actually Howard, it matters quite a bit. I could not work without Scene Detect. David is correct that it is quite surprising.
The simple solution is to use a free program "HDVSplit". A better solution is to purchase Aspect HD and use the included HDLink to Scene detect for you.
Using Scene Detect eliminates much of the audio slippage caused by broken GOPs.

HDV Scene Detect

It's already v4.0.1 and still, no scene detect for HDV.
Adobe, wake up and smell the competition....

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Scene Detection plug-in options for Pr? Speed Grade just stops detecting

Hello all: We use Pr to cut and recut 30min to 3hr programs. I would really like to use a scene detect plug-in to help speed things up by cutting up the Line cut clip, so I can cut in multi cam ISOS.
I've tried to use Speed Grade and it just stops for no apparent reason after ~15 mins into either clip I've tried.
Plus, a lot of our deliverable clips are exported as MXF which won't work in Speed Grade.
Any suggestions for a plug-in for scene detection?
Thanks,
Tolbert

If you're in CC, what codec the clips are doesn't matter in a Direct Link workflow to SpeedGrade ... you should be able to use anything PrPro handles (though this is not always perfect, just mostly). Other than exporting say an EDL from PrPro to use Sg's scene detection capability? Hmmm. At that point, yea, MXF wouldn't work. Unless you proxied into Sg & re-conformed back in PrPro to "online" files. Boy, that's an old workflow these days!
I can certainly see why you'd want scene-detection automated if possible. That would take some time, scrubbing then working down to exact frames if there's a bunch of scenes per show. Maybe shooternz can pop in here ...
Neil

Premiere Pro CS4: Timecode issues (Scene Detect, Free Run)

Hi folks,
I am most familiar with Premiere Pro CS3. In the past, I have created multi-camera sequences that are synchronised by timecode. I have been shooting using the Free Run timecode feature across all cameras, as to maintain a sync'd timecode.
Now that I am using Premiere Pro CS4 at work, I am running into a few issues in preserving my timecode values during capture. I have recorded HDV footage using two Sony Z7's. I downconvert the HDV footage into DV upon capturing - this is so that I can use the scene-detect feature, and still supposedly preserve the timecode for each media file. I captured all of the tapes using scene-detect, and the timecode values were correct for each media file captured.
Having saved, closed, and reopened my Premiere Project the next day, the timecode values for the majority of the media files have been reset (ie, they all start at "0:00:00:00". This is very odd! Only a few of the media files have retained their correct timecode values.
Has anyone else experienced this? Could they please shed some light on this problem or quirk? Am I taking the wrong approach in capturing/organising media? I am following the same procedure as I had done in PPro CS3.
I have since deleted the Media Cache/Preview Files, requiring Premiere to re-index, and re-conform the media files. The timecode values are still incorrect. When I select all of my media files and tell them to go 'offline', the correct timecode values re-appear.
Many thanks for your help,
Andrew

Does anyone have an answer to this problem?? I think I am having the same problem. I don't have as much experience as the others on the
forum, but basically what I tried to do was filming a multi-camera event in free run timecode, then
captured in HDV split, and assumed I could get Premiere to align the clips accordingly. Anyone have any idea how to do this????
Any help is appreciated,
Thanks,
Aaron

Clarification on Scene Detect?

I can't find any clarification on what all connections enable Scene Detect to work. Is it only via Firewire (IEEE 1394) with the HDV/DV formats, or will it work through SDI/HD-SDI? In my particular case, I'd like to connect my Sony DSR-1500A DVCAM deck via its add-on SDI board to the HD-SDI input on a Blackmagic Design DeckLink Studio card. (We don't have that SDI board for the Sony decks yet; right now we're using analog component connections because the Blackmagic card, when installed, disables the use of the computer's built-in Firewire for capture/output. Obviously there is no Scene Detect with analog connections.) Computer platform is Windows 7 64-bit Edition. Blackmagic Design had no definitive answer for me, and said for me to contact Adobe.

Harm,
Thank you. My reasons for wanting to go with SDI are not really related to a quality increase (or perceived quality increase); it's more from a practical connection standpoint. Since Firewire/IEEE-1394 is not supported by the BM card, and the analog component connection takes away video monitoring capability on the Sony DSR-1500A deck -- there are exactly 3 BNC connections for output, configured in the menu for either component, Y/C, or composite, but not simultaneously -- the only remaining option is SDI, which is widely regarded as the professional way to connect digital components anyway.
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>>> Harm Millaard <[email protected]> 5/18/2011 4:18 PM >>>
If the deck outputs the date/timestamp over SDI, it may be possible to use scenedetection if BM supports that, but chances are that since it is already on tape and compression has already taken place, there is no benefit at all from using SDI. You are maybe better off with regular capturing, since the signal has been compressed and nothing will get that back to better quality. SDI is great for live recording, but once recorded on tape, you are out of luck.

IMovie and auto scene detection

i would really really like to turn this option off.
in previous versions iMovie imported full clips - how do I get it to do this again with iMovie 9??
I looked in preferences and do not see the option to turn auto scene detection off.
I use iMovie to import and then i turn around and export to QuickTime Full Res for use in Final Cut Pro.
Thanks!
Enero

iMovie does not capture timecode...which is one of the most important things in video editing. If you edit and spend months on a project, and the drive containing your media dies...gone...then you are hosed. Because you cannot recapture the footage exactly the same way you did before...you'll have to re-edit from scratch.
If you have timecode, then when you went to recapture the footage, it would keep the same IN and OUT points and recapture the clips and your timeline would remain intact.
A better way? What is wrong with capturing with FCP? It is designed to do this you know...
A better way would be to get a capture card like the AJA Kona LHe and capture the footage as DVCPRO HD. MUCH easier to work with than HDV native, and not as lossy picture wise as AIC.
Yes...the AIC has significant quality loss. But..depends what you are editing.
Shane

Scene Detect not functioning in Premiere Pro CS6

Hello all,
Having an issue with Scene Detect not recognizing individual scenes when I Capture HDV footage from my Canon XH series cameras. Tapes just come in as one long file rather than individual scenes. I am using CS6 on my MAC computers (OS 10.7.5 and 10.6.8).
This is baffling as I've captured many tapes from many weddings and have never experienced this problem to this point.
I did reset my cameras to default settings recently but can't seem to find anything that would indicate that causing the issue. However, it is the only change I have made unless a recent Adobe or OS update could have caused the issue?
Your help and knowledge are greatly appreciated!

Problem solved.
For anyone seeking a possible solution to this simple but incredibly aggravating issue: Make sure your camera's date and time fields are set. Premiere Pro's "Scene Detect" function uses your cameras time signature to differentiate scenes in your captured footage. No time code = no individual scene detection.
When I reset my camera to default settings I erased my time and date fields. I wasn't too worried about it as I typically use these cameras for their HD SDI capability with timecode captured via Tricaster, however this became a frustrating problem when I used the cameras for a recent wedding capture and I now have four long files rather than the intended multiple scenes I need for editing...
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How achieve highest playback quality from shared iMovie HDV Project?

I have a Sony HDR-HC9 1080i HDV tape camcorder and I am able to play back HD video to either a Mac computer or to a Panasonic Full HD 1080p TV. Playback quality of unedited HD holiday video footage to TV using HDMI cable and to the computer via Firewire is superb. This excellent playback quality is also preserved in an edited iMovie Project in HDV format 57 minutes long and 48 GB in size which I made from the original 90 minutes holiday video footage.
The problems arose in trying to preserve this high quality when sharing the iMovie Project. Before I bought this HDV camcorder I had a Sony DV tape camcorder and I always used to make an archive tape from an edited DV Project by exporting the iMovie Project back to tape. However, when attempting to do the same with this latest HDV 48 GB Project the computer message informed me that it would take about 43 hours to do this. So that is out of the question!
Next I decided to make a Quicktime movie from the iMovie HDV Project using Full Quality compression via Apple Intermediate Codec (1440 x 1080). This took 12 hours to do! Computer viewing of the resultant 44 GB movie gave excellent image sharpness in still views, but for views of moving objects and also panned footage from the camera, closer viewing showed fine comb-outlining on most objects, but especially on narrow vertical objects. Is this what some of you call "jaggies" and is it an interlacing artifact? Whatever it is it was NOT in the iMovie Project but was introduced by the compression process Project->>Movie. Still worse was the jerky playback of the movie. The "IMovie Inspector" info confirmed that the movie had been made during the compression process at 25 frames per second whereas playback was in the range of only 3 to 10 fps! Previously made shorter Quicktime HD movies have not shown this jerky playback and played at 25 fps. Can anyone explain why this jerky playback occurred with the the longer 44GB movie?
Finally I made a DVD by dragging the uncompressed iMovie HD Project icon directly onto a DVD theme in iDVD and burning. The result was OK on both the computer and on TV but not great. Close viewing on the computer showed an effect which looked like a thin film of water rippling horizontally. This effect also showed in TV viewing of the DVD. Interestingly, this effect was almost eliminated when "Deinterlace" was UNCHECKED in the iDVD player viewing options.
My own conclusion is that the highest quality for archiving and playback is achieved by storing the large edited iMovie HDV PROJECT on an external hard drive and playing it back at full screen size on the Mac computer. In this way the iMovie editing functions such as the Timeline are hidden from view and cause no distraction when watching the superb HDV quality.
IS THERE A BETTER WAY?
Please comment and advise.
Vee Kay

I have a Sony HDR-HC9 1080i HDV tape camcorder and I am able to play back HD video to either a Mac computer or to a Panasonic Full HD 1080p TV. Playback quality of unedited HD holiday video footage to TV using HDMI cable and to the computer via Firewire is superb. This excellent playback quality is also preserved in an edited iMovie Project in HDV format 57 minutes long and 48 GB in size which I made from the original 90 minutes holiday video footage.
The problems arose in trying to preserve this high quality when sharing the iMovie Project. Before I bought this HDV camcorder I had a Sony DV tape camcorder and I always used to make an archive tape from an edited DV Project by exporting the iMovie Project back to tape. However, when attempting to do the same with this latest HDV 48 GB Project the computer message informed me that it would take about 43 hours to do this. So that is out of the question!
Next I decided to make a Quicktime movie from the iMovie HDV Project using Full Quality compression via Apple Intermediate Codec (1440 x 1080). This took 12 hours to do! Computer viewing of the resultant 44 GB movie gave excellent image sharpness in still views, but for views of moving objects and also panned footage from the camera, closer viewing showed fine comb-outlining on most objects, but especially on narrow vertical objects. Is this what some of you call "jaggies" and is it an interlacing artifact? Whatever it is it was NOT in the iMovie Project but was introduced by the compression process Project->>Movie. Still worse was the jerky playback of the movie. The "IMovie Inspector" info confirmed that the movie had been made during the compression process at 25 frames per second whereas playback was in the range of only 3 to 10 fps! Previously made shorter Quicktime HD movies have not shown this jerky playback and played at 25 fps. Can anyone explain why this jerky playback occurred with the the longer 44GB movie?
Finally I made a DVD by dragging the uncompressed iMovie HD Project icon directly onto a DVD theme in iDVD and burning. The result was OK on both the computer and on TV but not great. Close viewing on the computer showed an effect which looked like a thin film of water rippling horizontally. This effect also showed in TV viewing of the DVD. Interestingly, this effect was almost eliminated when "Deinterlace" was UNCHECKED in the iDVD player viewing options.
My own conclusion is that the highest quality for archiving and playback is achieved by storing the large edited iMovie HDV PROJECT on an external hard drive and playing it back at full screen size on the Mac computer. In this way the iMovie editing functions such as the Timeline are hidden from view and cause no distraction when watching the superb HDV quality.
IS THERE A BETTER WAY?
Please comment and advise.
Vee Kay

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