Operation sequence in BOM

Hi friends,
while defining Bill of material, operation sequence number is populating by default as 1, does it really matter to exactly use operation sequence number (10) from routing?
Will it be any issue from planning or mfg perspective If I setup bill of materials with operation sequence as 1 (as default) and operating sequence numbers in routing are set up as 10, 20, 30 etc... ???
Please let me know.
Regards,
kumar

Hi,
Benefits of keeping Operation sequence as 10, 20, 30 etc.
1. End user will know at which operation particular material from BOM is required
2. In case of Operation Pull, material will be consumed at appropriate operation sequence (This will not matter if you are using Assembly Pull, Push or any other Supply Type). This will impact costing.
3. You will be able to add same components against different operations
4. In case of planning, planning engine will give appropriate suggestions (if Mfg lead time is short then this will not matter)
5. You will be able to print pick slips based on operation seq. i.e. If you want to issue components required at operation 10 only then you can achieve that using this method
6. You will be able to scrap components effectively
etc.
Regards,
swapnil Mehar

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0010          1 5              0
0020          14              1
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now, in 0020 operation i have 14 yield & 1 srcap quantity & when i go for 0030
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its allowing to confirmed 15 qtys. because the plan qty is 15.but i want to minus the 1srcap qty. from 15 plan qty. & system should allowed only 14 qtys
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thsnks

Mangesh
1) you have confirmed yield qty14 nos in operation 020 , scrap Qty 1
2) Automatically in during confirmation of operation 030, in yield qty field 14 nos is coming
3) If you want to change that operation 030, yield qty into 15, system giving error message
4) you want the system to accept the 15 nos in operation 030
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hello!
PP experts
i have problem in confirmation of production order.
suppose i have production order of 15 qtys.with four operation to be confirmed (co11).
operation qty.yield srcap qty.
0010 1 5 0
0020 14 1
0030 14 0
now, in 0020 operation i have 14 yield & 1 srcap quantity & when i go for 0030
operation for confirmation it will show the default quantity of previous operation,0020 qty. i,e 14 qtys.but if i put the quantity 15 in this operation (0030)
its allowing to confirmed 15 qtys. because the plan qty is 15.but i want to minus the 1srcap qty. from 15 plan qty. & system should allowed only 14 qtys
(15-1=14) for confirmation.plus i want the flexibility of operation sequence not to checked.
i set operation sequence - error when operation sequence is not adhered to in OPK4,its minus the scrap qty. but not allowing the flexibility of operation sequence
confirmations.
please send me the setting for the above query in the confirmation (co11)
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Hi,
The same question was asked few days before by MR Gowri Sankar. The same question you are repeating
check in OPKP Production scheduling profile in the confirmation Tab
Enable the check box Adjustment quantities in order to actuals and then try
in CO11n.
Also you need to set the overdelivery tolerance as warning message in opk4.
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I don't want to check of operation sequence in order. so how can I do this? Are there any customizing for this case?
Best regards,
Hilal Çakır
email : [email protected]

Make the following changes in control key or use the control key which have this setting
In OPJ8, for a control key
Confirmation = Confirmation possible but not necessary
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Checks sub page
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We have 5 operations (10,20,30,40,50) for an material. I already assigned the value for confirmation field of control key "PP01" as "2 Confirmation required". But during production operation confirmation by using CO19, system allows user to skip the operation confirmation process without confirming the previous operation. If i change the value of operation sequence as"Error when operation sequence is not adhered to" in "parameter for operation confirmation" screen, the issue will be solved? what kind of values i want to set for this issue?
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Raja Sekaran wrote:
If i change the value of operation sequence as"Error when operation sequence is not adhered to" in "parameter for operation confirmation" screen, the issue will be solved? what kind of values i want to set for this issue?
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> * current value as "operation sequence is not checked"
>
> Thanks
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The following is the documentation
Check of operation sequence in order
Defines whether a system message is to be issued when the operation sequence is not adhered to and if so, which type of message.
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Dependencies
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Message no. KV161
Diagnosis
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The system cannot interpret the confirmed scrap quantities in cumulative and periodic settlement when it calculates the scrap.
The system cannot calculate work in process at target costs for this order because it does not recognize the relevant operations.
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Though I am seeing this msg for the 1st time - I can give you a some insight into this
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YS,
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Your requirement can be mapped by two ways,
1. System won't restrict you confirm in between operations untill & unless you sepcify the same in the define confirmation parameters.
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Waiting for Reply!

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I have just come across a requirement and would be grateful if someone can help me out in this regard.
1.     This is make to stock discrete manufacturing scenario.
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I am using inspection point 100. Still it is not restricting. The operation confirmation is done through CO11N and not feasible for users to perform it through QM module.
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Even though QEEM0011 works before valuation user is able to enter RR. The requirement is user should not enter the any RR irrespecive of valuation. If user enters RR and do not valuate it this exit may not work and eventually can allow to confirm OP30.
Edited by: Anand Rao on Aug 24, 2011 1:21 PM

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