Order Settlement concept

Please see below situation and reply me on what logic system calculated MAP.
Price control indicator is V for FERT
Order Created and Confirm and GR n GI done.
before that FG MAP WAS 8,121.91
Stock -115 MT
after making GRN OF 100 MT
new stock is 215 MT
and after settlement FG New MAP is 6,630.51
before settlement Order has shown Variance between Planned and actual is 446257.47-
As we are using Price control As V so on settlement system changes our MAP.
Plz tell me how system calculated This new MAP
plz see below details of Planned Vs Actual Comparison of order after settlement
for More Detail refer 1 st post
Order             50004423
Values in         INR          Rupee
Cost Elements                                                        Planned    Actual
   4002500 GI- CONSUMPTION PACK MATER   24,160.00    24,169.37
   4006500 GI -CONS LSA (SF)                         892,534.00   446,267.16
   4107000 CNG.IN INV. ORD.SETT.                                    341,754.47
   4117000 CHG IN INV.PROC.ORD.- (              812,191.00- 812,191.00-
   9104000 BAGGGING COST
here it is shewing that amount 341754.47 settled , can u tell me how sap calculated this amount to be settle. as told earlier we are using price control V so settled cost will go to material directly.
Plz explain me or send me some links to example

Hi Rahul
Are you aware of what you are doing?
Having V for In House Manufactured materials will ruin your inventory valuation forever.. Consider the eg below if your price control is V
1. Your moving price in mat master is 100 USD
2. You Mfr on Jan 1 @ Actual cost = 110 in Prod order and Qty = 1.
Upon GR, GR will happen @ 100 and at period end if Qty is lying in stock, 10 variance will also be inventorized
BUT, now consider this
1. Your moving price in mat master is 100 USD
2. You Mfr on Jan 1 @ Actual cost = 110 in Prod order and Qty = 1.
Upon GR, GR will happen @ 100 and variance lying is 10 in prod order
3. You Mfr on Jan 10 @ Actual cost = 110 in Prod order and Qty = 1.
Upon GR, GR will happen @ 100 and variance lying is 10 in prod order
4. On jan 15, you consume Qty 1 and qty lying in stock is 1
5. In period end, when you do settlement, following will happen
a. For prod order 1: Qty Mfd 1 and Qty lying in stock 1 - Result: variance 10 will be inventorized.
Mvg Avg price will shoot upto 110
b. For prod order 2: Qty Mfd 1 and Qty lying in stock 1 - Result: variance 10 will be inventorized.
Mvg Avg price (MAP) will shoot upto 120 (where as it should be 110)
System wont check whether the qty lying in stock pertains to prod order 1 or 2... It will simply check if the Qty of prod order matches with qty lying in stock. hence, it will keep on inventorizing variance in this case.... and your MAP will touch the sky
You should have Price control as S.. Else you will do irrevocable damage to your inventory valuation
Regards
Ajay M
Edited by: Ajay Maheshwari on Nov 13, 2010 11:43 AM

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