PCI-1424 Framegrabber

Hi,
We have several copies of PCI-1424 boards here at DRS. I was wondering if these boards will allow me to capture 32 signals and store them to the hardfile on the PC that the board is plugged into. The data is video but I don't want to display the video, I just want to store it. Also, I want the signals to be stored all the time, even during blanking intervals. I guess what I want is to get the PCI-1424 board to act like a digital aquisition card or super deep logic analyzer. Is this possible? If so, which application would be the easiest to use for this.
Thanks,
Ron

Hi Ron,
I saw that you have an email service request open with another Applications Engineer, who pointed you to this KB:What is the Fast Rearm Setting on a Digital IMAQ Device?
I will work with the other engineer to help find an answer. I also invite others to post!
Kristen H.

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How to achieve image using digital camera of USB-type interface through IMAQ PCI-1424 board.

1.Is it doable?
2.How to connect USB-type interface with IMAQ PCI-1424 board.
Thanks!

See the Developer's Zone (www.ni.com/zone) for specifics on USB (search for "USB").
"1.Is it doable?"
- In short "no".
- USB is similar to FireWire (IEEE 1394), and no framegrabber is required. We offer an IEEE 1394 IMAQ driver to interface FireWire cameras with LabVIEW & CVI.
"2.How to connect USB-type interface with IMAQ PCI-1424 board."
- You will need a USB driver for the camera. The 1424 is not required.

NI PCI-1424 used to grab TFT LCD Signals

Can the NI PCI-1424 parallel digital frame grabber be used
to capture the an image from the siganal used to drive standard TFT LCD
panels? The LCD panel that I have has 6 digital bits per RGB, a
vertical and horizontal sync, and a pixel clock at 40Mhz. I want
to use this to automate the testing of the LCD driver signals.
Currenly we have a person verify the image on the LCD screen.
Solved!
Go to Solution.

Hello niklander,
While the NI PCI-1424 card does support RS422, TTL, and LVDS standard video formats, it can only support a pixel clock rate up to 50 MHz. National Instruments does not currently manufacture any Vision hardware that supports TTL or SVDS standard video formats and pixel clock rates greater than 50 MHz. For more information on our Vision hardware products, please browse the NI Vision Hardware website.
National Instruments does, however, produce a line of high-speed LVDS Digital Instruments that can support maximum clock rates up to 200 MHz. You may want to consider one of these high-speed instruments, but please keep in mind that this high-speed product line is not designed for Vision applications. If you choose to try an NI high-speed LVDS Digital Instrument, you may face significant development challenges when architecting your application.
Best Regards,
Travis M.

How can I simultaneously acquire and display an image on the front panel using a PCI-1424

Dear friends;
I want to use PCI-1424 , and labview 5.1 to capture the image, But I can not find some functions in labview to capture, display and save the image.Can you be kind to share some examples or provide some information.
Another question is how I CAN display the image in the front panel.
thanks so much

Hello yangshang,
Thank you for contacting National Instruments! To acquire images from the 1424 you will need NI IMAQ 2.5.1 or later. This can be found HERE on our drivers download page. One thing to note is that in LabVIEW 5 we only had the ability to view an IMAQ image as a pop up window. This VI is called "IMAQ Windraw". This will pop up a separate window that will display your picture. If you need to view the picture on the front panel you can try saving the image as a file (BMP, JPG, etc) then use the LabVIEW Graphics and Sound VI's to Read a picture file in and then wire the picture to a picture control on the front panel. Let me know if you have anymore questions. Good Luck.
Regards,
Mark T
Applications Engineer | National Instruments

Signals in/out Control (0..3) and Enable (D..0) of PCI 1424

Hellow!!
How can I use the signal Control(0..3) and Enable(A..D) of PCI 1424 card. I have a DALSA 256 camera conected to my PCI 1424 and I need to generate a trigger and sense the frame enable signal to this camera.

The Control(0...3) lines of the PCI 1424 card are used to set camera attributes such as shutter speed and frame rate through pulse trains. These lines aren't accessable in software, but are configured in each digital camera's camera file (.icd). Once it is configured as an attribute, the attribute can be set in the Measurement & Automation Explorer (MAX) or in LabVIEW using the IMAQ Get/Set Camera Attribute VIs.
The Enable(A...D) lines are used to input a camera's sync signals. For instance, on a typical area scan camera, Enable A is used for the Frame Enable and Enable B for the Line Enable. These lines are also inaccessable from a programming environment.

Does NI offer a generic LabVIEW interface for the PCI-1424 frame grabber?

I am attempting to grab frames from a DuncanTech camera using a PCI-1424. The vendor's software was developed in the LabVIEW, but I only have the executable and they seem unwilling to provide the source file(s) - essentially, the vendor software only displays the images (no capture capabilities). In the interests of time, I would like to locate/purchase a generic LabVIEW image acquisition front-end, if available.

MJP;
Your PCI-1424 card should include several examples. Check the directory where the software for the camera was installed (Usually "Program Files\National Instruments\NI-IMAQ")
Also, if you have MAX (Measurement & Automation Explorer), you can access your card from there and snap images.
Other than that, I think you have to write your own code or ask somebody to do it for you.
Regards;
Enrique
www.vartortech.com

Can I input the single-ended image signal to PCI-1424?

One of my customer wants to input the single-ended image signal to our PCI-1424 instead of the differential or TTL ones, is it impossible to do that ?I've check the user's manual and it only mentioned that the input signal can be DIFF or TTL-compatible.

TTL signals are single-ended, so if the image signal follows TTL specifications, it will work with the 1424.
Regards-
Julie S
Applications Engineer
National Instruments

Can I use a PCI-1424 with a non-standard camera and build my own camera file?

I want to test a certain CCD which in non-standard and I want to setup the direct interface with it. My idea is to use a 1424 board and build the camera file.

Technically, you can build your own cable and ICD (configuration) file for your camera. It can be very difficult, though. If the CCD is fairly standard, NI might be willing to create a basic ICD file for you which you can modify to do what you want. The best way to figure out what can be done in an ICD file is to look at ICD files for other cameras.
Bruce
Bruce Ammons
Ammons Engineering

IMAQ PCI-1424 compatibility with Labview 8.6

Hi, the computer I used for image analysis work had a broken motherboard problem, and I replaced it with a new one. I removed both the harddisks and the IMAQ board from the old computer to the new one and then installed Labview 8.6, but Labview 8.6 is not compatible with the image processing software programmed using labview 5.0, so I uninstalled Labview 8.6 and re-installed Labview 6.0. I still have some problems to run the image analyzer and processing software. After I uninstalled labview software, the computer cannot start successfully, poping up error information as "Check your hard drive to make sure it is properly configured and terminated. Run CHKDSK /F to check for hard drive corruption, and then restart your computer".
Some basic information about that computer and the image acquisition system (set up in 2000) is as follows:
Windows 2000 operating system;
Labview Base Package 5.0;
advanced IMAQ vision for Labview;
IMAQ PCI-1408, IMAQ-BNC-1 cable, and Ni-IMAQ for Windows NT/95;
IMAQ-A2504-1 (1m);
Sony XC-55 1/3" Interline transfer progressive scan CCD, 659 (H) X 494 (V), C-mount with JB-77, CCXC-12P-02 and DKT503M;
Computar H1212FI 1/2" C-mount 12mm w/focus and iris (10 inch FOV at 24 Working Dist.);
Computar VM100 extension tube kit;
Graftek High Frequency Fluorescent Light 11";
Is the IMAQ hardware I am using compatible with Labview 6.0 or 8.6? Should I install also drivers for IMAQ hardware when I remove IMAQ board? Any solutions for my problems? Thanks very much in advance!!!
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Hi simpra,
Here are two links to articles that list compatability between Windows & LabVIEW and LabVIEW & IMAQ. Why do you say that the image processign software was not compatable with LV 8.6? Did a message appear? Or did it just not work? Also, are you talking about Vision Development Module, by chance?
I'm afraid I can't help with hard drive corruption if that's the case here. Were you able to get past that?
My suggestion is to upgrade to the most recent version possible.
I hope this helps!
Kristen H.

How do I change the rate that my PCI-1424 board reads my imager?

The problem that I am having is that I get a picture in MAX but I do not get a picture in LabVIEW. I can't even get any information comming in on the U8 pixel readout. Nothing seems to come in. I don't know why. I have a KLI-2113 Tri-linear image sensor. It is a line scan camera. I can see that the IMAQ board is doing something because if I don't have it on and I try to start the VI "Acquire Image and Save Pixels Without Vision.vi", I get an error, no external pixel clock message. I know that it recognizes the board. I don't know why I get an image in MAX but not in LabVIEW.
Thanks,
Brian
Attachments:
Acquire_Image_and_Save_Pixels_Without_Vision.vi ‏83 KB
kli2113.pdf ‏239 KB

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How do I set the master clock output frequency on the PCI-1424?

I want to use the master clock to generate the pixel clock to the imaging chip.

Hi,
We have tried everything to be able to set the Master Clock Frequency (please confirm pins 89 and 90 on the 100 pin connector). Everything we try including opening NI supplied camera files sets the Master clock to 40MHz.
You're code however does do something, the Master clock frequency is set to 5MHz when we open a camera file with your code included. All the attributes show up in MaX but changing the values from Max has no effect, and the frequency remains at 5MHz. We undertake an apply and snap after each change of value with no effect.
Am I missing something as the command OnBoardClock is supposed to be used to set the Master Clock Frequency, but you don't use that in your text at all. I would appreciate an explanation of the text yo
u use, if you have the time, as I cannot find any reference to how the software knows what "Frame Grabber Clock" is.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Andy

Does drivers exist for NI-IMAQ PCI-1424 (from 1998) so it can run on Win2000?

Need updated drivers - has today only Win NT/98/95 compatible drivers.
Would also like to have an evaluation copy of the IMAQ Vision Software to see that my Pulnix camera is working properly.

Download the current version of the IMAQ drivers from the NI website. They should work with all versions of Windows.
You don't need a copy of the vision software to test your Pulnix camera. The IMAQ drivers include a utility for testing your hardware. You should be able to change camera parameters and view a live image using Measurement and Automation Explorer.
Bruce
Bruce Ammons
Ammons Engineering

Missing camera attributes with the NI IMAQ for IEEE-1394 driver

I'm using an ORCA-AG and the IEEE-1394 driver. When i look at the camera attributes (either with MAX or the attribtue inquiry vi.) i can see just some of them (brightness, shutter,...). I have tried the ORCA-ER, which has the same attributes, but uses the PCI-1424 framegrabber. Using this camera i can see and modify more attributes (light mode,...). How can i modify them with the IEEE 1394 driver?
I also have another problem. When i use 1x1 binning the image must be 8bits, if is use 16bits, max cannot aquire the image (timeout error). Does anyone have the same problem?
Thank you very much.

Some non-standard attributes can be modified by directly reading and writing to the memory of the camera. Your camera manual probably has memory locations listed for the different attributes. You can get to these using the low level firewire routines. I have done it once or twice.
Bruce
Bruce Ammons
Ammons Engineering

Any known issues with using JAI-CVM10, Rev. D in Random Trigger Mode w/ PCI-1409

I am using a JAI-CVM10, Rev. D camera with a PCI-1409 framegrabber. I am having trouble getting it to work in random trigger mode. I used the example vi for JAI-CVM10, Rev. F and am able to get a picture using the internal trigger. However, I lose the video signal if my acquisition frequency is too low (3 images/sec) or I use an external trigger. Has anyone had this problem and does anyone have a solution?

hi Nan:
I have same problem with you.
can you got clear Image? or you got solution.
Could you tell me how to do.
Thanks.
Yang
[email protected]

Black image from Dalsa CL-P1-2048 with 1424

Hi all,I am using Dalsa CL-P1 2048 line scan camera with PCI 1424(LVDS). I checked with MAX and have some problems in acquiring the correct image.
In short I am getting Image only with the following setup in MAX:
1. Integration Type – Total
2. Line rate is less than 10 KHz,
3. Only with Snap & not in Grab operation
4. Only if the acquisition window height is 1.
If any of the above setup is changed then I am getting a black image. Further the image appears only in MAX and I am getting black line/image with Vision builder and LabVIEW.
I have checked for the connections and that’s correct. What could be the problem??
Does the timing of the si
gnals that NI card gives is as per the Dalsa Camera's requirement?
Can we check the signals directly with the scope??
Please reply at the earliest.
Thanks,
Nandhini

Nandhini,
I have seen exactly this behavior before. The problem turned out to be a lack of light since line scan cameras typically require very bright light. Try aiming the camera at a bright light source and see if the image changes.
Regards,
Brent R.
Applications Engineer
National Instruments

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