PCIe-6535 RLP support

Greetings!
I have an old legacy application (windows) using RLP on the NI 6533 (DIO-PCI-32HS). I am now told that this card will become obsolete and was recommeded to move to the PCIe-6535. I am trying to understand how compatible this card would be for our application, however I cannot find supporting documentation for this card in the MHDDK.
Can you tell me if/how similar are the registers between the cards, if there is available RLP documentation, if RLP is even support/recommended for this card, or what would be the preferred method for controlling the 6535? Our application only uses programmed i/o (read and write) but when we tried using visa before, it was much too slow.
Thanks,
Eugene.

AMD CPU's do not need to support PCIe Gen3.
It's the chipset that has to do it, not the CPU.
Don't know who talked to you, but you got false information.
AMD is not Intel where PCIe is (partly) build into the CPU.
I'm sorry, but your board will never support PCIe Gen3.
However this is not an issue, as PCIe Gen1 can't even be filled to the max, certainly Gen2 not even close, and Gen3 won't be needed for the next 10 years at least.
In short, who cares about PCIe Gen3 for the upcomming 10 years, I don't. (unless something very special happens, but in that case it won't be the same motherboard/CPU/memory for sure)

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(Excuse bad grammar, I'm from Germany and the English language is sometimes kind of challenging )

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