Performance in CO-PA Actual Assessment
Hi All,
I would need to improve the performance, in DB space and duration for the process of transaction KEU5. The use case is the following:
I have just one Operating Concern, account-based
Each period processing, includes 45 cycles, one for each assessment cost element, wth 4 segments sharing the 100% and fixed percentages for receiving tracing factor.
The senders: cost center group, for each company code, about 45 cost centers; cost elements, about 5 loss accounts
The receivers: Customers, about 170, for one co.code
I tried with summarization levels, but this would not solve the problem, as is more used for Information System performance, and seems to increase the DataBase volume, as adds the summarization levels volumes...
The case is that, each time we run the assessments for a company, it adds 4gb to the database, and the duration is about 22 hours. I have to decrease both cases, in first place the duration.
Thanks for your help.
Hi all, Ive been investigating, and within all the possible solutions, the best one in terms of effort, and maintaining que conceptual model is Parallel processing and the use of cycles run group.
Many thanks anyway to whom would contribute.
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The amounts shown are same as the original posting. Is there any report which can show functional area values after the assessment (KSU5) / allocation (KSV5)?
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Functional areas are being deployed for the purpose of Cost of sales accounting in FI area only. The distribution and assessment cycles which are being undertaken in Controlling will not be available in Finance tables. If you need functional area wise report in Controlling, you can run the standard report on the basis of group of cost centers which are assigned to a particular Functional area.
Trust this helps much!
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Actual assessment cycles does not work
Hello.
I have a problem with actual assessment cycles.
I use KSU5 to run one cycle and when I run it in test mode it says that there is a sender and a receiver and that there are no errors, but when I run it without test mode it says that there are no senders nor receivers and no errors appear
Which could be the problem?
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Hi there,
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Hi Guys:
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Moderator: Please, search before postingHi:
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No target costs in target cost version 0 - missing plan for ATY 1000/1301002/FOH
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No target costs in target cost version 0 - missing plan for ATY 1000/1301002/VOH
Cost center CTR 1000/1301002, cost element ZSNPL: Tracing factor for splitting is zero
Cost center CTR 1000/1301002, cost element ZAINS: Tracing factor for splitting is zero
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No target costs in target cost version 0 - missing plan for ATY 1000/1303004/FOH
No target costs in target cost version 0 - missing plan for ATY 1000/1303004/LABOR
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Cost Center in actual assessment
Hi all,
I am trying to get a report which shows for a specific cost center the actual assesment cycle in whic it is assigned in a massive way. I know I can find it via KS03 but only for a specific cost center, does anyone know a massive way to do this? I found the program RKALLOOK but this is an individual one.
Thanks a lot in advanceHi
You have two options.
(1) Use RKALLOOK and look-up one cost center at a time (I believe you are already aware about it).
(2) I am going to suggest an option at a database level. Use transaction code SE16 on table T811K. On the selection screen for this table use TABLE = CCSS, FIELD = KOSTL, FROM VALUE (Enter all the Cost Centers). One thing to remember is that this table stores cost centers as 10 characters long. So if your cost center nomenclature is shorter prefix the value with Zero. Example, cost center 12345 will be 0000012345.
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Problem in Actual assessment cycle.
Hi Team,
We are using assessment cycle to distribute the cost from utility cost center to production cost center, after cycle execution we found the cost in debit side of the production cost center with assessment cost element. And also we are using the substitution is that the cost which is coming on the assessment cost element will flow to FICO reconciliation GL. We created 5 sets of assessment cost element groups( depreciation secondary cost element group, Admin OH, Store spares, Salary wages & power & Fuel) which correspond to five 9 series reconciliation accounts.
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Ravi.Hi Ravi,
have you come up with any solution?
I have found, we can use substitution rules in New GL- CO reconciliation to fix assessment issue. In fact, we have to maintain multiple substitution rules or table to get correct P&L by primary cost element. This is pretty much possible.
My issue is, we are using COPA. COPA dont have distribution option.
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Actual Assessment Cycle - Multiple Segments for one Cost Center
Dear experts,
I've got one very important (for me) question:
I want to distribute a cost centers (primary) cost in two ways - at the same time:
First: as a fixed value to three other cost centers and
Second: the remaining cost shall be distributed to all cost centers of a cost center group
with an statistical key figure.
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If yes, how is the procedure to do so?
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COPA Assessment Cycle using KEU5 for multiple controlling areas
Hello All,
There is an organization with operations in several countries. There is a separate controlling area for each country. There is one controlling area, for instance, for Germany and another for Netherlands.
A problem is encountered while executing transaction KEU5 for multiple controlling areas in parallel. For instance, when one user from Germany executes KEU5 for an assessment cycle for Germany controlling area and at the same time another user from Netherlands tries to execute KEU5 for a cycle for NL controlling area, the user from Netherlands encounters an error message u201C'Cycle XXXX 01.02.2008 cannot be started because run group 0000 is locked'.
Apparently SAP allows assessment cycles for exactly one controlling area to be executed together. This poses a problem since the organization plans to implement SAP in several other countries (There will be one separate controlling area for each country as per the organization structure adopted by the company).
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SoumyaHi Soumya,
Did you find any text in SAP Documentation saying that "SAP does not allow cycles belonging to different controlling areas to be executed at the same time"...?
Pls find the following text from SAP Help...
Parallel Processing of Cycles of an Allocation Type
Use
Parallel processing of cycles results in considerable time savings. To process cycles of one allocation type in parallel, they must be assigned to different cycle run groups.
You define the cycle run groups in the cycle header data. You also assign cycles to the cycle run groups in the header data.
To process the cycles of a cycle run group in parallel, start the cycles one after the other, if required, in different sessions.
You are carrying out a cross-company code cost accounting and want to perform the actual assessment in the individual company codes in parallel. Create a cycle run group for each company code and assign the appropriate cycles to these groups. You can then carry out the actual assessment in the individual company codes in parallel.
When you execute a cycle, you can start a consistency check. The system checks whether you are allowed to execute the selected cycles in parallel.
Though I didn't come across such requirement, I feel, my earlier suggestion will work out...
Srikanth Munnaluri -
Assessment: number range problem
Hi Fi-CO gurus's,
my problem is the following: I try to perform an assessment (Tx code 3KE5), but I receive an error message in the "display EC-PCA: Actual assessment basic list " screen:
Document number: range not found
And further:
Document number: range not found
Message no. GA703
Diagnosis
An error occurred during document number determination. No range was found for number range object GL_LOCAL, sub-object 0010.
System Response
No document number was determined. Results could not be updated.
Procedure
Inform the person in charge of number ranges.
Could anyone help me.
Thanks in advance.
Ric.Hi Seth,
I checked out table NRIV and found entry....
But in GB02 I have the following problem:
when I try to create an interval for the group (group maintenance) I choose "Act. document from direct posting with GB0" ...
There is no displayed number range and when I try to create it, it is not possible because there is already an existing number range, but it can't activate it...
An it takes all the available range (from 000000000 to 9999999999)
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Ric -
Number range error in Assessment cycle in CO-PA
Dear All,
During performing "Actual Assessment cycle in CO-PA" , system gives the error message
"An error occurred when the SAP System attempted to determine the document number. No interval was found for number range object RK_BELEG, sub-object 1000".
When I checked in KEN1 (Document ranges for actual posting) & also checked in
KANK, it is defined
Can some one can explain me how to re-solve the same.
Rgds
SMK GaneshHi,
Please, check transaction KANK, under menu path of SPRO:
Controlling -> General Controlling -> Organization ->
Maintain number ranges for controlling documents
Choose Overview and find the corresponding CO area.
You will see that there are several business transactions not assigned
to any number range. One of them should be KSPA Assessment to CO-PA.
Please, assign this business transaction (and the ones required for other processes) to a number range.
Then, run again KEU5.
If the above does not help then check if problem is that you use too many receiver fields in copa cycle.
The number range object is derived from the co-area and if you are using more than 15 single value receiver fields the system wont consider the settings "behind" the co-area.
regards
Waman -
What is the difference between define Assessment and define distribution
What is the difference between define Assessment(S_ALR_87005742) and define distribution(S_ALR_87005757)
Hi,
Assessment and distribution of relevant overhead costs is performed at period closing (actual data) or plan closing (plan data). This is usually done directly in CO. It is then reflected in the data in Profit Center Accounting.If you have a service profit center or allocation profit center in your profit center hierarchy, you may need to assess or Distribute costs again in Profit center Accounting.
In Profit Center Accounting, the allocation function allows you to allocate the following plan and actual data.
-- Costs (assessment and/or distribution)
-- Revenues and sales deductions (assessment and/or distribution)
-- Balance sheet items (distribution)
Assessment is made using a special cost/revenue element. In distribution, the original cost/revenue element/account number is retained.
Assesment,you set rules in the form of cycles for allocating primary and secondary costs in plan.
Activities in assesment are
Create an plan assessment cycle by proceeding as follows:
1. Enter a name for the cycle
2. Enter a validity timeframe for the cycle
3. Maintain the header data for the cycle by entering the following:
a) In which currencies the costs should be charged
b) Whether consumption quantities should be charged
c) Whether negative tracing factors should be scaled
d) Whether the cycle should be processed iteratively
e) In which version the cycle is valid
4. Create segments for the cycle that contain the following information:
a) The sender cost element to be distributed
b) Criteria to distribute the costs among the receivers
c) Sender objects
d) Receiver objects
Distribution ,you create rules in the form of cycle for the settlement of primary costs on a cost center.
Activities in distribution are
Create a plan distribution cycle by proceeding as follows:
1. Determine a name for the cycle.
2. Determine a validity period for the cycle.
3. Maintain the header data for the cycle by entering the following.
a) Which currencies are to be used in the allocations
b) Whether consumption is to be allocated or not
c) Whether negative tracing factors are scaled or not
d) Whether cycle processing is to be iterative
e) In which version the allocation is to take place
4. Define cycle segments in which you store the following information.
a) Sender cost element to be distributed
b) Criteria for cost distribution to the receiver
c) Sender objects
d) Receiver objects
regards,
Santosh kumar
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