PPV for subcontracting materials mystery- posting to a different cost element?

Dear All:
Are there any OBYC (FI-MM) account determination settings to have PPV incurred due to Subcontract (SC) POs post to a different account than regular PPV? If not, is there any distinguishing characteristic at the line item level for SC PPV posting to report it in contrast with regular PPV line item?
Or am I looking at creating a substitution rule to make this happen?
Looking forward to some insights!

Hi Althea and Szymon: Thank you for your inputs. The subcontract material in our system is setup as F/30 (Procurement Type, Special Procurement) and as a HALB (semi-finished goods) in the same plant as other semi finished goods. So, no opportunity to segregate their PPV (posted via MT 101) account via valuation modifier in OBYC.
BSV transaction is used to store the offsetting account during inventory receipt during 101. So, in essence here's an example of accounting doc during GR :
Description       Amount   Transaction     Material      Quantity
FG Inv (B/S)        100          BSX              FG123            +1
GR/IR (B/S)         -15          WRX            FG123            -1
PPV (P/L)            -25          PRD            FG123             -1
SFG Cons (P/L)   -75          BSV            FG123              -1
Subc Fee (P/L)     15           FRL            FG123             +1
Inv SFG (B/S)       -12          BSX           SFG456           -1
SFG Cons (P/L)    12         GBB-VBO    SFG456           +1
So BSV+PRD = BSX (FG)
I am looking to see if I can get the $25 favorable PPV posted to some other account via OBYC. Right now it's getting posted through PRD and getting mixed up with PPV for external purchases.
Thanks for your inputs.

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