PRICING DETERMINATION WITHOUT CONDITION RECORD

HI ALL,
can anybody explain me when you creating one purchase order if there no condition record for this material (for an example info record) how the price can automatically picked up and sit into the net price field.
What is big-pricing procedure (RM0000)?.
PLEASE EXPLAIN ME IN DETAILS WITH A PROPER EXAMPLE.

Hi
There is a condition type P101 to adopt the price from the Material master. Apart from this the Price is determined based on the info update indicator, this will creat an info recoprd automatically, if you see the inforecord then the price will not be present as this info record has not been manully created.
RM0000 is the Standard Pricing procedure given by SAP.
Determination of Purchase Price (Example)
Purchasing creates a PO for 100 swivel chairs at $250 each, to be supplied by vendor Miller Co. No outline purchase agreement exists with this vendor. The agreed condition (discount of $10 granted on each chair purchased) is stored in an info record. No general price stipulations apply.
The system carries out the following price determination process:
Assignment of price calculation schema:
RM0000
Search for condition records belonging to the condition types listed in the calculation schema:
The system searches only for condition records belonging to condition types that are marked in the schema as non-manual.
Condition type PB00
Determination of access sequence
0002
Accesses within access sequence 0002
Accessing of condition table 068 (plant-specific agreement item) is not carried out
Accessing of 016 (contract item) is not carried out.
Table 017 (info record) is accessed and the condition record is found.
Condition records belonging to the other condition types are then sought.
In the example, no further condition records are found because condition type RB00 (discount) is a supplementary condition belonging to condition type PB00 and thus has no access sequence of its own.
The system then suggests a price of $240 per chair in the purchase order. The buyer can then enter further conditions (covering delivery costs, for example).
Hope this clears your doubts.
Please go through the link for more details
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/EN/75/ee1fa755c811d189900000e8322d00/frameset.htm
Thanks & Regards
Kishore

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Message was edited by: Aby Jacob Emmanuel

As I know, thats just a warning message(if its a std one).
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