Process order Doubt
Hi , can anyone explain the following dates in COR3 Process order General data Tab?
Basic dates--Scheduled--
Confirmed
Finish-----09/07/2008 24:00:00-09/07/2008 24:00:00----09/05/2008
Start--09/02/2008 00:00:0009/02/2008 00:00:00--08/28/2008
Release--09/02/2008--
08/28/2008
Regards,
Paartha
Edited by: Parthu Birampalli on Sep 8, 2008 7:29 PM
Hi,
Confirmed :- Specifies when the material was actually produced (that is, delivered to stock).This date is set automatically by the system.
Confirmed Rel :-Date on which the order was released.
Scheduled :-System determine this date using lead time scheduling that contain the timing from routing. Lead time scheduling is performed using the routing. In this case, it calculates the start and finish dates and times of the operations
and schedule the order.
Basic dates :-
Date on which the required quantity of the material is available (that is, the requirements date of the material).
If, on order creation, a planned order exists for the production order/ process order, the basic dates are copied from the planned order.
If no planned order exists on order creation, you must specify at least one basic date.
The scheduling type determines the basic dates that you must specify.
Hope clear to you.
Regards,
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Use
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Reprocessing Confirmations :
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Reprocessing
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Order confirmation
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Time event confirmation
Activity confirmation
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Display error
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Check confirmation
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Delete confirmation
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Delete a line
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Rerunning cost determination
Starting a New Costing Run
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Opportunity to correct failed goods movements
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Hi PP Experts.
Is it possible to take goods movement in TECO process order directly.
is there any other possibility for take goods movements in TECO process order?Hi,
After TECO you can't do Goods Movements. For carrying out , GOOds Movements you need to revoke TECO in process order as following :
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Revert if any doubt.
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