Procument through Internal Order

Hi
We got few real internal orders (overhead) where it got a budget value and a settlement rule to be settled to a cost center
When raising PO, we use F (Internal Order) as the account assignment adn the double entry is passed to debiting as asset account and crediting GRIR account. But during month ends when the internal orders are settled, it does not settle because its a balance sheet account. Account assignment A is used because we wanted the asset to be assertized at the time of procument
What I need to know is that the process that we have use is correct or not.?? Is it correct to use an internal order at the time of the PO OR do we need to use a WBS at the time of the PO
Following account assignment categories are used
A (Asset), F (Internal Order), Q (WBS)
Thanks
Trishan

Hi,
You are trying to control the budget through the Internal Order and at the same time capitalize (create the Asset) during the GR posting. Then why the Internal Order is having a settlement rule for settling to Cost Center?
Create the PO with account assignment to Internal Order (Posting to a Cost Element and not a Balance Sheet Account). Then during the month-end, the IO should be settled to FXA (Fixed Asset). The settlement rule of the IO should point to FXA and not Cost Center. WBS can also be used instead of these real Internal Orders.
Thanks,

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Kindly tell me during Purchase order creation through internal order (Order related PO) whreas budget is maintained against that internal order if the PO amount is exceede than budgeted amount it gives warning / error messge that budget is exceeded. Same internal order or any other internal order which has budget against that internal order if I go to F-02 tcode and pass entry with cost center and internal order(budget is given) both it does not give any warning message if budget value exceeded i.e, F-02 posted amount is greater than budgetd amount. It goes to next screen which should not do. Kindly tell me the reason why it is not being blocked and goes to next screen or if there is any configuration please guide me.
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Hi Eli,
Now I have observed during saving the record in F-02 it gives warning message as per tolerance limit set in config area. Actually I want in F-02 screen when you put Document date, posting date, type, period, company code, currency, posting key(debit), GL account, next 2nd screen you mention amount, cost center, internal order(budget is maintained), posting key(credit) and press enter for next 3rd screen to put credit amount. While you go from 2nd screen to 3rd screen then warning / error message should give if amount is exceeded than budgeted amount which I am getting during saving. Is it possible to make any check between two screens ????
Beside I would ask you here tolerance limit is set as 95%, 100% and 102%. During PO creation through internal order it gives error message when amount is exceeded than 102% as budget is exceeded. If the amount is between 95% to 99% it does not give warning message which should do. But from posting in F-02 screen it gives proper messge in all levels since 95 % to 99% and 101% to 102%.
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Goods Receipt through internal order with movement type 262

Dear Friends,
some of our users making entries like the following
1. created Internal Order
2. Creating Reservation with movement type 262 ( which not issued material through movemnt type 261)
3. Stock updated
i just want to confirm, we not issued like X material, even stock not available, we can make entries like the above, To receive X material from Internal order/ subcontractor using movement type 262.
kindly advice please if it is wrong then tell me the process.
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HI,
if we receive material from subcontractor what process we can do...
can you explain your issue exactly what problem you have at your end .
I think you want to take subcontracting material inside which is not in sap system now,it may finished material or it may component.If you don't want to show this material as at vendor now
then you can try movement type 501 or through physical inventory t-code MI10
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I have created an internal order and all the expenses incurred for the asst under construction are being booked at this internal order.
While settling the internal order the system always picks up the month end date as the settlement date and hence the balance of internal Order is getting transferred to AUC on month end date (say31.07.2007).
So,
The date of transfer of balance from internal order to AUC is month end date that is 31.07.2007.
But in Actuality the AUC got complited before month end (say 15..07.2007) and the Asset was put to use on 15.07.2007.
Now the system is not allowing to settle the AUC to Main Asset as on 15.07.2007 as the AUC was not existence on that date. <b>Error:</b> Posting not possible (Value date earlier than capitalization date).
I am able to transfer the balance in AUC to Main Assets as on 31.07.2007 but in this case my client is loosing the depreciation element on this asset from 15.07.2007 to 30.07.2007. Is this the functional deficit in SAP? Is there any way through which depreciation can be availed from 15.07.2007?
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You can settle the AUC value in one period and posting can be made in another period. in the same you can give the different asset value date in KO88 screen. The only limitation is this possible only if the fiscal year is same.
Give the asset value date as 15.07.2007 in KO88
Hope this will work
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Budgeting through Internal Order - Issues in Purchase Requisition

Hi All,
I have posted the issue in ERP Matyerial Management Forum also, but since this has a lot to do with CO-Internal Order, so posting the same here.
Objective: We want to activate Commitment Update and budgeting for Capital purchases thrugh Internal Order. Budgeting is done for IO.
For the budgeting to get activated in Purchase requisition, Internal Order tagged to the Asset should be present/seen in the PR.
For PR with Account assignment Cat as 'A', I am not able to see the Internal order (mapped to the asset) in PR. The field 'Internal Order' in PR is coming BLANK despite the fact that the Asset used in the PR has been tagged to a valid Internal Order (of the Object Class - Investment, with Commitment update activated).
What other setting is missing?
Pls note the following:
1) Account assignment cat 'A' has been set to DISPLAY CO/PP order ( T code - OME9)
Issue is that this field in the PR is NOT getting populated at all.
2) Commitment management, Availability Control have also been activated in the system
. Internal Order status management has also been checked.
Any help in this respect will be highly appreciated
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Gayathri

Hi Gayatri,
when you are saying"budgeting for Capital purchases thrugh Internal Order",how do you use account assignment category "A"?
if your requirement is budgeting for capital purchases through IO then you should use account assignment category in respective PR.Automatically it will control budget/commitment wrt those internal orders.
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Material reservation through Internal Order

We have internal budget scenario and activated availability control. However, at the time of material reservation, eventhough we are giving an Order as account assignment, budget is not checked. Is it the standard behaviour ?

Hi Nikitha ,
System is working as expected and designed..
Reservations do not generate any commitments in the R/3 system. Commitments are exclusively generated from purchase orders, purchase requisitions, funds commitments and funds reservations.
As resevation is something you have booked for your future requirement, but not consumed.For budget anyway when you put actaul cost at that time system is cheking your budget.... that should be the correct approach...
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PO raised through Internal order for Asset Issue

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while Raising PO for Asset through Order I am facing the following Issue
G/L account 10700051 cannot be used (please correct)
Message no. ME045
Diagnosis
Comparison of the field selection strings from the G/L account 10700051 and the account assignment category F reveals that there is an incompatible combination of field selections for the field selection group 'Cost center'.
The G/L account field selection is stored in table T004F; that for the account assignment is stored in table T162K.
Procedure
Please enter a correct G/L account.
Solution I already tried
1. OKB9
2. OBYC: GBB-- VBR -- GL account
Waiting for helpful answer
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SAPUSER5

Hi
Go to OME9 - Account Assgn Catg F
Go to OBC4 and check the Field Status group of this GL account
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I want to capture the cost of asset under construction through internal order (controlling) not throgh Investment Measure module. How i can do this.

Hi
It is the same flow as explained by AP above
If Investment management module is active, then on settlement i believe the AUC asset is automatically generated. Therefore you have to define an asset master and then include this asset in the settlement rule of the IO. Thus on settlement the cost in the IO would flow to the asset
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Internal order posting vs cost center

HI,
I have a requirement like this; in our company we have allowed the posting to be made only through internal orders no
direct cost center postings are allowed. Is there any report to carry out a comparison between internal order posting and cost center postings? I just want to check the transaction which directly posted to cost center instead of internal order.
please help.
thanks
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gayani

Hi,
Do you want to trace postings which were done only on cost centres without I/O? You can go to KSB1 and select the line where Auxiliary account assignment is blank - this will mean that these lines were posted only to cost centre.
Also, if your I/O are real one, you can select in KSB1 postigns with '4' value type, which will mean that the posting on cost centre is real and not statistical; therefore, no postings on I/O happened.
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Recurring posting with Internal Order

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I want to create a service purchase order for 1 year and down payment is made for entire amount. How can i monthly book the expenses automatically. I need to post a service entry sheet and invoice automatically for every month. is it possible through internal order.
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Thanks but it will help in automatic posting of service entry,invoice every month.
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Budget Process (Linked the maintenance Order into Internal Order) in EAM

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Scenario for Repair & Maintenance with only MM & FICO module live w.e.f. 2007 (PM not live)
Process Managed thru Internal Order (Order Type: RPMT)
Budget managed through Investment Management (IM); Budget is directly entered against the IO using transaction IM52
Scenario for Repair & Maintenance with only MM, FICO & PM module live (PM went live in 2010)
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1.)     In EAM process one can plan/procure material and External Services only when the Maintenance Order is created & released but practically it has to be planned long before any Maintenance Activity (Maintenance Order to be linked with the estimate so that PO can be created against the estimate).
2.)     The no. of Maintenance Order generated in EAM Module is very large as Maintenance order is created for almost each and every maintenance activity. It is cumbersome to allocate the budget to each and every maintenance order. There should be a single estimate for maintenance activity (as in MM module) and that should be linked to maintenance order so that the actual cost of Indent/Service Entry Sheet can be deducted automatically from the estimate (Maintenance Order is to be linked with estimate).
3.)      While doing return Indent the cost of return material is not being added to the maintenance order automatically (Maintenance Order is to be linked with estimate).
4.)      If Material & External Services not planned in the maintenance order (estimate), the user must be able to do that through Internal Order (estimate), hence the Internal Order must be link to the Maintenance Order. They should able to record the planned & actual cost in the maintenance Order.
Process followed:
1.) Created Internal Order in KO01 for Repair & Maintenance Order Type
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2.) Created PM order and assigned Internal order against Settlement Order in tab
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3.) Released both orders and issue the Material for particular Operation and then
     determine the Cost for material .After that performed MIGO for consumption of
     materials.
4.) Settled the PM order in KO88.
     Settlement process was successfully saved.
Problem faced:
After posting the goods movement (against each Maintenance Order) and settlement of the maintenance order against IO, we still find the budget assigned to the IO is not consumed/deducted.
1. Actual cost of maintenance is not reflected in the internal order
    immediately. We have to run cost settlement (t-code KO88) for the
    maintenance order each time the actual cost is incurred in the maintenance order.
2. Also in the case of return indent, the value of returned material is not directly
    added to the available budget of internal order.
3. When the material is issued from store through the reservation generated by
    maintenance order, system does not check for budget in the internal
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4. It must not be allowed to create reservation from the internal order of order type
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5. In case of external service in the maintenance order, the unit of
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     of measure or set the unit of measure u201CJOBu201D).
6.) When the material is issued from the store through reservation generated in
     maintenance order, system does not check for budget in Internal Order
     (estimate)/Maintenance Order while issuing material from store.
Thanks & Regards
Deepak Soni

Hi,
1. Actual cost of maintenance is not reflected in the internal order
immediately. We have to run cost settlement (t-code KO88) for the
maintenance order each time the actual cost is incurred in the maintenance order.
As per the standard system budgeting is done against the actual cost only. And until you settle your order the actual cost from
maint order are not getting transfered to IO. Once they are transfered system is checking for the budget.
2. Also in the case of return indent, the value of returned material is not directly added to the available budget of internal order.
This is similar to first point, when you return goods there will be negative cost on the order, this has to be settled until that system will not compare the IO budget with maintenance order actual cost.
3. When the material is issued from store through the reservation generated by maintenance order, system does not check for budget in the internal order/maintenance order while issuing material from the store.
The budget you have assigned is at IO, how can system will check the budget while issueing goods for maintenance order. We may have to develop or use some user exit over here. Which will trigger checking of budget from the settlement receiver IO for that maintenance order.
I think you may have to go for development. These are my observations from my experience.
Regards,
NNR

PO should not exceed Internal Order Value ( Check Required )

Hi experts,
Ideally PO should not be made for more value than the sanctioned amount raised through Internal Order no ( KO01).
But we find that users are creating PO for more value than the sannctioned value in internal order no.
Check is required . Pl. suggest how it can achieved.
Regards,
( Rajneesh Gulati )

Hi,
In SPRO
Controlling>Internal Orders>Budgeting and Availability Control-->Maintain Budget Profile
Maintain Budget profile and assign to the order type.(Controlling>Internal Orders>Order Master Data-->Define Order Types)
Maintain Tolerances in below path.
Controlling>Internal Orders>Budgeting and Availability Control-->Define Tolerance Limits for Availability Control
You can maintain the tolerance limits with which in PO, you can give error or warning message when the value exceeds.
Regards
Edited by: Varaghamurthy Chakravarthy Kannan on Sep 2, 2009 11:14 AM
Edited by: Varaghamurthy Chakravarthy Kannan on Sep 2, 2009 11:16 AM

Capital cash flow report thru internal order

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Our client needs report inrespect of procurement of capital assets through internal order.(We use both statistical and real orders)The report is to be consists of 1.sanction number(Internal order KO01),2.sanction amount maintained in the order KO22 and the 3.commitments i.e.PO releases and 4.Cash out flow against the sanctions and committments.Iam trying the check the relevant tables but iam not getting the sequence of table in which i can extrat the data.can anybody having idea or developed this type of developement plse reply soon.
thanks in advance
RAJA

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As you said that standard report for budget/actul/committements available.But our requirment is we have budgets in combination of assets class,dept,cost center and project and have sepatare snction ref number for each of those.we want to give report sanction number wise and the report should consists of previous year sanction amount,current year sanction,committments i.e.PO releases,committments against the previous year and current year,cash out flow against the committments i.e with reference to sanction number what is actul cash out flow.pls let me know if you know ligic to be build while development.
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How to charge OH on Internal order

Hi gurus,
can any body tell me what is the procedure to charge the Overhead on Internal Order? also want to know how can i charge OH through Internal order during product costing?
point will be rewarded...........
than'x
dhananjay

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In controlling, overhead will calculate in production order level, before creation of production orders, we have to create costing variant in that variant we define overhead for production and material and also how much % will calculate and that amount will credited in cost center.
Internal orders for short term jobs.
let me know other than this.
please assign points.
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Internal Order Settlment Error: First settle items from previous year in

Dear Gurus,
I tried to work out a solution to settle AUC to G/L expense account through internal order. I tested in QA system it works well. But in PRD, it gave me an error message "First settle items from previous year in the previous year".
The process is the following: IO-> AUC-> FXA or G/L. Becaue user has done some expense transaction wrongly to the AUC so he wants to post the balances in AUC to GL expense account.
I have set the final settlement to GL as optional and config some pop up message as warning message and implement a sap notes to fulfill this request.
I guess my problem is:
I tested in QA in senario the IO was created in 2009 and I tried to settle it to a GL in 2010. So it shows no problem. However in PRD the IO was created in 2008 and the final settlement year is 2010 or 2011 so it shows the error which was not shown in QA.
The error message only shows "First settle items from previous year in the previous year". No more detail to me.
Have you ever run into this problem before? Please help to throw some lights on it.
Emma

Hi,
Thanks. I am considering to updated the AW624 according to the notes.
The detailed message is:
Message Text
First settle items from the previous year in the previous year.
Technical data
Message type _____________ E (Error)
Message Class ______________AW (AuC message)
Message number ______________624
Message variable 1 __________2009
Message variable 2 __________2003359632
Message variable 3 _001
Message variable _______
Message Attributes
Level of detail____ 2(Level of detail 2)
Problem class_______
Sort criterion____
Number________1
Environ.information
Item___________ 001

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