Production of mango in process industry

Hi,
We have one scenario ,company is in process industry,they are manufacturing MANGO pulp,babana powder.
The problem is that company itself having mango trees and banana trees and they are using these mangos and bananas for their finish product means mango and banana used as a raw material.
So,client producing raw material as wll as finish product,
I want to know how production of mango and banana will be mapped in SAP right from planning to production .
Note that these are seasonal fruits,so how they will plan beacuse water and fertilisers will consume through out period and production will happen in season only.
Regards,
vidyasagar

Hi
See in your case, the mango fruit become mango pulb after some operations and the addition of some thing correct.
so it have the bom and the routing obviously.
in your bom MANGO PULP - the components will be MANGO + WATER+FERTILISER
you can add the water and fertiliser in planning or you can maintained as the comsumable materials.
so as for you plan. the MANGO is the only material you need to plan to procure.since this is the season one. i think they will preserve it for the full year porduction.
so you need to two planning for MANGO and the final product MANGO PULP.
for MANGO , you need to plan such a way that how much you need to preserve to produce the final mangao pulp.
for MANGO PULP, you need to do the forecst as per the previous year sale. you can use the SEASION forecasrt menthod.
revert back if any clearfication recuired.
Thanks & Regards
RAJ

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Production of mango in processing industry

Hi,
We have one scenario ,company is in process industry,they are manufacturing MANGO pulp,babana powder.
The problem is that company itself having mango trees and banana trees and they are using these mangos and bananas for their finish product means mango and banana used as a raw material.
So,client producing raw material as wll as finish product,
I want to know how production of mango and banana will be mapped in SAP right from planning to production .
Note that these are seasonal fruits,so how they will plan beacuse water and fertilisers will consume through out period and production will happen in season only.
Regards,
vidyasagar

Dear,
How about maintain seperate plant for manufacture part. And Process as separate plant.
By this you can capture manufacturing expenses like all maintenance, cropping, fertilization expenses at PLANT 1.
And rest at PLANT 2.
By this PLANT1 end can get a final price for the mangoes and can supply to PLANT2 as raw material. The rest processing can capture in PLANT2.
The source for the answer from my side is WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
The client process the miniral water and he owns the source of water supply like wells. Client supply through pipeline the raw material water (a distance of 60-70 kilometers range) to the processing plant. At source point client have maintenance for motors, maintenance of wells and lots of engineering and HR expenses. At final in plant he process, purification and some other process to make final product. Suggested with 2 plants and client agreed for this.
What about this same process with your client??
Regards,
Syed Hussain.

Difference Between Production Industry & Process Industry

Hi Freinds,
              Hi have a query. What is the major difference between Production Industry & Process Industry?
I will give you a following example. Please carefully read it.
               Take a example of TATA Motors. We all know it produces automobiles. So we will consider it as a Production Industry. But at the same time it uses the Paint to paint the vehicles is produced by it only. So can we call it as a Process Industry? If yes please explain it.
                I will award deserving points accordingly for every reply.
Thanks & Regards
Saeed Arif

production:- conversion / processing the raw materials to finished products.
differen type of industry:
job type of industry:- this is of mainly MAKE TO ORDER TYPE , suiting the particular customer requirments , after getting the order only you start doing the production
eg:- Turbine mfg by BHEL, Aircrafts and ship buildings etc.
so here your planning and costs change one order.
Repetative mfg or Batch tpe production: here the products wll be made in batches as lots eg 2000no or 5000nos qty as batches ,
here the planning and costing etc will differ from one batches to another.
eg: Automobile , apperal industry. this can be produced by strategies MAKE TO STOCK or by MAKE TO ORDER,
PROCESS INDUSTRY OR CONTINOUS TYPE OF PRODUCTIONS:
in this type of industry the Process remains same (constant) and procucts may with slight variation in composition, in this type of industy almost every thing is mechanised . this type of indstry will have LINE LAY OUT/PRODUCT LAYOUT
ie at one entry all the materials go in one line and processed and at the end of the line you will be getting finished products. the complete line will be controlled by automated sensors by using sopostigated sensors. the only problem here is that in LINE if one macine /station is have break down the complete production will comes to halt as one machine/station output is going to be input for oher staion/machine.
eg: cement, paints , food and beverages etc.
you can seggregate indstry type by materials or by the type of layout(ie mfg line)
so now coming to your doubt : TATA - AUTOMOBILES following hybrid type of laty out ie mfg of automobiles is functional layout , where there is flexibilty of planning , from paint sections on wards it follows line layout ..
so you have to call it is as product industry , intern which have line layout for cetain operations , which pertains to process industry...

Process flow in Process industry

Hi PP Gurus,
I want to have an idea about flow of process order in process industry with the details how the cost are captured per day if the process order continues for many days.
Pl guide me in the process
Thanks in advance
Shanmugam Balamurugan

Important Things Involved:
O10C --- Control Recepie Destination (Clubbing of recurring PICs)
O12C --- Process Instruction Category (PICs) -- Clubbing of Process Instruction Chars to be displayed
as per requirement on PI Sheet.
O13C --- Process Message Category --- After we have recorded the Enteries in PI sheet, If we need to update some ABAP/ Z table or We need to Trigger some program with those values then mapping for that is done here.
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Resource:CRC1
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Production Version:C223
PI Characteristics:Ct04/O25C
PP Process Flow:Cr01>Co53>co60/co55/co64/co67-->CO57
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Use of QM in Process Industry

Hi,
QM Expert ,I am from automobile sector, I want to know the detail requrement of SAP QM in process industry,as per my knowedge only shelf life scenario is different other than all processes of QM ,please give the detail Scenario of relating QM in process industry in detail
Regards
Aditya

hi
QM in process industry can have a significant difference from Normal Automobile or Production system.
It can be
1.Batch manegment can form significant part of Process Industry.
2.Recurring inspection is also huge part of Process Industry
3.Inspection points along with sample drawing procedure in Inspection planning can be used in process industry.
4.Shelf life material as you mensioned is significant.-->stability study
5.Instead of Production orders Process order are used in Process industry.
These are more or less can be observed in any process industry.
Also Refer link
www.sdm-c.com/files/Barcelona_Mazliach_SAP_QM.ppt
Regards
Sujit S Gujar

Scenario about process industry

1) please tell me steps or scenario for process industry?
2) what is the difference between descrete manufacturing & process industry?

Hi,
Process industry where the production process is set and its continuous or batch production
e.g.consumer goods
discrete is like industry having production as per order only
e.g.machine manufacturer
You have certain industry specific scenarios in SAP to map these
Hope its clear to you
BR
Diwkar

Process industry master data creation

Hi,
In discrete manufacturing if we have alternate bom or routings then it can be used through production version. But in process industry it seems bom has to be created first and bom has to be assigned in production version and through production version master recipe has to be created for that.
In process industry let me know which master data has to be created first. Kindly clear my doubt.
Regards / US

Hi,
In process industry you can create BOM in both ways....
Method 1: Create BOM through CS01.... after this create master recipe... then you create Production version for the combination of BOM and recipe... same like in discrete....
Method 2: while creating master recipe you can create BOM from there during this process system will ask you for production version...
Now It is up to you to decide which one is flexible to use....
Thanks
Kumar

Process Industry- How to map the Scenario?

Dear Gurus,
The is a Process Industry, Chemical Manufacturing Unit, which does the following sequence of Operation to get the Semi finished material.
1) Acid, TC, and Catalyst are 3 Raw materials
2) Acid, TC and catalyst after being put into reactors, they Undergo 2 Phases. Crude and Distillation
At crude phase, Crude is Produced. But they dont want to do confirmation of crude.
At Distillation stage, Main Fraction(MF), a semi-finsihed material is Produced
But at the distillation Phase, 2 more, Products are produced in conjugation to MF.
These 2 Products are Lower Fraction(LF) and Residue.
When these LF and Residue are produced, they again put into reactor and some qty of TC is added to achieve MF which again produces some portion of LF and Residue. And these cycle goes on.
They keep these process continuing.
In short: MF is derived in 2 ways
Acid+TC+ Catalyst=MF
LF+Residue+TC=MF
Please help me in mapping below Points comprehensively.( They want one Order Type for 2 phases.)
1) How BOM will be made of LF and residue if I treat them as Co-Product??? Or some other technique in SAP can map it?
2) What is the Step by step Costing configuration of Co-Products. I searched lot but unable to find the proper settlement rule of Co-Products.
Thanks
Shailesh Mishra

Dear Rahul,
As I understand that Co-Products cannot be subjected to movt type 261 and same i have tested in system. So, concept of Co-Product is not applicable here either with Recursive BOM application.
The solution which we have found here is that Client will make one of BOM of Acid+TC+ Catalyst
which will give MF. The concept of Reverse Calculation will be applied. Daily product of LF and Residue will be extrapolated at the Month end. And the LF and residue Quantity will be tracked not from system. Only during month end, LF and Residue Physical Inventory will be taken and it will be treated as Raw materials So, in the Running Process Order 262 will be done of So-called LF and residue. Stock Up(+)
And same Qty of LF and residue will be subjected to 261(Stock Down-) in the next month New Order in form of Raw material.
So cycle of 261 and 262 of LF and residue in form of Raw materials will be Perpetual and settlement of orders will also be sacrosanct.
Best regards
Shailesh

Process Industry

Dear All,
I'm New To Process Industry,piz help me what are important thinks I need understand,?
Important TABLES IN process Industry?any study material have in the sense share me.
process flow
thanks for advance

Hi
It is a very generic question please try to do the google you will get lot many threads regarding the process industry.i am attaching some of thread for your reference
Order tables :
AUFK Process order headers
AFKO Order header data PP orders
AFPO Order item
AFVC Order operations
AFVV Quantities/dates/values in the operation
AFVU User fields of the operation
AFFL Work order sequence
AFFH PRT assignment data for the work order(routing)
JSTO Status profile
JEST Object status
AFRU Order completion confirmations
Process Order operation tabel :
PLAS Task list - selection of operations/activities
PLFH Task list - production resources/tools
PLFL Task list - sequences
SAP PPPI Process Industry Master Recipe - SAPs'WORD - We SAP For Your Cause
Production Planning - Process Industries (PP-PI) (SAP Library - Production Planning - Process Industries (PP-PI))
Thanks & Regards
Sandeep Kumar Praharaj

Average Costing in Process Industry

One of the Client requires average Costing in his Process Industry But Oracle doesnt support Average Costing in Proces Industry in R12.1.3 but supports average Costing only in Discreet Manufacturing.Please help or guide some work around immediately so that the Client could be convinced to go for Standard Costing and than for closing stock valuation some work around could be done.
Thanks & Regards in advance
V K Sharma

Important Things Involved:
O10C --- Control Recepie Destination (Clubbing of recurring PICs)
O12C --- Process Instruction Category (PICs) -- Clubbing of Process Instruction Chars to be displayed
as per requirement on PI Sheet.
O13C --- Process Message Category --- After we have recorded the Enteries in PI sheet, If we need to update some ABAP/ Z table or We need to Trigger some program with those values then mapping for that is done here.
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Production Version:C223
PI Characteristics:Ct04/O25C
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SOP:MC84>MC81>mc76>mc75>md63
Demand Management: MD61>MD02>MD04-->Cor1
MRP Run: MD02,MD04

Industry specific verticle for Process Industry

We have implemented MySAP ECC 6.00 in our company. Our company produces BOPP Film. We have implemented 6 modules FI,CO,PP,MM,SD and QM. In PP modules we stuck because of width. I want to ask whether there is any industry specific solution for Process Industry?
Sudhir

Hi Sandeep,
Thanks for your prompt reply.
I will explain you in detail.
Our Company was started in 1980 to manufacture Bi-axially Oriented Polypropylene Films (BOPP) for the first time in India. Since inception we have maintained market leadership in the Indian market and also Continues to be largest BOPP film exporter from the Country. .
In 1996 we have implemented AVALON erp. The implementor was TCS Hyderabad. Presently also it is running very fine but due to technical cnstraints, we decided to switch over to SAP.
We are in process of implemening MySAP ECC6.00. Implementor is WIPRO. As our company is a Continious process industry we expect to implent the PPPI module.
As far as our process is concerned first stage to produce a JUMBO roll. The width may be 1000 mm. Further these Jumbo rolls are slitted as per requirement from customer. Here the width part plays a major roll. The requirement from customer is in any width right from 64 mm to 500 MM. Let us say our product code is xyz with various width. Our main requirement is widthwise stock and widthwise costing. We do not want to incorporate the width in itemcode. How can this problem will be solved?
Waiting for a feseable solution.
Thanks Sudhir

Raw material planning for process industry.

I am going to implement SAP R/3 in process industry where i get raw material from farmers.I have to accept all raw material from surrounding villages because it's a government rule.So its necessary that all farmers should produce well quality yield. For that they must follow standard procedure to grow their crop.Is it possible to plan this using SAP PP?
How to face this type of sceanrieo?

Hi kiran Ghule,
With the functions of the Quality Management (QM) module, you can implement it.
The QM application component supports tasks associated with quality planning, quality inspection and quality control. In addition, it controls the creation of quality certificates you can do this
Explore your self in this module if any problem then come back.
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How to treat the accounting entries for the Process industry?

Hi SAP Gurus,
I am working with the Process industry client. Here one raw material goes with chain of process. In one plant half of the process will carried out and the rest of the half process would be carried in another plant. the entire accounting entry would be as follow.
Plat A
While Purchasing the RAW material the account entries are
Raw material Inventory A a/c     Dr
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While issuing material to process order
Consumption a/c      Dr
     To Raw material A inventory   A/c      Cr
While the FG receipt into the stock
FG B inventory      a/c     Dr
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To FG B inventory      a/c     Cr
Plant B
Goods Receipt at Plant B
FG B inventory a/c      Dr
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While issuing Goods to process order
Consumption a/c      Dr
     To FG B inventory a/c     Cr
While Final FG receipt
FG C inventory a/c Dr
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Advance thanks for the help.
Regards,
Deva

Hi Ravi,
I have discussed with my user. The business requirement is they want the plant wise Balancesheet and Financial statement. If i do the stock transfer from one plant to another it is very difficult for me to get the balance sheet. What we are planning is while transfering one plant to another the FG invertory credit agaist Intra transfer account (One P&L account) then in the receiving end the intra transfer a/c debit to FG inventory so that i can get the trial balance.
I will get back to you once i get the solution for this. Let me know if you have some idea on this.
Thank you.
Deva.

How to see daily production qty against a Process order

Hi Gurus,
I have a requirement where user wants to see Actual daily production quantities against a Process order. The way client, I am working for, works is, They create One process order on 1st day of every month for one quantity. And then keep adding against that order only:-
For eg. They craete a Process order say 1234 for 50,000.00Kg on April 1.
And produce 5000 on 1 april, then ACtual GR qty will be shown as 5000
Next day they produce 2000, then Actul GR quantity will be shown as 7000
Next day they produce 3000, then Actual GR qty will be 13000....and so on..till end of the month.
Where can I see these individual quantities?
Please advise.
Regards
Prashant

Hi Prashanth,
In SAP A material Document will be genarated For Everey goods movement, By taking the Mat doc NO for the day for that production order you can track the GI and GR quantites.
in CO03 we can get the material document no, by selecting GOTO---> DOCUMENTED GOODS MOVEMENT.
THE material document contains all the details related to the goods movemet like date,quantity,movement type.
the configuration required to genarate the material documents. in OPL8 order type dependent parameters under IMPLEMENTATION tab you have to tick the documented goods movements.
Thanks&Regards,
Venkat.

Rework process for Customer returns in process Industry.

Hi Gurus,
We are working in a process Industry. The process is here we do
Sales order
MRP run
Process order
Process order confirmation
delivery
billing.
Now the scenario is, once delivery done, customer returns the goods for rework.
To complete this process, how can i go ahead and whether this will reflect in the PP module or not & how can we interrelate the SD with PP in this regard.
Note: we dont have the CS module now
Thanks.
Thyagarajan.
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thyagarajan krishnamurthy

Hi amith,
for return process you have to follow RE document type and LR for pgr
while coming to excise you should have to do J1IEX without purchase order the the values of excise will be reversed .
it should resolve your issue
bvdv

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