Scenario about process industry

1) please tell me steps or scenario for process industry?
2) what is the difference between descrete manufacturing & process industry?

Hi,
Process industry where the production process is set and its continuous or batch production
e.g.consumer goods
discrete is like industry having production as per order only
e.g.machine manufacturer
You have certain industry specific scenarios in SAP to map these
Hope its clear to you
BR
Diwkar

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Process Industry- How to map the Scenario?

Dear Gurus,
The is a Process Industry, Chemical Manufacturing Unit, which does the following sequence of Operation to get the Semi finished material.
1) Acid, TC, and Catalyst are 3 Raw materials
2) Acid, TC and catalyst after being put into reactors, they Undergo 2 Phases. Crude and Distillation
At crude phase, Crude is Produced. But they dont want to do confirmation of crude.
At Distillation stage, Main Fraction(MF), a semi-finsihed material is Produced
But at the distillation Phase, 2 more, Products are produced in conjugation to MF.
These 2 Products are Lower Fraction(LF) and Residue.
When these LF and Residue are produced, they again put into reactor and some qty of TC is added to achieve MF which again produces some portion of LF and Residue. And these cycle goes on.
They keep these process continuing.
In short: MF is derived in 2 ways
Acid+TC+ Catalyst=MF
LF+Residue+TC=MF
Please help me in mapping below Points comprehensively.( They want one Order Type for 2 phases.)
1) How BOM will be made of LF and residue if I treat them as Co-Product??? Or some other technique in SAP can map it?
2) What is the Step by step Costing configuration of Co-Products. I searched lot but unable to find the proper settlement rule of Co-Products.
Thanks
Shailesh Mishra

Dear Rahul,
As I understand that Co-Products cannot be subjected to movt type 261 and same i have tested in system. So, concept of Co-Product is not applicable here either with Recursive BOM application.
The solution which we have found here is that Client will make one of BOM of Acid+TC+ Catalyst
which will give MF. The concept of Reverse Calculation will be applied. Daily product of LF and Residue will be extrapolated at the Month end. And the LF and residue Quantity will be tracked not from system. Only during month end, LF and Residue Physical Inventory will be taken and it will be treated as Raw materials So, in the Running Process Order 262 will be done of So-called LF and residue. Stock Up(+)
And same Qty of LF and residue will be subjected to 261(Stock Down-) in the next month New Order in form of Raw material.
So cycle of 261 and 262 of LF and residue in form of Raw materials will be Perpetual and settlement of orders will also be sacrosanct.
Best regards
Shailesh

Production of mango in processing industry

Hi,
We have one scenario ,company is in process industry,they are manufacturing MANGO pulp,babana powder.
The problem is that company itself having mango trees and banana trees and they are using these mangos and bananas for their finish product means mango and banana used as a raw material.
So,client producing raw material as wll as finish product,
I want to know how production of mango and banana will be mapped in SAP right from planning to production .
Note that these are seasonal fruits,so how they will plan beacuse water and fertilisers will consume through out period and production will happen in season only.
Regards,
vidyasagar

Dear,
How about maintain seperate plant for manufacture part. And Process as separate plant.
By this you can capture manufacturing expenses like all maintenance, cropping, fertilization expenses at PLANT 1.
And rest at PLANT 2.
By this PLANT1 end can get a final price for the mangoes and can supply to PLANT2 as raw material. The rest processing can capture in PLANT2.
The source for the answer from my side is WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
The client process the miniral water and he owns the source of water supply like wells. Client supply through pipeline the raw material water (a distance of 60-70 kilometers range) to the processing plant. At source point client have maintenance for motors, maintenance of wells and lots of engineering and HR expenses. At final in plant he process, purification and some other process to make final product. Suggested with 2 plants and client agreed for this.
What about this same process with your client??
Regards,
Syed Hussain.

Process flow in Process industry

Hi PP Gurus,
I want to have an idea about flow of process order in process industry with the details how the cost are captured per day if the process order continues for many days.
Pl guide me in the process
Thanks in advance
Shanmugam Balamurugan

Important Things Involved:
O10C --- Control Recepie Destination (Clubbing of recurring PICs)
O12C --- Process Instruction Category (PICs) -- Clubbing of Process Instruction Chars to be displayed
as per requirement on PI Sheet.
O13C --- Process Message Category --- After we have recorded the Enteries in PI sheet, If we need to update some ABAP/ Z table or We need to Trigger some program with those values then mapping for that is done here.
BOM:CS01
Resource:CRC1
Master Receipe:C201
Production Version:C223
PI Characteristics:Ct04/O25C
PP Process Flow:Cr01>Co53>co60/co55/co64/co67-->CO57
SOP:MC84>MC81>mc76>mc75>md63
Demand Management: MD61>MD02>MD04-->Cor1
MRP Run: MD02,MD04

Use of QM in Process Industry

Hi,
QM Expert ,I am from automobile sector, I want to know the detail requrement of SAP QM in process industry,as per my knowedge only shelf life scenario is different other than all processes of QM ,please give the detail Scenario of relating QM in process industry in detail
Regards
Aditya

hi
QM in process industry can have a significant difference from Normal Automobile or Production system.
It can be
1.Batch manegment can form significant part of Process Industry.
2.Recurring inspection is also huge part of Process Industry
3.Inspection points along with sample drawing procedure in Inspection planning can be used in process industry.
4.Shelf life material as you mensioned is significant.-->stability study
5.Instead of Production orders Process order are used in Process industry.
These are more or less can be observed in any process industry.
Also Refer link
www.sdm-c.com/files/Barcelona_Mazliach_SAP_QM.ppt
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Sujit S Gujar

Abap to mass create business scenarios, business process, and process steps

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Really struggling to figure out how to mass create "folders" in the business blue print structure. Periodically we will need to add in a new business scenario with everythign associated with it. the business has already written up all the information in excel sheets and we would like to avoid having to manually enter this data every time.. These scenarios and process etc are project specifc.
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I was searching how to use the program RS_SOLAR_IMPORT_STRUCTURE for mass create business scenarios in Solar01.
I saw you was in the forums about this. Do you got to do?
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Production of mango in process industry

Hi,
We have one scenario ,company is in process industry,they are manufacturing MANGO pulp,babana powder.
The problem is that company itself having mango trees and banana trees and they are using these mangos and bananas for their finish product means mango and banana used as a raw material.
So,client producing raw material as wll as finish product,
I want to know how production of mango and banana will be mapped in SAP right from planning to production .
Note that these are seasonal fruits,so how they will plan beacuse water and fertilisers will consume through out period and production will happen in season only.
Regards,
vidyasagar

Hi
See in your case, the mango fruit become mango pulb after some operations and the addition of some thing correct.
so it have the bom and the routing obviously.
in your bom MANGO PULP - the components will be MANGO + WATER+FERTILISER
you can add the water and fertiliser in planning or you can maintained as the comsumable materials.
so as for you plan. the MANGO is the only material you need to plan to procure.since this is the season one. i think they will preserve it for the full year porduction.
so you need to two planning for MANGO and the final product MANGO PULP.
for MANGO , you need to plan such a way that how much you need to preserve to produce the final mangao pulp.
for MANGO PULP, you need to do the forecst as per the previous year sale. you can use the SEASION forecasrt menthod.
revert back if any clearfication recuired.
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RAJ

Hi about process codes

Can any body tell me about process codes, What exactly the significance of Process codes in the outbound and inbound system?
What is the use of process code in ALE/IDOC scenario? and where will u create the process codes.?

Hi,
Just check the tcodes we41- outbound and we42-inbound. You can find out all related process codes . when you select and look this will be having related FM.
Kindly go thro this link, u will get idea abt process codes.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/dc/6b805a43d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/dc/6b804d43d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/frameset.htm
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Padmam.

Rework process for Customer returns in process Industry.

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We are working in a process Industry. The process is here we do
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MRP run
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delivery
billing.
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To complete this process, how can i go ahead and whether this will reflect in the PP module or not & how can we interrelate the SD with PP in this regard.
Note: we dont have the CS module now
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Thyagarajan.
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thyagarajan krishnamurthy

Hi amith,
for return process you have to follow RE document type and LR for pgr
while coming to excise you should have to do J1IEX without purchase order the the values of excise will be reversed .
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CTM planning for process industry

Hi,
We are taking CTM planning run in a process industry scenario where we are having continuous processing. But when we do CTM planning CTM creates PP/DS planned order to meet the delivery date of orders and for some orders their are unscheduled gaps between operation due to non availability of next resource.
Is it possible to create orders in CTM without any unscheduled gaps between the operations as is the case in case of orders created using PP/DS?
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Sanjog Mishrikotkar

Hi kiran Ghule,
With the functions of the Quality Management (QM) module, you can implement it.
The QM application component supports tasks associated with quality planning, quality inspection and quality control. In addition, it controls the creation of quality certificates you can do this
Explore your self in this module if any problem then come back.
Regards
R.Brahmankar

Pricing in Process industry

Dear All,
In our scenario for Job work in textile processing industry we need to maintain the price (PR00). This price normally maintained is Rs.7.25/mtr and Rs.60/kg, therefore conversion relation is (1mtr = 120 g), hence the average weight required is 120g.
There are two scenarios for example:-
Normally if the average weight is 120 g then the customer is charged by 7.25 / mtr. If the average weight changes then,
1.     Now if the dispatch material is 1mtr =140 g the billing will be on Kg basis which is approx
                Rs.8.40 / Mtr.
2.     Now if the dispatch material is 1mtr = 110 g the billing will be 7.25 /mtr.
How to MAP this in SAP pricing.
RamananPV

Dear PV,
         Create Master dta for the three materials like this.
1.Material 1Average weight 120g
2.Material 2 1mtr=140g
3.Material 3 1mtr=110g
Take sales unit as mtr (M)
Maitain the price for the above materials based on the Unit meter (M) inthe transaction VK11 with the key combination Materail.
According to that if you enter Material 1 in the sales order as 100 mtrs it will pick up the price relating to that from the condition record which is belongs to the Material 1
I hope it will help you
Regards,
Murali.

New to MM/ Want to Configure Process Industry

hello expert
i am new in this field (MM), working in automobile industry but want to configure process industry.
can any one give me configuration doc of any process industry with detail.
my e mail id is [email protected]
thanks in advance
ashwani tripathi

you are right sir,
actually i am configuring mm module for refinery industry on my practice server .and i do not have much idea of this kind of industry .
right now , i am facing problem during automatic account determination.
i really do not know how to start .
can you tell me about the concept .from where i have to start.
thanks
ashwani

Oracle BPM Java API - getting informations about process activities

Hi
I have a problem with Oracle BPM Java API, can someone help me?
I have a business process project deployed in Oracle SOA Suite and I need to get some informations of my process programatically via Java API.
Basically I need to get informations about process activities and the corresponding human tasks referenced by these activities.
I'm able to get the HumanTasks of my Business Catalog and also to get the Activities of my Process, but the relationship between them is null.
I did some tests, below a piece of code of my test:
IBPMServiceClient bpmServiceClient = BPMConnectionUtil.getBPMServiceClient();
IProcessMetadataService processMetadataService = bpmServiceClient.getProcessMetadataService();
IProcessModelService processModelService = bpmServiceClient.getProcessModelService();
List<ProcessMetadataSummary> processMetadataSummaryList =
processMetadataService.listProcessMetadataSummary(BPMConnectionUtil.getBPMContext(), "processNameOrId to find", "processName", "ASC");
if (processMetadataSummaryList == null || processMetadataSummaryList.size() == 0)
return;
ProcessMetadataSummary processMetadataSummary = null;
for (ProcessMetadataSummary summary: processMetadataSummaryList) {
if (summary.isIsDefaultRevision()) {
processMetadataSummary = summary;
break;
if (processMetadataSummary == null)
processMetadataSummary = processMetadataSummaryList.get(0);
IProcessModelPackage pack = processModelService.getProcessModel(BPMConnectionUtil.getBPMContext(), processMetadataSummary.getCompositeDN(), processMetadataSummary.getProcessName());
oracle.bpm.project.model.processes.Process process = pack.getProcessModel();
Sequence<UserTask> activities = process.getActivities(UserTask.class);
for (UserTask activity: activities) {
System.out.println("Human Task: " +activity.getHumanTask()); // <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<---------------------------- here is the problem. the human task is null, but my activity have a task associated
There is another way to get this information?
Thank's

Hi
I have a problem with Oracle BPM Java API, can someone help me?
I have a business process project deployed in Oracle SOA Suite and I need to get some informations of my process programatically via Java API.
Basically I need to get informations about process activities and the corresponding human tasks referenced by these activities.
I'm able to get the HumanTasks of my Business Catalog and also to get the Activities of my Process, but the relationship between them is null.
I did some tests, below a piece of code of my test:
IBPMServiceClient bpmServiceClient = BPMConnectionUtil.getBPMServiceClient();
IProcessMetadataService processMetadataService = bpmServiceClient.getProcessMetadataService();
IProcessModelService processModelService = bpmServiceClient.getProcessModelService();
List<ProcessMetadataSummary> processMetadataSummaryList =
processMetadataService.listProcessMetadataSummary(BPMConnectionUtil.getBPMContext(), "processNameOrId to find", "processName", "ASC");
if (processMetadataSummaryList == null || processMetadataSummaryList.size() == 0)
return;
ProcessMetadataSummary processMetadataSummary = null;
for (ProcessMetadataSummary summary: processMetadataSummaryList) {
if (summary.isIsDefaultRevision()) {
processMetadataSummary = summary;
break;
if (processMetadataSummary == null)
processMetadataSummary = processMetadataSummaryList.get(0);
IProcessModelPackage pack = processModelService.getProcessModel(BPMConnectionUtil.getBPMContext(), processMetadataSummary.getCompositeDN(), processMetadataSummary.getProcessName());
oracle.bpm.project.model.processes.Process process = pack.getProcessModel();
Sequence<UserTask> activities = process.getActivities(UserTask.class);
for (UserTask activity: activities) {
System.out.println("Human Task: " +activity.getHumanTask()); // <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<---------------------------- here is the problem. the human task is null, but my activity have a task associated
There is another way to get this information?
Thank's

Raw material planning for process industry.

I am going to implement SAP R/3 in process industry where i get raw material from farmers.I have to accept all raw material from surrounding villages because it's a government rule.So its necessary that all farmers should produce well quality yield. For that they must follow standard procedure to grow their crop.Is it possible to plan this using SAP PP?
How to face this type of sceanrieo?

Hi kiran Ghule,
With the functions of the Quality Management (QM) module, you can implement it.
The QM application component supports tasks associated with quality planning, quality inspection and quality control. In addition, it controls the creation of quality certificates you can do this
Explore your self in this module if any problem then come back.
Regards
R.Brahmankar

Process industry master data creation

Hi,
In discrete manufacturing if we have alternate bom or routings then it can be used through production version. But in process industry it seems bom has to be created first and bom has to be assigned in production version and through production version master recipe has to be created for that.
In process industry let me know which master data has to be created first. Kindly clear my doubt.
Regards / US

Hi,
In process industry you can create BOM in both ways....
Method 1: Create BOM through CS01.... after this create master recipe... then you create Production version for the combination of BOM and recipe... same like in discrete....
Method 2: while creating master recipe you can create BOM from there during this process system will ask you for production version...
Now It is up to you to decide which one is flexible to use....
Thanks
Kumar

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