Profit center derivation in sales order with New GL

Dear Gurus,
We are using the New GL, so EC-PCA is not activated.
We would like to set-up a substitution rule in order to derive the profit center in the sales order and customer invoice (we don't want the profit center to always be derived from the costing view of the material master data).
I created a substitution rule with transaction 0KEM and assigned it to the controlling area with active status"3" (Other transactions + cross-company (orders + billing doc.)).
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be called when I create a sales order.
Can you please confirm gthat 0KEM is the transaction to use even when we use New GL without EC-PCA?
Where should I put a breakpoint in order to trace the call to the substitution rule?
Thanks a lot in advance for your help.
Regards,
Simo

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Dear Neeraj,
It is possible to achieve this by using Profit Center Substitution in Sales Orders but as per your requirement Customer country is not available in Table fields but wherein Plant is available. Please find the below example process
The profit center is entered in the material master in the Sales: general/plant view.
When sales order is created the profit center in the material master will be populated in the sales order line item profit center field, which is present in the account assignment tab. This is the standard SAP behaviour.
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Enter the code say ZZ01 and description of the substitution rule and click on save.
Select the new substitution rule i.e. ZZ01 and click on the Step icon. System will give a pop up window in which the second option (profit center) has to be selected. Press enter or click on the green OK icon.
After pressing enter, another pop up box will be seen. Here, select the first option i.e. constant value and press enter.
You will be taken to the Step 001 - Overview screen. Enter the description for the Step and then click on Pre-requisites on the left side.
In the next screen, double click on EC-PCA: Substitution in Sales Order under List of Structures. In the next screen, select the item based on which the substitution has to be done. For eg: Division in item.
After you double click on Division in item, you will find the Division in item in the box above. After this click on "=" button which is next to the table fields. You will now find "=" next to Division in item in the box above.
Now click on constant button. System will give a pop up box in which enter the division number on which the substitution rule has to be built for eg. Division 10 i.e. whenever the division at item level is equal to 10 the profit center has to be replaced. After entering the value, press enter. After this you will find in the box above Division in itm = '10'.
Click on Substitutions on the left hand side. On the right hand side enter the profit center number which has to be populated (i.e. the profit center that has to be substituted with) in the sales order line item if the pre-requisite is met. Check the check box next to profit center also.
Click on the save icon. System will give a message save and generation successfully completed. The substitution rule is now created.
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Dear GURUS,
Please help in getting answer for following question.
How to make a field profit center mandatory in sales order?
With Regards
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There are 2 ways to make profit center mandatory
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Hi All,
Please let me know :
How the user exit is used to populate the Profit center field in the Sales order?
Please gurus answer as quickly as possible as I require this urgently.

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To derive the correct profit center in the Sales Order, you customize in 0KEM.
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