Profit center wise P&L and Balance Sheet for 12 segments as per AS-17

Hi Experts,
I am woking in ECC 6.0. My Client has 12 Segments. 10 Cost Centers. They want segment wise P&L and Balance Sheet. Pl advise how to map..The options are :-
1. Use segment reporting - if i define 12 segments = 12 profit centers, then the problem is one to one assignments of profit centers to cost centers as there are only 10 cost centers and profit centers will be 12.
2. Should i go with Business ?
3. Will the Profit Center approach help ? then again one to one mapping to cost centers is not possible...
Pls help...its urgent
Regards
Pyare

Hello
This is posible if you use the New GL functionality in ECC 6.0
The New GL functionality works on the totals table FAGLFLEXT instead of the GLT0 which was used in the Classic GL. The Segment field is a standard field in the table FAGLFLEXT.
For creating segement wise financial statements,
1. You have to first define the segments in the enterprise structure
2. Link the PC to the segments (you have field for segment in the PC master data)
3. The standard report (S_PL0_86000028) will generate the segment financial statements for a FSV.
Thanks,
Anvesimo

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