ProRes to Blu-Ray H.264, then Preview problems in Encore CS5

Hello all,
I've been taking 90 minute or so ProRes 422 QuickTimes (29.97 interlaced) into Media Encoder CS 5 and creating H.264 Blu-Ray files for use in Encore CS5. I'm using the 1080i maximum quality setting and adjusting it so that target bitrate is 25mbps and max is 30. Also doing 2-pass VBR.
The issue I'm having is when I import these files into Encore CS5 and then preview them in a timeline they are artifacting all over the place. They look like my cable signal when it breaks up, except through the entire program. I've re-transcoded in the Media Encoder and am having the same issue. I've also tried transcoding within Encore (which is really the same thing), and still it persists. I haven't made a BD-R yet to check that and I know the preview in Encore CS 5 is very buggy. But I'm wondering -- has anyone run into this? Is this just a preview problem, or is there something actually wrong with the transcodes?
Also, if anyone has a tip for where I can open the *.m4v files coming out of Media Encoder so that I can check them somewhere other than in Encore that would be awesome. VLC player doesn't work, neither does QuickTime. Thanks everyone!
Best,
JD

Jeff,
Thanks for the response. Here are the answers to your questions:
Some obvious but necessary checks:
Are you authoring in a Blu-ray project and not a DVD project? YES, it is a 1080i 29.97 Blu-Ray project.
Are you checking the transcode status column for Blu-ray and not DVD? Definitely looking at the transcode status for Blu-Ray, and not DVD.
If all is OK with those checks, then please check the audio:
Are the files multiplexed? If so, try elementary streams.
Are you using elementary streams? If so, try multiplexed.
On these notes -- what is a good way for me to know if the transcoded files are multiplexed or elementary? The interesting thing is that when I bring in the M4V and WAV files into Encore from what AME creates, the WAV file does NOT require transcoding, but the video file (M4V) does.
Regarding the preview issue I was having it's worth noting that when I checked back in preferences the playback quality was still set to DRAFT, as if when I switched it to HIGH it just didn't take (and I tried this more than once). I put it to HIGH again today and this time it seems it took, as preview playback quality is good again. Just seems strange to me that Encore has a mind of it's own sometimes with certain things.
I'm really more concerned with the transcoding at this point. I did a project a couple weeks back where I just bit the bullet and transcoded the M4V again in Encore to author the ISO file, and several chapters of the program came out stuttering on the disc. The original Quicktime source is fine and the preview playback on it was fine during those chapters. I can't seem to find a throughline for these problems -- just seems to happen every now and then and can't control it.
I authored a 53 minute 1080p 23.98 disc in early January that worked beautifully. Everything was great - no problems.

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SOLVED
Ok, this is my workflow. I hope it works also for you...
PS : It also solve my other problem : FCPX --> ProRessHQ --> Compressor 4 --> Blu-ray .264 of 1.69GB
Step 1 : Export to ProRes422HQ
Export your project to a ProRes422HQ .mov file. You can do this also via Compressor. This still works.
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Download the x264 program via this link : http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/x264/binaries/macosx-x86-64/
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x264-r2453-ea0ca51 --bitrate 22000 --fake-interlaced --tune film --bluray-compat --fps 25 --force-cfr --bframes 3 --ref 4 --muxer raw --no-weightb --weightp 0 --b-pyramid none --vbv-maxrate 22000 --vbv-bufsize 22000 --level 4.1 --profile high --keyint 25 --min-keyint 1 --slices 4 --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 2 -oOutPutFile.264 --input-res 1920x1080 InputFile_ProRes422HQ.mov
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x264 PROBD
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Video
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H.264 AVC Elementary Stream (.264)
Audio
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Linear PCM (.wav)
Advanced Audio Codec (.aac)
Multiplexer
MPEG-4 Video (.m4v)
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Quicktime (.mov)
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720x576x50i (4:3/16:9)
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Bit rate
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1Kbps – 300Mbps
Audio codec
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Linear PCM
Advanced Audio Codec
Audio channels
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Mono, Stereo, 5.1
Audio bit depth
8, 16, 24, 32bit (LPCM)
8, 16, 24, 32bit (LPCM)
Audio bit rate
n/a
56 – 320kbps (AAC)
Sampling rate
8, 16, 32, 44.1, 48, 96KHz
8, 16, 32, 44.1, 48, 96KHz

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First, I exported a 1920x1080 timeline in PP CS5 from my new Canon 60D camera as a Blu-ray mp2 file. I get the same problem in Encore that all of you are having which is that Encore says the m2v file need transcoding (untranscoded). I already transcoded the file in media encoder from PP so this should not need to be transcoded again in Encre. PP say that there is an update to media encoder that I can update. Maybe this will fix the issue?
I also would appreciate some help getting stated with transcode setting for Blu-ray. One thing using the canon 60D do I need to convert the mov file first to Apple Proeres format before editing in PP?
Next, what's the best bitrate setting to use to export/ encode the file. I used the default settings in media encoder which I think was 15MBIt. This does not play correctly in my Blu-ray player. So I have to find a better sweetspot. I have read that 20 or 25mbps is better?
And is it true that i should use the Blu-ray h.264 setting instead of Blu-ray mpeg2? I think the quality of Mpeg2 is really good.
One last setting issue in Encore. There is a setting either to output an ISO image file in either BR-R or BR-RE. What's the difference? I just outputted a BR-R image file and wrote it to a BR-RE disk and it played just fine so I was wondering what the differences in the settings? I would like to be able to output one image file and use it for both -RE and -R disks.
Oh, from my camera I just copied the mov file to a folder on my HDD and then I just imported the mov files into PP as a timeline. The Video does play a little slow but not that slow on my PC.
Thanks for the help,
John Gerard

Set the vbr to 1 pass or use the H264 codec.
Best is to set the mbps same as the footage.
The default settings work just fine.

HOW LONG TO BURN BLU RAY VIA COMPRESSOR 3.5?

Does anybody know the ballpaerk figure as to how long a 115 minute FCP 7 project exported to self contained movie and brought into Compressor 3.5 to burn a blu ray disk on an external blu ray writer will take? Is Roxio Toast any faster? Thanks much for your help.

iamfrustrated wrote:
This is getting more interesting by the minute. I have now set the project up as two blu ray DVD's -each around 72 minutes. When I go to 'send to compressor' from fcp 7, if I select HD DVD 90 minutes (assume that is the correct method as there is no 'blu ray' option) and then set Job Action to Blu Ray, I get the message with that nice little yellow triangle warning stating: "Cannot create Blu Ray disc as no target that is either mpeg 2 video elementary stream or H.264 stream". The fcp project in compressor is dolby digital prof. 2.0 and HD H.264 6.75 mbps.
I'm obviously doing something wrong here(?)
The HD DVD presets create files that are usable in DVD Studio Pro for making HD DVD's - not for authoring Blu-ray discs.
Here's what you need to do:
Create a new preset from "H.264 for Blu-ray".
Leave the video format and frame rate set to automatic, but lower the bitrate down to 20 Mbps with a max of 25 Mbps.
Then add a Dolby Digital Audio track as a second target.
Under job action set to create blu-ray disc but save it to the hard drive rather than trying to burn directly. (I know this an annoying extra step but there's been issues reporting with burning Blu-ray/AVCHD discs over 10 minutes in length.)
This will get it onto a single disc and 20 Mbps h.264 will still look pretty good.

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