Quota between inhouse Manufactured & external procured materials in APO

Hello All,
Scenario is like this:
I have semi-finished material. Suppose it is 'AX'. Now this 'AX' material I am manufacturing & procuring from external sources also. Material 'X' is APO material(MRP Type='X0'). Now I transferred MM scheduling agreement of same part in APO also through Integration Model, to get schedule lines as well as manufacturing orders after Heuristic run. When I checked in APO, MM scheduling agreement was transferred to APO but the Quota which I maintained in R/3 in MEQ1(% between in-house production & external procurement) was not in APO. Now in this case if I do the Heuristic run I got only Planned Orders(manufacturing orders), not any schedule lines against the MM Sch. Agreement. Now at this moment I was able to convert any planned order into MM Schedule line.
After this I created the quota in APO itself. After creating the quota I was able to get the planned orders as well as MM schedule lines based on maintained quota.
Regarding the above scenario I have some doubts. Please answer:
1. Is it a correct practice, what i did ?
2. I was very confused that when we maintains each Master Data of APO materials in R/3 why we need to create the same quota in APO also.
3. Is there any way to transfer this quota from R/3 to APO ? If yes please tell me the steps. This will save a lot of my stuff.
Thanks in Advance !

Hi,
1. Yes, as per the scenario mentioned and since the planning is taking place in APO, quota is needed to be maintained in APO itself.
2. This is because planning needs to input like proporational planning to to find out the right sources using quota and transportation lanes. But its master data intensive.
3. In other way, I would see no need of maintaining the quota in R3, instead you maintain the quota only on APO. (if I understand requirement correctly).
there is one way, you can avoid quota maintenance in APO. Here you need to use CIF user exit (APO outbound, C5) to modify the the procurement proposals of APO while getting transferred frm APO to R3 based on the quota maintained in the R3 side. This seems to be bit complex.
Hope this helps
Regards
Venkat DR

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