Ranking in RH8 Search

Is it possible to remove ranking from Search? If not, can you change Search so that when you search by title instead of by rank that it sorts alphabetically across ALL pages rather than by those appearing on each page?

No options built in that I am aware of and no workrounds seen. There are posts about changing the column width so in theory you could hide the ranking column but that would not prevent it functioning.
Take a look at the ZoomSearch article on my site. Would that provide what you want?
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Exclude Master Pages From RH8 Search

Is there a way to exclude master pages from RH8 searches? There is no option in the Master Page properties as with topics.
What I did: I created a Master Page to add a "Download PDF version" link to the PDF version of the Help, in the same way that RJ Jacquez did in his "Web 2.0 Documentation using Adobe AIR and RoboHelp 8 OnDemand Recording" tutorial. The difference is that Jacquez's sample used an image as the link, while I used text.
Problem: "Download PDF version" is prepended to all search results (in the context line).
The obvious workaround is to replace the text with an image representation instead. But I thought I would ask the question about master pages and searches anyway.

Hi Jason
I think you misunderstood me. Note that Master Pages may be used in different ways.
They may be used as a starting off point for a topic. You create the topic, and much like a Word template, the Master Page partially builds the topic by having certain elements already in place. From there forward, you customize the topic to your needs. Subsequent changes to the Master Page have zero effect on any topics created from them.
They may also be used to configure a Header and a Footer. You then associate the Master Page with the Header, Footer or both to several or all topics to give the associated topics the Header or Footer information from the Master Page. In this case, subsequent changes to the Header or Footer in the Master Page DO actually appear in all associated topics.
I was talking about the latter option. I wasn't suggesting you move things into the HTML Head area of the topic.
Cheers... Rick
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How to force topics to be ranked higher in Search?

I am using RH9. I have read the articles about how Search results are ranked:
In order, it is based on the search word appearing in:
The topic title (as in Topic Properties and not to be confused with the Topic Heading)
The topic keywords (Increasing the frequency of a word as a keyword will not help as it will be considered only once.)
The topic headings in descending order so the word appearing in H1 will take precedence over the word appearing in H2
The body of the topic. Each occurrence of a word in topic is summed to calculate overall weighting of a word in a topic.
However this does not seem to be the case for me. I have a topic called "Supported Chart Types" that I would like ranked 1st when searching on "chart". However, it is ranked 22nd despite the fact that the word "chart" appears in the topic title and 18 times in the body (and is a keyword). The #1 ranked topic for this search term is "chart layer" which has the term appearing once in the topic title and only 6 times in the body (and has no keywords). Does anyone know why this is happening? Does anyone know how we can influence the ranking so that topics we decide are more important rank at the top?

Thanks Colum
Forgot to mention that. Indeed you would also want to ensure you include an Index keyword pointing to the desired topic.
Another way to increase rank and stack the deck to favor a specific topic would be to have some hidden text in the topic formatted as Heading 1. Heading 1 terms are assigned more weight than basic text or lower headings.
The bottom line is that this is somewhat of a "Black Art" and there are many different ways to manipulate the data to achieve specific outcomes.
Cheers... Rick

Exclude Baggage Files From RH8 Search

Hi...
I have noticed that you can exclude pages from appearing in
the RH8 search (Topic Properties > Exclude From Search), but are
you also able to do this with baggage files? (now that RH8 indexes
those too).
I have a large number of PDF baggage files, but dont want
these to appear in the search.
Thanks...

Hi Mat
Unfortunately Baggage files are immune from Conditional Build
tagging. I would strongly encourage you and others to pester Adobe
with Wish Forms asking for ability to apply CBTs to baggage
content.
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here to visit the Wish Form
Until this feature emerges as part of the RoboHelp feature
set, the best you can probably do is to place the files inside a
folder in baggage where you can occasionally sneak behind
RoboHelp's back and rename the folder temporarily so RoboHelp
doesn't know about it. This would effectively exclude the files.
Once finished with the special build, rename the folder back
to what it was.
Cheers... Rick

Ranking Results for Search not working

We have just installed a trial version of RoboHelp Server 8. I have published 2 test projects in FlashHelp Pro using RH8. When we test the search results feature, the results display in the order the topic is found in the TOC instead of H1, Keywords, H2/H3, etc.
I have looked high and low to find a setting that may be dictating this, but have found none. Is there something I'm missing?
Oh and since I like to eat my cake too, is there a way to display a percentage of the result (i.e., topic one 80% meets search criteria, topic two 65% meets search criteria)?

John -- thank you for your reply. I did read the post that you referred to, but that's not how this is working. Neither Server nor Client side search is ranking the results correctly, well at least I don't think so.
Server Side Search
When I search on Activities I get the following results in this order (all topics are in the TOC)
1. Notepad Overview - word in text only.
2. Empower Main Screen Layout - H3, H4, text
3. Editing Activities - Topic Title, File Name, H1, text
4. Adding Activities - Topic Title, File Name, H1, text
5. Activities Overview - Topic Title, File Name, H1, text
The items above are in the TOC in this order from top to bottom: 2, 1, 5, 4, 3.
Client Side Search
When I search on Activities I get: "No Topics Found".
Other topics I search on seem to display. The results don't display in TOC order, however, they also don't display based on the rank as defined in the Help or the Post you recommended.
Neither search works if I enter keywords in quotes. Nothing happens at all when I use quotes. At the moment, none of the Actitives topics have keywords.
Slight tangent: I am using, or trying to, FlashHelp Pro. Although the Online Help states I can select substring search and context results, there are no options on the layout screen to select this nor on the Window options. I see this if I setup the FlashHelp layout, but the client really wants the reports and other features that Pro offers so I need to get Pro to work as it should.
RoboHelp Admin Info
When I log into the Administrative side of RoboServer the Settings page displays Database and Search options when setup for Server Side search. When setup for Client Side Search, the Sever option disappears. If we stick with Server Side searching, what does it mean by "rescan search engine"?
Is it possible that something wasn't selected correctly during the RoboServer Install? The IT department sits in a totally different state that I'm in and I don't know what the defaults are during the install process as I'm not there and we are doing this all via email.
PS: Not to throw another wrench into this issue, but....we are not using an Index. This is the first time I have created Online Help without an Index. Is this having some sort of impact on the search functionality that I am unaware of?
Regards,
Cindy

How iTunes Ranks Podcasts When Searching by Keywords

Hi all. I have a podcast called OperaNow! I have been doing since 2007. We have 125 reviews, almost 200 episodes and have been producing fairly regularly for that time. A few breaks here and there, but have stayed up-to-date.
My question is how iTunes determines what is listed when you do a keyword search. If you search for "opera", and then filter down by "podcasts" on the right it has a listing if 10 or so opera related podcasts. You can then press "see all" to see w longer list. My show is buried so deep it's amazing. We used to be higher up but have dropped down over the years.
Is this listing also determined by recent subscribers/activity? Some of the shows in the top 15 haven't producded new material in a few years, yet there they are. I'm just a bit confused as to how this is determined?
Any ideas?
-A frustrated podcaster

The methods the Store uses for ranking searches and choosing featured podcasts are shrouded in mystery. they may well be related to the number of subscribers, the frequency of updates, the perceived interest of the podcast itself, or any other factors. We don't know, and they aren't telling.
There isn't anything you can do about this except to make your podcast as interesting as possible, which I'm sure you are already doing. You are, though in competition with thousands of other podcasts.

Ranking on FreeText Search

Microsoft SQL Server 2012 (SP1) - 11.0.3368.0 (X64)
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    Enterprise Edition: Core-based Licensing (64-bit) on Windows NT 6.2 <X64> (Build 9200: ) (Hypervisor)
This is my Search string. I am using FREETEXTTABLE(dbo.pur_Item,ItemName,@searchfor) in the query.
DECLARE @searchfor varchar(500)
Set @searchfor = '4''0X6''8" 1 3/8" Composite Wood'
These are the results.   My question is why line 15 is ranked as 84. I would expect it to have a rank of 252 or at least
a higher ranking than line 10.

The exact algorithm for FREETEXTTABLE ranking (as of SQL Server 2008 R2) can be found here. (I do not currently find a 2012 explanation of the algorithm, but I have no reason to believe it has changed.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms142524(v=sql.105).aspx
Interesting things to consider:
ItemID 8903 is longer than the other lines showing. It looks long enough to be in the next larger ranking bucket which might affect rank.
If the indexes are not merged, then it can affect the ranking of the row.
The LANGUAGE of your full text search will affect how some words are broken
Also FREETEXTABLE is a much looser search than CONTAINSTABLE, as you can see by the description and algorithms.
So, I cannot analyze this for you exactly, but there are factors that you can see from the documentation.
Experiments:
Make a copy of ItemID 8903 and trim the length of the data to see if that changes the RANK.
Try recasting your FULLTEXTTABLE query as a CONTAINSTABLE query and see how that changes the results.
RLF

HOW TO GET RANKED IN GOOGLE SEARCH ENGINE LIST

Hello,
My Name is Etay and We have published a website (Apex 4.x) few weeks ago : (http://www.postme.co.il)
In order for google to rank the website I have used :
1. Page 0 method.
2. sitemap generated by : http://www.xml-sitemaps.com
3. Rewrite Mod (to prevent ...the regular).
4. Publised in Many websites.
5. Followed some SEO tips.
6. Did some facebook Ads (Paid) + Google Ad words (Paid)
6. I am leaving in a small country and market is not that BIG.
Seems that My Web site is hardly indexed.
Can you suggest a Good document / Method / Step by step instructions of HOW to raise ranking in google ?
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Have you seen this thread??:
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Thank you,
Tony Miller
Webster, TX
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Does Flash harm my website rank on Google search results?

Hello.
I know this might be the wrong place to ask this question but I thought I might give it a go anyway.
This is my website: http://surround-sound.co.il
Thanks guys.
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This is the forum for Acrobat forms. I suggest you might try a forum related to Flash.
A tip: don't link to your web site. Because some people use forums for spamming, adding links to your own sites in messages could cause you reputational damage, or even get you in Google's LAP (link abuse program) black list.

RH8 and RoboServer 8 Search Issues - no ranking and renders list most relevant last

Hello
I have a RoboHelp 8 project and I am publishing it to RoboServer 8 in Flash Help Pro format.
The Indexing works great, but the Search process leaves a lot to be desired. In the example below
I searched for the word video, because I know I have a lot of videos in the project. Notice (image below) in the search pane
on the left that any topic that has the word video is located at the bottom of the list that was returned.
I noticed that when this list was rendered, it appeared that "Distribute Your Survey Video" did come in
first, but rendered at the bottom of the list. Is there a way to get this to reverse and show the most relevant
at the top of the list?
Note, we were using Web Help previously and the Search in RH8 worked great along with the ranking, etc.
With our new release of our product on January 22, we changed the help to Flash Help Pro and had someone
design a new flash help skin that matched our product, so we need to use FlashHelp Pro and publish to
RoboServer 8.
I read up on this and found that there are two modes of search, one that defaults to the server search/indexing and one
that defaults to the client search. I modified the installation file on the server to accept the client side, because I thought it
was the server that was causing the problem, but this did not help.
Anyone, that has come across this problem and has a solution, I would be eternally grateful for your input.
Thanks, Lana

Hi Lana, CJ
RoboHelp Server does support ranking of search results both for WebHelpPro and FlashHelpPro and also for both modes of indexing i.e. Server Side Indexing and Client Side Indexing.
@CJ: The search results are sorted according to relevance by default and the only reason we do not show any ranking numbers in search results list in FlashHelp is because it's kind of obvious that the first results is #1 and second is #2 and so on . Even for WebHelp, starting with RoboHelp 9, authors have an option to hide the rank field in search result list because the ranks are kind of obvious and they unnecessarily take up a lot of space in search result pane.
Now the reason your topic "Distribute Your Survey Video" is listed down in the list, could be that it is actually less relevant than otehr topics in context of search query "video". Relevance of a topic for a search query is calculated on basis of number of things which include:
If searched word occurs in topic title
If searched word occurs in headings within topic
If searched word is a keyword in topic
Number of occurences of searched word in topic
It could be possible that other topics are ranked higher because they have more occurences of word "video" or some other combination of above mentioned reasons.
To increase ranking for your topic "Distribute Your Survey Video", you can make "video" as a search keyword in that topic using the "Topic Properties" page in RoboHTML.
Tulika
Adobe RoboHelp Team

Sorting search results by rank

Hi,
Is it possible to sort the search results by rank in RH8 html help ? It works when I click on Title but not when Rank is clicked. What I mean is changing from ascending to descending order.
Thanks,

Which version of content server do you have? In 7.x you can install a custom component named MultiSort, and in 10gR3 this is built in.
Basically you need to use a parameter named SortSpec
example:
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Search ranking (Autonomy) of weblogic portal's content management?

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I would like to know is there any methods for me to manually customize the ranking of the search results of the contents in the content management repository provided by the weblogic portal? Either in Autonomy aspect or in Weblogic portal aspect is ok.
What I prefer is to add some tags into the content document so that I can make the desired content to have a higher ranking in the search results.
Thank you for yours help!
Regards,
Kevin
Edited by kevin45 at 07/05/2007 3:44 AM

Hi Kevin,
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Make this an explicit property (which means you would need to manually add a column to the CM_NODE table).
For each Node in the search result, you could assign this property value.
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Muse sites not ranking in search engines

Does anyone have any suggestions to offer? I have two sites who rank low when searched by title. For example, searching for The Chamber and the Cross (website www.thechamberandthecross.com ) the site is on the 6th page. Yet the newly created facebook page is a first hit and the goodreads page with only one review is now even coming up higher.
I have manually uploaded the site index to google. The site has well placed keywords. The name is in the text throughout the site as keywords, H1 text where appropriate, in the page descriptions, set as alt text on photos. I have at least a couple other well-ranking sites with links to the site. I don't know what else to do! These are the only two sites I've developed using muse and I've never had an issue with any other site, so I must assume this has something to do wtih Muse itself. The sites are hosted at bluehost and I upload them via a 3rd party ftp.

Hi,
Please check these posts for the similar discussion :
https://forums.adobe.com/message/5012761#5012761
Re: SEO in Muse
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Using "Restrict by app" in change query causes issues with Search Results

Hello!
I am hoping some experienced SP admin can help me out. I am having issues with the relevance ranking for my search results web part.
I created a Wiki (OOTB) within a site collection and on the home page of the Wiki I was looking to apply a Search Box and Search Results web part for easy searching. I wanted to ensure the search results were restricted to the scope of the pages within the
wiki. I did the following after adding the 2 web parts:
Entered edit mode for the page
Started to edit the Search Results web part
Under Properties for Search Results clicked on "Change Query"
Navigated to BASICS and clicked "Switch to Quick Mode"
For Select Query, picked "Wiki (System)" option
For Restrict by app, picked "Specify a URL" and input the wiki URL "http://webapp.com/sites/sitecollection/wiki"
Click OK
The web part has 6 automatic results when I hit the page. These are the only 6 pages in my wiki. When I search a word or title of a page, they are not ranked in order or relevance. The ordering is static to what was being shown before the search, but the
keywords I'm searching are bold. With out the taking the steps above, I can easily search these pages and have them ranked appropriately so I'm not too sure what I'm doing wrong.
Other Details
The pages have been crawled and can be searched from anywhere else in SP.
I am only a site collection admin for this specific site collection.
I other than the steps above, I have not made any changes or customization to the search web parts; they are both out of the box SP.
The SP Farm admin we unable to pin point what the root cause is either.

Hi Mikael,
Sorry for the wait, I was unable to post pictures, which i felt would better describe my issue.
Could you output the query template you are ending up with?
If you can tell me how to accomplish this, then I can provide it. Please keep in mind that I am only a site collection admin.
Also, is the ranking/sorting for your webpart set to ranking?
When looking at the web part settings, I didn't see an option to modify the ranking. Unfortunately, some sites in my intranet are down now so I can't even double check. Once it's back up, I will verify this as well.
And how do you know they are ranked incorrectly?
I wanted to display an image showing what I meant by this. As the wiki is down, I'll do my best with words. When I visit the wiki home page, I already have the search and search results web parts there. Without searching anything, the search results
web part displays 6 pages that are available in the wiki. When I search, I expect to see the most relevant result at the top. similar to the following:
*Search result from another section of the intranet site.*
What I receive instead is the same list of wiki pages, in the same order. The most relevant result
is not moved to the top like in the image above, but I can see that the word "rush" is highlighted in bold. I hope this helps.
If you need more of a description, please let me know.
Thank you

Free iWeb SEO Tool to Help Improve Search Engine Rankings

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