Rebate account accurals

hi,
i was working on Rebate agreement
i am also able to see mine rebate agreement in background i.e(VF02)
but when i am saving mine invoice i am getting error
ERROR
Count Invoice (F2) 0090036159 20.05.2008 Acct determin error
so i am not able to see mine accurals in VBO2
when i am gng to VBO
and there is one mess and enter mine agreement no.
it is showing called
The sales volume for agreement 101 is not current
can u plz forwad me the accont keys required for rebate
use in VKOA and any more plz
its urgent
Regards
Vinit

Dear SAINATH,
What I can see i will Just Elaborate:
BO02 (Rebate material)      Assignment Account Key (ERB)                        Accural (ERU).
In the T-code: VKOA:
Chart of Acc+ Condi Type+ Custo Acc Grp+ Mat Ac Grp)
+ ERB   = 45022800
2nd
Chart of Acc+ Condi Type+ Custo Acc Grp+ Mat Ac Grp)
+ ERU     =       14780010 (G/L )     &    14780040 (Prov. G/L)
In VF02 Condition Type BO02 double click
Shows that ERB = 14780010 (G/L )
&               ERU = 14780040 (Prov. G/L)
Accounting document : (G/L) Debit and (Prov. G/L) Credit entry
Now My Qyestion is ERB is assigned to different G/L Accounts Why there is no entry in the Accounting document for G/L 45022800.
Please explain
regards,
A S

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Dear SAINATH,
What I can see i will Just Elaborate:
BO02 (Rebate material)      Assignment Account Key (ERB)                        Accural (ERU).
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