Rebate Agreement Issue.

Dear Gurus,
My client's requirement is like this.
Quantity and rebates are given below.
Qty       Rs
100     10
200     20
300     30
400     40
This rebate agreement is on monthly basis.
If the customer buys 100 tonnes then accrual is 100*10 Rs.
Like that he buys 4 times in a month, then each invoice accrual is 100*10 *(4 invoices)- 4000.
But they calculate the rebate on cumulative monthly sales it means his sales should fall under 400 tonnes.
So his accrual should be 400*40 Rs *(4 invoices)- 64000
Can anybody guide me how to do this.
Presently accrual is happening for Rs.4000, but it should be 64000. Pl guide me to rectify the issue.
Thanks & Regards,
Sreehari.
Edited by: Sreehari Kondapalli on Jul 8, 2008 8:15 PM

Hi Sreehari
What I can make out from this is that Is it possible for you to change the amount on each rebate record for example Rs. 400 for quantity 400.
Does it serve the purpose or do we have some implication of it
Manu

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please have a look to this SAP Help link & use all these 27 steps as a key check for your scenerio.
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[Creating Rebate Agreements|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_ides/helpdata/en/5d/363ec3583f11d2a5b70060087d1f3b/content.htm]
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