Rebate agreement types
Dear all,
1. What are sceanrios in which we use agreement type 0005(Sales independent volume}?
2. How to create the record for VBO1 for customer /volume rebate(0001) as the condition inforamtion is not available. . Here the condition type group is assigned to two conditiontables(First one is customer and material and the second one is Custome/Volume rebate. Every time it is taking the first condition by default?
Regards,
Keyur. p
Hi.
If you are using 0005(Agreement type )has a condition type group 0005 with one condition type BO06 has one standard table in the acesssequence thas the fileld customer since it is independent of the sales volume..But as you said that you have 2tables customer/materail/indepent volume type linked to this condition type correspondingly to the rebate agreement type.This means you need to check if the exclusive indicator is not checked in the acessseuqence for the first as it allows to only get the default value when you make the condition record.
This can be one of the reason why it is displaying the default value when you make the record.
Please check this out
Thanks
Saurabh
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Problem in rebate agreement type 0005
Hi
I created a rebate agreement of type 0005 and maintained amount Rs 5000 for a customer
while creating billing document the condition type BO06 was determined in the billing doc but without anu value
the analysis shows that condition record has been found
I have checked the pricing date and all other parameters but still not able to figure out the mistake
Kindly help me in this regard
Thanks and Regards
SunilIyerHi SunilIyer
If you are working with the standard rebate agreement 0005 and condition type BO06
You will be working with a sales independant agreement and a fixed amount condition.
For a fixed amount there is no posting of accruals because it is already known what the
liability is in the agreement.
If accruals are required most customer's would post a manual accrual from the agreement
for the fixed amount of the agreement condition.
In your billing document you will see the Bo06 condition is determined and the agreement is
known but the condition value will always be 0.00 for a fixed amount.
This is correct and expected
Hope this helps explain the system behaviour
Kind regards
Brian -
Rebate agreements / Rebate condition type
Hi Experts,
Can anyone tell me how to process Rebate agreements/Rebate condition types in pricing procedure.Please help me by giving step to step description for rebate condition type and where to maintain condition records and how they function.
Thanks in advance experts,
Kanna Palle.Hi ,
find some notes on rebates.
in the billing document, the rebates are calculated as per the the accrual rates in rebates condition records. My question if the invoice is for Rs 100 and accrual rebate amt in invoice is rs 2. will the customer pay Rs 98 against this invoice of full Rs 100.
Ans --> Customer need to pay Rs 100 only , rebate amount will paied to the customer after completion of the rebate duration in between there will be partial settlement.
2) what happens during manual accruals. why a credit memo request is generated during manual accruals. what happens to accruals as per condition records.
Ans--> Manual Accruals
Use
Posting accruals manually can be useful in different situations such as:
Lump sum payments
Accruals correction
You can control at which time and for which amount the accruals should be posted.
You can build accruals for a particular condition record or reverse them in part or in full.
When you save the rebate agreement, the system will automatically create a credit memo request. The system uses this document to create a credit memo. When the credit memo is released, the accruals are posted to FI.
If you have posted accruals manually, but these have not been passed on to financial accounting, the manual accruals and manual payments in the rebate agreement are blocked.
3) what happens during partial settlement. do the accruals already poested gets reduced to the extent of amount of partial settlement. do manaul accruals have any role to play during partial settlement
Ans->Partial Settlement
Use
You can also partially settle a rebate agreement during its validity period. The amount to be paid can be limited in Customizing for Sales. Payments can be:
limited to the cumulative accruals of the condition record
limited to the amount that would be paid if final settlement were presently carried out
unlimited
You carry out partial settlement by using the manual payment screen within rebate agreement processing. On this screen you can specify the amount to be paid for each condition record.
The system will automatically create a credit memo request for the amounts specified.
It will also reverse the accruals with the credit memo if the rebate agreement type is configured accordingly. If the payment exceeds the recordu2019s accumulated accruals, the system will only reverse the accruals which are actually there.
The system gives you the opportunity to carry out additional partial settlements when previous partial settlements remain open in the form of credit memo requests or credit memos. The system always takes open documents into account when determining the maximum amount which you can pay.
When the system carries out final settlement for a rebate agreement, it takes all partial payments into account.
4) what happens during final settlement. do manual accruals have any role to play during final settlement i.e. do they get reversed and what happens to accurals posted as per rebate condition records.
Ans-->Final settlement
Use
When you carry out final settlement of a rebate agreement, the system automatically
calculates the rebate based on the sales volume statistics or the lump sum
deducts any previously paid rebates
It then creates a credit memo request, and proposes the end date of the agreement validity period as the billing date.
The system also reverses any accruals that have been posted.
Depending on Customizing, when the system creates a credit memo request, the document is automatically blocked for billing. After approving the credit memo request, the person responsible can remove the billing block. You can then create the final credit memo.
When you want to search for credit memo requests during sales order processing, you can use the match code F "Credit memo request for rebate".
You can carry out final settlement of rebate agreements
automatically
Manually
as a background task (in batch)
Settling Single Rebate Agreements
You can carry out settlement directly from within a rebate agreement.
Before you save the rebate agreement you can still carry out changes to the credit memo request:
The credit memo request is only saved when you save the rebate agreement.
Carrying out Final Settlement as a Background Task
If the volume of your sales rebate processing is high, you can collectively process rebate settlements as a background task.
The following reports are available:
RV15C001
RV15C002
Your system administrator can use these reports to generate a list of rebate agreements, based on various selection criteria, such as rebate recipient, status of the agreement, and so on.
Background processing can then be carried out later. I.e., after the regular posting periods.
After a list is generated, the rebate agreements can be analyzed or processed for payment.
For more information about settling rebates as a background task, see your system administrator.
Best regards,
venkataswamy.y -
Settling Rebate Agreements with Validity Start Date not Start of the Month
Hello Experts,
I am currently trying to settle a rebate agreement with validity dates November 20, 2011 to December 31, 2011. However, after the credit memo is created, I noticed that the Service rendered date is today's date, but I expected it to be the same as my Settlement Date = November 30, 2011 (a month-end). Please advise if this is normal. If not, please advise how to correct the automatic entry of dates.
Thanks,
MHi
Kindly let us know what is the rebate agreement type that has been used for which you are facing problem and for which rebate agreement type you are getting the month end date.Check wheather scale basis is B(Value scale) has been maintained or not for the rebate agreement for which you are getting problem.So check the differences between the two rebate agreement types.As The service rendered date of the invoice line item is used to determine the validity of a rebate condition record
Regards
Srinath -
Accruals not updated for Changed Rebate agreement when VBOF performed.
Hi Pals,
Need your assistance in solving an incident . our client has changed the valid to date of the rebate agreement on 29.04.2014 in VBO2 from 28.02.1014 to 31.12.2014, later it was observed that the rebate accruals for the blling documents generated after 28.02.104 to till date were not updated even after running the report VBOF. There are 15000 invoices after 29.04.2014 , hence it is difficult to check which invoices carries my rebate condition type.
hence pls advice on
1. how to find out the invoices for the changed agreement .
2. How to update the accruals for the invoices that were created after 28.02.2014 to till date.
An early reply would be highly appreciated.
Br
Krishna.KDear krishna
i tried your scenario--so after changing the validity for my Material rebate agreement type--i ran VBOF(SDBONT06)--so system has shown the updated billing doc with rebate which was not having any rebate condition earlier.
Have you tried by retrieving all the billing docs created after service render date of 28th Feb14.
Please take all the billing docs created after this date from VBRK table and you check some random billings docs whether rebate condition type is active with condition record or not.
(other wise you try with by executing condition record numbers in KONV(doc condition number--then followed by VBRK)
pl update us..
Phanikumar -
Hi,
We in our company has implemented rebate agreements. We have monthly offtake rebate as one of the rebate agreement type. The scales are as
0-50 nil
51-100 Rs. 375/MT
101-200 Rs.425/MT
201-500 Rs. 500/MT
> 500 Rs. 600/MT
Total billed qty for a month is 250 MT.
Currently it is calculating as 250MT*Rs.500 = Rs. 125000 as the rebate amount.
But the system should calculate as below
first 50MT - 50MT*0 = 0
second 50MT 50*375 = 18750
for 100 MT 100*425 =42500
last 50 MT 50*500 = 25000
total rebate amount = Rs.86250
I tried with scale type D - graduated to-interval but it is not accepting this scale type.
Please help me to solve this problem.Hi,
Scales are ignored when calculating accruals, but will be calculated at rebate settlement.
You can check the manual on rebate set up and management that rithvika posted in another thread:
Rebate Scales - Graduated to Interval scale
Or OSS note 392711
https://service.sap.com/sap/support/notes/392711
best regards
Michael -
Our business has five main Rebate Agreement (Arrangement) Calendars :
October to September
July to June
April to March
August to July
January to December
There are additionally, some other validity periods that we might use, such as six-monthly, however the above five calendars probably account for 80-90% of our Rebate Agreements.
The problem :
We want to be able to use Rebate Agreement Calendars to automatically extend Agreements for a further 12 months. However, my understanding is that each Rebate Agreement Type is only designed to work with a single Calendar, therefore we would have to create a further four copies of an Agreement Type, each with a different calendar assigned. E.g. :
RA Type Calendar Description
ZR01 R1 October to September
ZR02 R2 July to June
ZR03 R3 April to March
ZR04 R4 August to July
ZR05 R5 January to December
and the same for all other Agreement Types we use. This would result in a ridiculous amount of duplicate/needless configuration.
We have unlocked the screen field to be able to change the Arrangement Calendar in VBO1/VBO2. However, we still have to set a default Calendar in config, via txn VB(2, and that default flows through to the RA on creation. Although it is then possible to overtype the Calendar, only the default appears in a picklist, which is confusing to the user. In addition, even if we overtype it, if we then extend the RA via VB(D, the Calendar maintained on the individual RA will be ignored, with the Calendar taken from config again.
I find it hard to believe that we are the only company wanting to use Rebate Agreement (Arrangement) Calendars in this way, is there something obvious I'm missing ?
Many thanks, Paul.Hi Jo Jo,
I had implemented Rebate in my company and had similar problem.
After doing Trial & Error on Sales Volume & Verification level screen I found:
In Sales Volume :
After u201CPayu201D of Accruals, remaining value comes. If the credit note created is not passed to A/C, the value does not get reduced. Also, unless the Invoice/Billing Doc. is passed to A/c. the value here shows 0 (ZERO)
Items that show accruals of 0 are invoice line items that applied retroactively. Since the rebate agreement did not exist when they were created, no accrual could be made.
In Verification level:
Total accruals, document and item wise come.
So the difference may be due to some of the docs that are not passed to Accounting or may be due to retroactive agreement.
Hope it adds value to your question.
Regards,
Tushar Karwa -
Re:Rebate Agreement Setup for CRM 2007
Hello Friends,
Essentially, when we are setting up Rebate agreement types in ECC in customizing, We need to specify a Settlement document type.
Given that with CRM 2007, the rebate agreement will not be used for settlement is there any thing that they can do to not specify the Settlement document type. Since we have to specify a Settlement document type, can anyone one give guidance regarding customizing/configuring the Settlement Document Type?. Also that it should not create the Accounting document.
Thanks,
Juliecheck the number range in ECC for this Reabte.
Can you give me the BDOC error which is triggered and The out bound queue also sholud be in error.
Check the out bound queue and try and reprocess that i think it wll have the dump in ECC system.
please check that dump and take corrective actions.
thanks
Kumar -
Hi,
Can any one explain how to maintain difference no range for different rebate agreement type. i am using two agreement type .ie B001 and B003,my client want different no range for both agreement type.
In customization there is no such provision exist.
Please guide me for the same.
HemantHi,
Your can assign the number range for rebate in t code VB(1. Here create 2 separate groups for your rebate agreement type.
I hoe this helps you.
Regards,
Abhee -
Plant determination from Rebate Agreement
After creating rebate agreement type, I went to make a sales order. But the problem is, the plant didnt appear. How can I make it automatically appear in may sales order?
Thanks.The system should default Plant AAA, but if you want to change, it is very much possible. Select the line Item & double-click on the same & goto Shipping Tab page & change the plant.
Alternatively, before entering the material in sales Order, enter Delivering Plant. (Even this may work. You will need to check this)
Regards,
Rajesh Banka
reward points if helpful. -
Hi Gurus,
While creating rebate agreement for customer, after giving all details, we would right conditon record what one should specify there. I mean what is "amount and accrual".
Also where I should mention the sales value ie target will be given to custmer.
Thanks
ShivHi Shiv patil
Following explains how to crete a rebate agreement, test it using a sales order and billing it. Then settling it partially or fully using a rebate credit memo. Please use the basic procedure and tweak your IMG settings according to your unique requirements.
Rebate processing:
1. First requirement is that the rebate processing must be active for
a. the customer ( check in customer master) ,
b. for the billing type ( check in IMG > Billing > rebate processing > active rebate processing > select billing documents for rebate processing. )
c. For the sales organizatin:
( check in IMG > Billing> rebate processing > active rebate processing > Active rebate processing for sales org. )
2. Next create a rebate agreement For this ust T-code VB01. For the rebate agreement type you can choose either 0001
( group rebate ) or 0002 material rebate or 0003 ( customer rebate ) etc
b. Enter your rebate conditions. Dont forget to enter the accrual rate here.
3. Now test your rebate functionality : create a sales order for the particular customer, sales org ( ensure that the billing type used in your sales order is relevant for rebate) . Create outbound delivery, transfer order to do picking and post goods issue.
4. Now go to Tcode VB03 and check your rebate by choosing conditions , selecting the condition line and choosing payment data. You will see that the accruals and business volume are updated when accounting doc is created for billing.
5. Settling your rebates:
Once your rebates have been accrued you need to settle the rebate.
For this first release the rebate for settlement by using Tcode VB02. As a trial basis choose B ( you can choose other settings based on your requirement) and choose Create manual accrual. Now enter the amount to be paid and save the rebate agreement.
6. Next display your rebate agreement using Tcode VB03.
Enter your rebate agreement number . Next choose rebate payments > Rebate documents and select partial settlement. Click on the choose button to note down your credit request number.
7. Use Tcode VA02 and release the billing block for your credit request. ( use item overview tab)
8. Now use VF01 to create a rebate credit memo by entering the credit memo request number and save it
9. Now release the credit memo to accounting using vf02.
The following link will help u.
http://www.erpgenie.com/publications/saptips/052005.pdf
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Multiple rebate condition types in one invoice
I had defined multiple rebate condition types as Y000, Y001 and Y002, which are montly offtake rebate, distance rebate and yearly offtake rebate.
Y000 and Y001 can be in the same validity period and also will be applicable to the same invoicee.
When i create a rebate agreement for customer for Y000 and go for the settlement of the rebate it is happening fine.
But for the same customer, i had defined Y001 as a rebate agreement type for the same period and materilal.
The sales volume is not updated in the rebate agreement. Evenif I do VBOF the sales volume is not updated.
the error that comes while doing VBOF is :
"7000158055 Document number RCFL 7000158055 2011 was already assigned
7000158053 Document number RCFL 7000158053 2011 was already assigned
7000158052 Document number RCFL 7000158052 2011 was already assigned
7000158054 Document number RCFL 7000158054 2011 was already assigned"
Please help me to solve this problem.
Mrs. Swati PawarHello Swati,
the suggestion of JP is correct.
I explain it better.
- the document type of FI document created from SD depends on the customizing of billing type field TVFK-BLART. If it is blank, then by default is 'RV'.
- if the number range assigned to the account document type is External, then the FI document gets the same number of the SD invoice.
- transaction VBOF creates FI document referred to SD invoice. If it has external number range, and an FI document already exist with same number (created when SD invoice has been released to accounting), then the errof F5152 occurs.
SOLUTION:
in the selection screen of VBOF there is the field FI-Doc-type. Here you should specify the FI document type that should be created by execution of VBOF, and of course it must have number range internal.
Please try this.
Best regards,
Ivano. -
Rebate-Manual payment is not allowed for this agreement type
Hi,
While processing the Rebates, after the Sales cycle till Billing document, when i i try to process the partial settlement it is givin a message as "Manual payment is not allowed for this agreement type"
could you please suggest.
Regards
ASHi AS
If you want to do manual payment then in VB)2 select the Agreement type and then in that agreement type check wheather Manual rebate order type has been assigned or not and Manual payment has been checked or not . If they are not maintained and Checked then maintain the rebate document type and check the box Manual accruals and then you can do Manual Payment for that agreement
Regards
Srinath -
Condition Types in Rebate Agreement
Hi,
Please help me with the condition types in RFQ rebate agreement and their descriptions.
Thanks in Advance
VikramHi,
Thanks for your answer.
When I tried to create a new condition record with different validity date, the system gave me a message "VK 104, the condition is being processed in current session". and then removed the record from the screen. It's because of the same condition key exists.
I think it's related to the difference on condition tables. When I checked a condition table for PR00, the attribute was "with validity period" but a rebate condition table had none in attribute.
Do you have any idea? -
Output Type for Rebate Agreement
Hi
In VBO3, Rebate Agreement Master Data, We can see in the menu "Issue Output to -> Printer". But this is grayed out. How can we set up the output type in Rebate Agreement?Hi,
We can print the rebate conditions agreement, by standard, but it is printing per condition recort. Is there a way to print it all in one page per agreement type instead of per agreement record? Such as in one agreement, there are several conditions.
Thanks,
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