Recording Dates in Results Recording

Hi.
I have an inspection with a task list. Several samples will be tested each time an inspection lot is created. I have a number of MICs that are quantitative / calculated to determine results of lab testing - this is all working great. The problem is that for each of my samples I need to be able to document general information about the sample. The types of information that needs to be documented are, for example, dates and sample numbers (not serialized using SAP).
Primarily these dates need to be used to generate date range specific reports of the lab results. It is for this reason that I do not want the users documenting dates in the inspection description field in results recording.
Does anyone know if using the QM_INPUT_PROCEDURE BAdI can the result field of a quantitative MIC be formatted as a date? Or has anyone had a similar problem that they have been able to solve? Is Sample Management / Physical Samples the direction to take?
Thank you very much in advance,
Cristin

Ok. Here's one way around this.
You can read this post:
http://sapfans.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=14682&p=43885&hilit=datecharacteristicinspectionlot#p43885
But basically you use numeric MIC and the date is recorded in the form yyyymmdd. So for today it would be 2010622. You can even set a spec range at the begining of each year. So the range would be 20100101 to 20101231. This could help cut down on typos as well.
This number then gets copied to the batch record to a linked hidden numeric characteristic. A dependency is used to convert the number to the appropriate date. The dependency then updates a second characteristic with the date. It is this second date characteristic then that you can use in your reports. If you want to make sure the date formatted characteristic is changed due to additional testing or sampling you can include an IF NULL or an IF INITIAL statement in the dependency so once the characteristic has a value, it wouldn't be updated if the dependency was called again.
I am guessing each blood donation is being set up as a separate batch number.
FF

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Hi,
Quite unique and interesting!
As per my knowledge there is no specific standard report for this. You may have to go with work around- Z report for this. I do have a suggestion. Just check whether feasible.
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"Difference between individual result recording or summarized result recording"
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hi
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A requirement from my client hasd put me in awkward condition.
I need to record result as DATE. Because as per the testing protocol of all hte materials mfg date and expiry date.
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With Best Regards,
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I am very much thank full to both of you for your such a valuable inputs.
Dear Craig,
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e.g. It was demanded that "Mfg Date" for the delivery and consignment, is to be checked by the Quality inspector and to be filled in the report. So hence we can fetch it through the Batch itself, but to mentioned that the inspector has checked the Mfg Date, and well documented it, we had to keep a MIC in the Inspection plan.
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For future reference, just post the actual VI. It is easier to troubleshoot than a print as a PDF.
Given the software complexities of separate threads and serial bus versus PCI bus, I don't see how you can say that the measurements actually start at the same time. The only way you can say that the measurements started together was if you were using a hardware trigger.
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VALUATION NOT APPEARING IN RESULT RECORDING

Hello....
I have created an inspection plan where i have assigned all the characteristic to be inspected with quantative data.
Upon goods receipt inspection lot is generated,
while doing result recording when i enter the result for eg. if the characteristic value is 1-10, and i enter the reult as 1, the valuation has to be set automatically as accepted but its not appearing, could anyone please let me know am i missing any settings.
Suggestions will be worth appretation

Hi sarfrazbaig ,
If you are using sampling procedure, check the "Valuation Mode". It must be "Manual Valuation" to achieve the valuation Manually.
The trx code will be QDV1/2/3 for Sampling procedure.
Regards,
Shyamal
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Okey if you are not using the sampling procedure then,
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Revert for for further inputs.
Regards,
Shyamal
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Mark Andrew wrote:
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Hi Crag ,
Thanks for understand because i am totally new in QM.
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