Refurbishment order

Dear Experts,
Please suggest which route is better for capturing the repair cost of a material send outside for repair.
1. Through external services ( Control key PM03 )
2. Through sub-contracting ( Control key PM02 )
Kindly explain the pros and cons of using the above processes in a refurbishment order.
Regards,
Vivid

hello,
you can use PM02 or PM03 for external repairs.
The main diffrence between PM02 and PM03 are...
if you use PM02:
Work order>PR>PO>GRN>Invoice
at the time of GRN it will be update the actual cost into the work order.through this way also you would able to capture maintenace expenditure per equipment.
PM03 :
Work order>PRPO>Serv entry sheet>Invoice.
the main diffrence is instead of GRN you r posting SES, you would able to maintain details of servces like....
    Repair deisel engine---
        Changing the injection nozles
        changing gaskets
here also at the time of SES system will update the actual cost to the order, you would able to track the actaul expenditure for equipment in PM.
you can track the details of servicces in PM and MM.
The usage is depends on the business needs.

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Error while creating Refurbishment Order

Dear Frnds,
I am trying to create a refurbishment order, while creating its throwing an error message "Valuation type SP_REP does not allow in-house production".
I have done the following steps.
1. Created order in IW31 with order type PM04.
2. Mentioned the Material number, plant and business area.
3. In Create Refurbishment order: Central Header screen mentioned the plant details in Refurbishment sub screen.
From Plant 1000 Storage Location 1050 Val. type: SP_REP
To plant 1000 Storage Location 1050 Val. type: SP_Ind
at that time its thronging the above error message.
What could be the problem for that? And also can any one explain me the detailed procedure for the refurbishment order?
Thanks in advance
Praveen.

If I try removing the Valuation type in the Order Header Screen, The order is taking a valuation type that is "IM_OWNPROD".
I have checked in SPRO order types and other settings but i did not find anything related to Valuation type and Order.
Where this setting is done in SPRO, I need to remove the default valuation type in the order.
Please help me.
Thanks in Advance,
B. Praveen

Creation of a refurbishment order from the notification is not supported

Hello All,
I would like to know whether we can create Refurbishment Order directly from Refurbish. Request Notification.
Currently when trying to do that I'm getting error message saying that 'Creation of a refurbishment order from the notification is not supported'.
SAP doesn't support that kind of scenario or I'm missing some configuration?
Thanks in advance
G.

Hello again,
Thanks for your answer but I would like to get some more clarification.
What I would like to do is create Refurbishment Order from the notification directly by clicking create button which seats just next to order field or from the menu Notification -> Create -> Direct.
I'm getting pop up window where Order Type is filled in automatically because of the config I made. Then I just fill in Main Work Center field and hit continue. Afterwards message 'Creation of a refurbishment order from the notification is not supported' appears.
Can you confirm that above described scenario is not supported by SAP.
Thanks in advance.
G.

Goods receipt for Refurbishment order

Hi dears,
The following error is displaying when i try to save GR for Refurbishment order in IW8W.
Create account 895000 for 17.02.2010 as a cost element in controlling area MCC
Regards,
Alagesan

Hi
Can you tell me your configuration in order type
Is it the revenue posting you have marked or not
if yes then you have to create account in finance to collect the revenue
please consult with fico team
Regards
pratap

Problem in settlement of Refurbishment order

Hi Gurus,
I have problem in the settlement (KO88) of refurbishment order. I am getting error " Final delivery not entered for the order. It is not technically completed"
Message no. KD258
But i have already done final delivery in T-code IW8W & Technical Completion is already done.
So why i am getting this error.
Kindly help me in this matter.
Regards,
Vivek

Hi Vivek
As its a refurbishment order , after completing your all maintenance work , refurbished part to be send back to storage location , this is called as **FINAL DELIVERY ** in refurbish,
After that you can do a technical completion and go for settlement.
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Cost of sales not getting generated during final settlement of refurbishment order

Hi
We use refurbishment Order and we have settlement receiver as PSG. We use RA Key. We use raw material components CE 1, , We confirm debit labor,
we also receive Revenue cost element category 11 .
We have RA key assigned in the Order.
Now We ran and save values of RA and run KO88 and Dr. WIP Cr. Cons offset is credited. this is when the status is REL and when the status is TECO, then we calculate RA and run KO88 RA is reversed. Now COGS is not getting populated at all and there is no CO PA document also. Kindly let me know the configuration needed for this purpose. I need this very urgently.
This is a simple scenario and this no connection with SD as of now.
Aparaajith

Hi Szymon
We have 3 types of refurbishment order type
1. External Consulting services
Here the cost of labor, consulting charges are booked against this service order
Since the job is done more than 2 months then at the end of 1st month WIP is calculated
2nd month job is done -TECO, so the reverse WIP and cost of Sales comes into play.
Here they book revenue against the service order. Since MTO is not used here, based on status of the order TECO, they create billing request and billing where service order is the cost object
So Service Orders hold costs 2nd month end rev and cost.
My problem is the RA what I use does not create Cost of Sales automatically I know there is some configuration is wrong.
2nd issue: CO PA does not get created when I do TECO and consequently I am unable to move sales and cost of sales to copa.
2. third party repair
Here there is no link between sales order and refurbishment order.
So no revenue is booked for this refurbishment order
Next they issue material and move to WIP and 2nd month they move the cost to COS ,reverse WIP>
I use a RA key which does move COS creation of entry.
This is my problem
How to move to COS without revenue and I will create manually 2nd month by using a report to take TECO status and then create revenue entries through SD.
I need response very soon, if you can give me.
Aparaajith

Creation of Refurbishment order

Hi,
I am creating refurbishment order for a material P31010105 corresponding to a plant EPI and Storage location A1 and Valuation types P3 & P2.
The following error is displaying
*BATCH P31010105 EPI A1 P3 not found (Check Entry) *
Please give the solution
Regards,
M.Alagesan

Thanks John cox
It is solved,
The problem is i didnt create material for valuation types P1 P2 P3. I just created material master for valuation category P. Thats why the error appeared
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How to create refurbishment order with notification

Dears
It is sap std practices that we are not creating notofication for refurbishment order
But we are tracing the driver for the process
the end user will create notifaction for planner for creating refurbishment order
But from notification we cannnotcreate Refurbishment order
Then how catch the driver so that false order should be crated
Or we can maintain some field mandatory so that creation of refurbishment process has some base
Regards
chandnrashekhar Ingole

Hi Chandrashekhar,
If you want to create Refurbuishment order after getting notification created by the user & also want to use work flow functionlity then also in ECC6.0 it is possible I have checked it User needs to create a notification on
O170 Equipment + Serial No. + Material No
This tab is avaliable Extras-->settings--> Reference Object view . Please note that the Material number,serial number combination gives equipment number & equipment number will have partner determination procedure & work flow functionlity.
With this triggerd notification you can create refurbuishment order where yo will get material number,serial number & equipment number with std link
This scenirion is working in all combination in ECC6.0 system. Please check & if any thing needed let us know.
Ramesh

Material Posting for Refurbishment order

Hii MM Gurus,
I am going to take external service for making repair of the pump. For repair i am going to send pump & some bearing out for repair of the pump. I am following the process as follows which is out of SAP (Not yet configured). The process is as
1. I make refurbishment order for pump & also assign other material.
2. I make goods issue from store on order & then sends goods to supplier.
3. I am making issue to order but the next operation that is sending material to vendor after goods issue is out of sytsem as for doing 541 material should be in stock & i have already posted it on order.
So what should i follows or how i should post the material sothat it will get issue to order & also post the movements sothat it will allow me to send it out to vendor?
What process i should follow sothat i can show the material is received from vendor & then Repaired pump is available in store for use?
Regards
Makarand

I am using IW81 for creation of refurbishment order.
IW32 to change order for updating other material & external service so that PR should get generated.
Then I am using MIGO for issue of goods to order sothat i can show consumption of material for the order.
We are making PO from PR generated.
Then i am sending material out for repair to supplier on some mannual challan no SAP movement is posted after above MIGO.
Then we receive the material from supplier this is also manual process.
then we do IW8W to return the Pump to store with some other Valuation type say C2.
But when we are sending material out to supplier for repair we cannot having accountability of material through SAP as it is not having any posting through SAP.
Pl guide I want to show that the material is first issued to order then it sent out against the PM order out to vendor for repair.
By PM module it is possible with User status to show the equipment or serial number is at vendor but how to show it through MM.
Regards

Valuation type & object in refurbishment order

Hi Experts,
I am trying to make an refurbishment order in that valuation type field for the material being refurbished is not coming against from plant in refurbishment tab. Also against the quantities under material i am not getting the object push button. Can any one help me with customization path to get both of these inputs. i have attached screen shot for same.
Regards
Rachin Kansal

Hi Rachin,
See the Picture1.
I tried IW81 without split valuations created, but master data (Accounting Data) available for no split valuation with Valuation class and Valuation Category (H). See there are no Split Valuation fields (In my case the split valuations are C2 - Repaired and C3- Defective)
See the Picture 2.
Here I have created the Split Valuation C2 (Accounting Data1 View) through Tcode MM01 , by giving the Valuation Class for Split Valuation (you'd configured earlier) in the Accounting Data1 Tab.
Similarly I have created through MM01 , split Valuation C3 for this material.
See the Picture 3
Now I tried IW81 again, the split valuation fields are appearing.
Jogeswara Rao K

Can we settle refurbishment order periodically

Hi All
our client want to settle refurbishment order periodically to material.
In standard SAP will allow this after TECO.
They r taking more time to complete these orders and costs are setteled in Orders and not reflecting in monthly cost balance sheet.
can we settele initially to one separate cost center and tranfer cost (oder wise ) to material after teco.
It should reflect that the cost should be reduced in cost center and updated in material

Hi,
Please note that in refurbishment case cost is settled to material and this settlement need to be periodic.
You can do settlement after TECO. TECO is technical completion and settlement can be done after TECO also.
However as you said cost are settled to cost centre ,but how it is possible coz settlement receiver is material and not cost centre for refurbishment.They may not able to see correct costs in respective period but cost will always get settled to material(means added to inventory accounts after settlement).
It is advisable to settle incurred costs on refurbishment order as early as possible,so costs will reflect into inventory accounts and within correct period and this is standard practice also.
regds,
atul
Edited by: Atul Mali on Apr 15, 2009 1:52 PM

Can we settle refurbishment order(Plant Maintenance) periodically

Hi All
our client want to settle refurbishment order periodically to material.
In standard SAP will allow this after TECO.
They r taking more time to complete these orders and costs are setteled in Orders and not reflecting in monthly cost balance sheet.
can we settele initially to one separate cost center and tranfer cost (oder wise ) to material after teco.
It should reflect that the cost should be reduced in cost center and updated in material
Thanks in advance
gangs

Hi,
this seems like a WIP (work in progress) scenario, maybe you can try a results analysis version.
best regards,
Luis

MIGO Error when issuing materials to PM Refurbished order

When I am issuing materials (material types: ERSA-Spare parts or HIBE – Operating supplies) to PM Refurbished order using MIGO, I am getting the following message.
SAP Message Details:
Enter CondKey: Message no. M7018
Diagnosis: You have not entered a value in field "CondKey" although an entry in this field is mandatory.
System Response: The system cannot continue processing.
Procedure: Enter a value in field "CondKey" or press F4 (possible entries).
Note: If the storage location or batch is missing it may be possible to enter * in the field and branch into the Storage Location/batch selection list. You can find out whether this function is defined for this field via the F1 help.
Please note that materials that I am issuing DO NOT USE SPLIT VALUATION /BATCHES or SERIALZATION. Please advise the suggested steps to resolve this issue. Thanks!
Regards
Srinivas

Hi,
Thanks for feedback but I have very clearly mentioned that header level material cost is includive of component cost.
Thanks and regards
Bharat

Refurbishment Order Problem

Dear All,
I am facing a problem regarding refurbishment order; while creating an order i am unable to provide the data in delivery quantity as the field is not modifiable;
Also after issuing the component by mb1a and movement type 261; i issue the component from stock with a specific valuation type; but after technical completion i am not getting the updated stock in other valuation type.Do i have to post the refurbished material to desired valuation type manually; or it is automatically updated after i technically confirm the maintenance order.
Regards
Praveen kr. Dhankar

Hi bala
No. i havent done it so far; but after reading your post i did run the transaction.Thanks for the early reply
Will let you know the road blocks i am facing down from here.
Thanks
Praveen kr. Dhankar

Account Assignment Category MAT for refurbishment order

Hi friends,
At tcode OKO6 (customizing of Settlement cost elements), Allocation structures, Assignments, Settlement cost elements, Receiver cat. - Input help (F1)
I need to find the object type 'MAT' for account assignment category that will be used by the refurbishment orders settlement profile (order type 30).
The problem: the object type 'MAT' is not available at the input help list.
The object type 'MAT' is in the table TBO01 and it is assigned to TBO01-OBART but it does not appear in the OKO6 input help list.
Your suggestions will be welcome.
Regards,
Roberto

Yes, you are right. It is necessary to create or modify a settlement profile and to do the assignments like Allocation structure and the Default object type (in my case it has to be 'MAT' for material) in tcode OKO7. It was customized without problem.
But before to run tcode OKO7 we have to run tcode OKO6 and create the Allocation structure. It was done but we could not do the assignment to the object type MAT because the input help (F4) does not show this option. The help shows many options like ORD (order), CTR (cost center), FXA (asset), G/L (G/L account), etc., but the MAT option does not appear.
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Regards,
Roberto

Refurbishment order _Planned and Actual Costs

Dear Experts,
What are the controlling relevant setting to be done for a refurbishment order . Can we do it without costing sheet ? We have 2 scenarios . 1.Refurbishment of spares in-house 2. Refurbishment of spares externally.
Please explain the costing relevant settings and also give a example how the cost is calculated and how to trace the cost incurred for repairing a spare part.
Regards,
Ram

Using both your scenarios you can create same refurbishment order, for reporting purpose you can use PM activity type within the maintenance order, that this order is for internal workshop and the other one is for external repair. now cost will be calculated as for the usual maintenance order means if you are taking external services just proceed with it, if you are issuing material from warehouse you can issue material and so on all the setting remain same for costing purpose.
Regards,
E-Jad

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