Reg third party inspection

Dear all,
please help regarding mapping of scenario, we get a sales order to deliver boiler and a panel board and we give purchase order to procure boiler to a vendor but to have control over the process we hire a third party to carryout inspection at vendor site at each and every stage.
how to map this scenario
Thanks in advance

hi,
Try to create manually inspection lot for what stages inspection is carried out and record the results maintain the relevent inspection type for the material.
Thanks and Regards
Mohan

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Reg third party inspection purchase order

Dear all,
please help in mapping scenario
We get a sales order to send boiler-2 nos and panel-1 no to a customer, here panel is an inhouse production material and boilers are manufactured at a vendors site, inorder to have control over vendors process we rise an purchase order to third party to inspect each and every operation at vendors site,how we can rise a purchase order for inspection to third party as soon as we receive a sales order
can we collect the cost of inspection ina production order
Thanks in advance.

Dear Venumadhav
Can give you some ideas on this
1
1) please create a routing for this material with a control key with External processing tick in it
2) keepone operation in the Routing with activity type for capturing Inspection cost
3) So when production order is created automacticaly PR and PO can be created
For external processing operations, the system generates a purchase requisition from the production order and then generates a purchase order from the purchase requisition.
Posting:
The costs of the external service (including any provided parts) are assigned directly to the production order (to the WIP inventory).
Any differences are assigned to the production order by the GR/IR clearing function.
2) Regarding inspection you can have inspection at the GR of the PO or you can have source inspection where in using QM order you can capture the inspection cost.
Please put the same question in PP forum for a better solution
Regards
Gajesh

Third Party Inspection

Dear QM Gurus,
Here is a scenerio in Quality inspection.
during the manufacturing at some stages inspection is required but this inspection is not performed by my client...they consult with third party and third party do this inspection and submits the report.for this type of inspection they manage the cost incurred also (b/c third party charge price for inspection).
how to map this scenario in SAP? does any can give any idea?
Regards

Hi'
This is possible by customizing a Notification called "Customer Inspection".
You can trigger this inspection manually & Process the same by customers feedback.All the document related to inspection you can maintain here.
Also other option is that you can do Inspection by Inspection type 89.
You will have to manually create the inspection lot.
This will give you list of all lots for customer inspection in QA32.
Regards
Sujit

Reg Third party order processing.

Hi Gurus,
Please help me on the following questions.
1. In third party order processing how costing is updated?
2. How automatic purchase requisition will be generated in third party order processing?
3. Explain about Third party returns process step wise?
Thanks in advance,msi.
Regards,
Vamsi P

HI vamsi
Customize the third party sales in summary:
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and,   therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing      *--
In Details:----
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
      Order Type
      Sales org, distr chnl, div
      Enter
      Sold to
      PO #
      Material
      Quantity
      Enter
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
      Order Number
      Goto Item Overview
      Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
      Key in the PR number
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
      Key in the PR number
      Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
      Execute
      Check the box next to the material
      Assign Automatically button
      Click on "Assignments" button
      Click on "Process assignment"
      The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
      Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
      PO Number
      DN Number
      Batch tab , click on classification
      Serial Numbers tab
      Date of Production
      Flag Item OK
      Check, just in case
      Post
      Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
      Invoice Date
      Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
      Check the box
      Clilck on "Copy"
      Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
      Amount
      State the baseline date
      Simulate & Post
      Invoice Number
      *Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
      In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
      Go to "picking" tab
      State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
      Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
      Enter
      Go to edit -> Log
      Save
reward if helpful.
Regards,
Prashant

Reg Third party PO

Hi All ,
Can We have a setup in SAP so that we can combine a third party delivery with the
inbound delivery process i,e Aim is to deliver directly from subcontractor to end customer via inbound delivery creation. After the inbound delivery (GR) the subcomponents needs to be
backflushed so the stock at vendor is adapted accordingly.
Thanks and Regards,
Mallik.

Std SAP can not support this process.
you can develope a custom solution to handle this scenario.

Reg: Third party issue

Hi All,
Thiis PO is tied to an SO, now it is a third party order to DEF.
therefore, DEF has to deliver the item to our customer
but our customer just cancelled the order
Now we have nothing to do but to just ship the item to DES instead and put it to our freestock
but because the PO is Y S or third party and also done the delivery cost invioce.
we cannot do MIGO
To receive the item on stock what other option needs to be done so we could receive the item on stock.
Please give me the valid input on this.
Thanks & Regards
Siva

sivakumar Annamalai Shanmugam wrote:
> Dear Jürgen L,
>
> Thaks for your reply.
>
> yet i think we will have a problem asking GSI to cancel the invoice that was already issued to us.
>
> first is that they will not accept the cancellation of the invoice and second, item is already with us.
>
> any other way to do this?
>
> wat if we just go through the whole process of creating the DN and the Invoice after the MIRo
>
> then we issue return so it will be returned to GPP stock is that possible?
>
> Thaks & Regards
>
> Siva
I dont know who GSI is.
I am not saying that your vendor has to cancel the invoice.
You have to cancel the invoice receipt
Then you can change the PO.
Then you post the invoice again (just against the new item)
your vendor is not effected by this.

Reg: Third Party Flow Setup

Hi Guru,
i need Customizing and flow of Transaction for the Third Party setup Document. please provide the valid information on this.
Thanks
BR
Siva

THIRD PARTY SCENARIO
In third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. A sales order may consist partly or wholly of third-party items. Occasionally, you may need to let a vendor deliver items you would normally deliver yourself.
Process Flow
The processing of third-party orders is controlled via material types. Material types define whether a material is produced only internally, can be ordered only from third-party vendors, or whether both are possible. For example, a material that is defined as a trading good can only be ordered from a third-party vendor. However, if you manufacture your own finished products, you may also want, from time to time, to be able to order the same type of product from other vendors.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Sales
Third-party items can be created automatically by the system, depending on how your system is set. However, you can also change a standard item to a third-party item during sales processing manually.
Automatic third-party order processing
If a material is always delivered from one or more third-party vendors, you can specify in the material master that the material is a third-party item. During subsequent sales order processing, the system automatically determines the appropriate item category for a third-party item: TAS. To specify a material as a third-party item, enter BANS in the Item category group field in the Sales 2 screen of the material master record.
Manual third-party order processing
In the case of a material that you normally deliver yourself but occasionally need to order from a third-party vendor, you can overwrite the item category during sales order processing. For a material that you normally deliver yourself, you specify the item category group NORM in the material master.
If, as an exception, you use a third-party material, change the entry TAN to TAS in the ItCa field when processing the sales document. The item is then processed as third-party item.
If address data for the ship-to party is changed in the sales order in third-party business transactions, the changed data will automatically be passed on to purchase requisition and also to the purchase order ,if one already exists. In the purchase order, you can display the address data for the ship-to party in the attributes for the item.
You can only change the address data for the ship-to party in the sales order for third-party business transactions, and not in the purchase order.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Purchasing
When you save a sales order that contains one or more third-party items, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition in Purchasing. Each third-party item in a sales order automatically generates a corresponding purchase requisition item. During creation of the requisition, the system automatically determines a vendor for each requisition item. If a sales order item has more than one schedule line, the system creates a purchase requisition item for each schedule line.
Purchase orders are created from purchase requisitions in the usual way. For more information about creating purchase orders, see the Purchasing documentation. During creation of the purchase order, the system automatically copies the delivery address of your customer from the corresponding sales order. In a sales order, you can enter purchase order texts for each third-party item. When you create the corresponding purchase order, the texts are automatically copied into the purchase order. The number of the purchase order appears in the document flow information of the sales order.
All changes made in the purchase order are automatically made in the sales order as well. For example, if the vendor confirms quantities and delivery dates different from those you request and enters them in the purchase order, the revised data is automatically copied into the sales order
You process third-party items by creating a normal sales order. In overview for the order, you can then overwrite the default item category (TAN in the standard system) with the special item category for third-party items: TAS
Billing Third-Party Orders
If relevance for billing indicator for the item category has been set to B (relevant for order-related billing on the basis of the order quantity) in Customizing, the system includes the order in the billing due list immediately. If, however, the indicator has been set to F (relevant to order-related billing on the basis of the invoice quantity), the system does not include the order in the billing due list until an invoice from the vendor has been received and processed by the purchasing department. In the standard system, item category TAS (third-party order processing) has been given billing-relevance indicator F.
In the first case, the third-party order is considered to be completely billed only when the invoiced quantity equals the order quantity of the sales order item. In the second case, each time a vendor invoice is received, a customer invoice is created for the quantity in the vendor invoice and the order is considered to be fully invoiced until the next vendor invoice is received.
If you have activated billing-relevance indicator F for item categories in Customizing, billing can refer to the goods receipt quantity instead of the incoming invoice quantity.
You can control whether the invoice receipt quantity or the quantity of goods received is relevant for billing in Customizing for copying control for billing at item level.
FOR YOUR PROCESS Individual Purchase Orders WELL GIVE THE RIGHT SOLUTION
Individual purchase orders are used when your customer orders goods from you that are not in stock and must be ordered from one or more external vendors.
Process Flow
During sales order entry, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition item. The purchasing department creates a purchase order based on the requisition and the vendor ships the goods directly to you (unlike third party order processing, where the vendor ships directly to your customer). You then ship the goods to your customer. While the goods are part of your inventory, you manage them as part of the sales order stock. Sales order stock consists of stock that is assigned to specific sales orders and cannot be used for other purposes.
Goods receipt will be posted when ever the vendor ships the goods to our customer.
We will do this transaction in SAP using MIGO.
Invoice receipt is done when the Vendor sends us the invoice.. ( I.e Billing ).
It can be done using MIRO.
THe above two steps are standard and manual. There are many other ways that the actual process can happen. If the client follows EDI standards then the Goods receipt and Invoice receipt can be done through IDOCs automatically.
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
Prerequisites for 3rd party sales,
Purchasing org,
purchasing group,
assign the Purchase org to company code
assign Purchase org to plant,
should not maintain the stock in material, it should be trading goods,
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing *--
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
Order Type
Sales org, distr chnl, div
Enter
Sold to
PO #
Material
Quantity
Enter
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
Order Number
Goto Item Overview
Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
Key in the PR number
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
Key in the PR number
Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
Execute
Check the box next to the material
Assign Automatically button
Click on "Assignments" button
Click on "Process assignment"
The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
PO Number
DN Number
Batch tab , click on classification
Serial Numbers tab
Date of Production
Flag Item OK
Check, just in case
Post
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
Invoice Date
Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
Check the box
Click on "Copy"
Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
Amount
State the baseline date
Simulate & Post
Invoice Number
*Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
Go to "picking" tab
State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
Enter
Go to edit -> Log
Save
Third party order processing is as follows:
Assume three companies X, Y and Z
X - The company,
y - The customer
Z - Vendor
When ever X gets a PO from Y to supply some goods, X has an option of either manufacturing those goods or procuring those goods.
If he is procuring the goods, there are two methods that are generally followed:
Method 1) After receiving the PO from Y, X creates a sales order against Y.
Now at the same time he also creates a PO to a vendor Z to produce the goods
Z produces the goods and supplies to X
X receives the goods from Z
Then X delivers the same goods to Y.
After that X invoices Y and Z invoices X.
Note : Here there is no direct/ Indirect relation between Z and Y.
This process is known as Trading Process. and the Material here is created with Material type HAWA.
The other method is a Third party order processing method:
Here the glaring difference is that instead of Z supplying the material to X and X in turn supplying the same material to Y.
X authorizes Z to supply the material to Y on his behalf and notify him once the delivery is complete.
Now Z supplies the material to Y and acknowledges the same to X.
Z will send a copy of delivery acknowledgement and invoice to X.
After receiving the delivery confirmation and invoice from Z, X has to verify the invoice and this process is known as invoice verification and is done in SAP through Tcode MIRO.
The next step for X is to create an invoice and submit to Y
Only after the invoice verification document is posted then only X can create an invoice for Y.
This is the business flow that is followed for third party order configuration.
There are few steps that have to be configured to enable the system to function as mentioned above.
Step1)
If you are always following a third party process for a material then you have to create the material using item category group BANS.
The procurement type should be marked as External procurement (F) in MRP 2 view of the material master record.
if you are not always allowing third party order processing then u can create a material master record with item category group as NORM and the procurement type should be marked as ( X) meaning both types of procurement ( in house manufacturing and external procurement).
Step 2)
the item category in the order should be manually changed as TAS.
For that you need to configure the item category determination
Order type + item cat Group + Usage + High level = Item cat + Manual item cat
OR + NORM + + = TAN + TAS
OR + BANS + + = TAS
Step 3)
make sure that during the item category configuration for TAS you need to mark relevant for billing indicator as F
step 4)
The schedule line category for this type should be CS.
make sure that you mark subsequent type as NB - purchase requisition in this schedule line category as this will trigger the purchase requisition order immediately after the creation of the sales order and the PO to vendor is created against this purchase requisition.
http://help.sap.com/bp_blv1600/V5600/BBLibrary/HTML/114_EN_IN.htm
regards,
indranil

Reg third party application can integrate with SAP Business one

Dear All
I have a typical requirement , i want to know how can it be done in SAP Business One.Our client have other application based product , he is doing all the transactions in that.He has another
DB. that is SAP Business One. Now we want to syncronize the data between two databases. i.e if he enters a Sales order in other based that should be inserted to B1 and vice versa. Not only marketting documents but masters also and financial documents also. I hope it is possible using B1 integration Technology. Can you pls let me know how it can be done. any solution to be suggested is accepted.
please do the needful.
Regards
M Auditya

Hi,
Actually i guess i could be possible but I'm not 100% sure on the level of integration. I recommend u to download the B1iSN and have a look at the doc.. Operation_Guide_Subsidiary_Integration_EN.pdf, And a lot depends on the database the 3rd party software is using.
Hope it helps,
Vasu Natari.

Mapping of Inspection of finished goods by third party vendor

Hi Gurus,
Greetings!!!
I have a senario to be mapped into SAP.
After finished goods inspection by our internal quality team, we are requesting the external vendor for inspecting the same finished goods before delivery to the customer.This is because based on the external vendor inspection certificate the customer approves the qulaity of the product.
Kindly help to map this senario into SAP.Currently we are doing finished good inspection by 04 inspection type.
Thanks inn advance,
Naveen.

Hi,
Your requirement is: to create an additional inspection lot - for which there will be a third party inspection.
It is NOT stock relevant. It probably is: Certificate relevant.
That's the reason why: I suggested you to use Physical Sample (Inspn type 15).
By this inspection: you can ask the Third party to come and draw a sample. After that, you can assign the sample number to it. Hence, it becomes traceable to the Batch/lot/material/date and sample number.
Once sample is drawn and tested, the Third Party sends you the results.
Now, you can record the same results in SAP and print a Quality Certificate for the same.
So, it is NOT relevant whether you are using it in your organisation or not. It becomes a necessity because of your requirement. By using 89 inspection also, you can accomplish the same. However, drawing a physical sample and noting the details of it (who, when, where etc) can only be mapped in Physical sample drawing.
Hope it helps you. Regards, KrishnaM

Quality Inspection (Third Party)

Hi
Is Possible capturing third party inspection ( Quality Level If We are moving material one Location to Other Location Quality Inspection need to be done suppose if the materials is moving to Exports)
Regards,

Kudan
Create an inspection point / user field through SPRO for capturing your requirement like date, time, name etc
SPRO> QM> Inspection planning> General> Define identifier for inspection points
Create an inspection plan for material
Assign inspection point to inspection plan in the header
During result recording, the informations like date name time etc can be captured. this information will be available in RR screen.
I hope this will satisfy your requirement. And absolutely there is no need for maintaining an MIC called date in Inspection plan.
Thanks
Vineeth varghese

Reg:Integrate third party xml file into sap in RFC without using XI

Hai Experts,
i have a third party web page which is converted to IDOC XML file .i have to get the file and integrate to sap .
Can u suggest ways of doing it.
Regards,
Vikram

Hai Experts,
i have a third party web page which is converted to IDOC XML file .i have to get the file and integrate to sap .
Can u suggest ways of doing it.
Regards,
Vikram

Return Of goods in Third Party Process

How to Take back goods Return of Third Party Sale Process?
Is Following Process Correct?
1)Third Party Order
2)Third Party Invoice(Dispatch from Vendor to Customer)
3)Return Order(with ref. to Invoice)
4)Return Delivery
5)Credit Memo
what are the Excise implications?
Reg,
Amol

SAP best practice does not tell you to create a return order and retrn delivery for 3rd party shipments. Generally, you would not like to take back the goods in your own plant for goods that were delivered by a 3rd party.
The customer would directly send back the goods to the 3rd party and you just issue a credit memo to the customer (can be w.r.t the original order or invocie). The company will then create a debit memo to the vendor.
If your client takes back the goods in his own warehouse, then you can follow the process of return delivery or else it is not required .

QM in Third Party Orders

Gurus
In one of my scenario I want to deactivate Inspection Lot generation for Third Party Procurements
If I procure Material M1 with Inspection Type - 01 from Vendor V1 through normal procurement inspection lot should be created (Which is working fine) but if I prcoure same material from the same vendor but this time and its directly been dispatched to the Customer then in this flow
I need to create GR (Statistical GR - To ensure Material is received by Customer and accounting entries)
This time Inspection lots are getting generated.
How can I restrict this ?
Thanks
KK

Hi KK,
What I have understood is, you donu2019t want inspection lot to generation if the consignment is directly going to customer.
Inspection activity is based on the movement type. By which movement type this material is dispatched to your customer? Deactivate inspection for that movement type. Follow this path for the same. QCC0 -> Quality inspection > inspection lot generation > Inspection for goods movement > Deactivate Quality Inspection for a Movement Type >Select the movement and tick on QM Not active checkbox.
If you are using the same movement type in both the cases, I would suggest to customize the different movement type and deactivate QM for that movement.
This will ensure no generation of inspection lot.
Regards,
Anand Rao

SD / Third Party Sales / 2 line items in PR for one line item in Sales orde

Hi
In a third party scenario, I have item category TAS .When I create a sales order, there are 2 Schedule lines for the item. The first SL has confirmed qnty as 0 and the second SL has confirmed qnty as full quantity ( say50). When I save the sales order, it creates a PR as expected. However the PR has 2 line items for this single line item of SO. Each PR line items have the same quantity, in this case 50. Why is this happening. Is it due to some configuration.
All my SD configurations are fine for third party process. Please let me know if somebody faced this situation and solved it.
In crux, one line item in third party process leads to 2line items in PR , each with the quantity as mentioned in teh confirmed schedule line.

Yes interesting to see multiple scheudle lines during TAS processing.
Also please check the scehdule line category. Should be CS. Also check the MRP type in your material.
CS should have Order Type = NB , Item category = 5, Acct Assign Category = 5, incompletion = 31. Rest all fields should be blank or unchecked.
Pur Requisition will be based on the scehdule lines. Since there are 2 schedule lines, you have two line items in the purchase requisition. If you can fix the multiple schedule lines problem in your order, then your requisition looks good.
Please check note 210417 reg av chk for TAS.
Regards
Sai

Should i use a third party charger or the apple charger

for a white macbook

Use a genuine Apple power adapter.
Third party chargers use inferior parts and often bear fraudulent markings from consumer product safety agencies. Using them can be hazardous to you, your MacBook, and other property due to the potential for fire, electric shock, or damage as a result of exceeding the MacBook's power supply tolerances.
It is very difficult to determine if a charger is an actual Apple product from an external inspection, and an internal inspection revealing its deficiencies destroys the adapter. If it's on eBay, it is very likely to be counterfeit.

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