Regarding Rework (by inserting Ref oper set)

hello sap gurus,
i am confused regarding rework ,If we do the rework by inserting the ref oper set in the last in the operation overview of the production order itself than whole component qty reqd for producing the order header material will pass through that ref oper set but the fact is that for only rework qtys we require that ref oper set(but it will charge activity cost to all component qtys).So there would be improper costing(improper target cost) and scheduling.
And while doing confirmation through co11n,for ref oper set which we have inserted in operation sequence at last there we have to confirm only rework qty and for the last oper you have to goods receipt for whole qyt.Am i correct?

Hi
1. Create a production order confirmation of original order with rework qty+yield qty = confirmation qty,Do GR for only yield qty
2. For the rework qty create Rework order using reference operation set.
3. In the Settlement rule for rework order , assigned with settlement receiver as original order.
4.Carry out goods issue for components of rework order..
5 Confirm rework order using co11n
6. Do GR for original order with rework qty ., teco both orders.
7. Settle first the rework order
8 settle original order
As settlement is doing for orginal order, there is no problem in costs,, costs of the rework qty will also capture.
Please come back still if you have any doubts..
Otherwise close the thread by rewarding the points,
Regards,
MSH.

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Is is possible to insert a Ref Operation Set after a routing has been inserted in a prod order? I am getting the error Message no. CO892 which I can't resolve. I know for service orders there is not such constraint.
Thanks in advance to share your wisdom!
Francois P.
Ref. operation set 50000148 is not valid according to the selection conditions
Check why the reference operation set does not meet the selection conditions:
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All right, just found what I was missing: a record in config OPEB.
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FP

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I m doing Trigger points in CO11N. Production Order quantity is 10. While confirmation yield qty. 7 & rework qty is 3. After saving trigger point function pop up but after pop up of ref. operation set, i m selecting Group and Task list type, system displayed *Ref. operation set ********** is not valid according to selection conditions.*
In CA02 change routing I hav done all settings of trigger points and created Ref. op. set by CA11.
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Dear,
Kindly change order type dependent parameters(TCode OPL8), and check routing selection (3 Routing/ref. op. set optional (automatic selection))
and task list type S Reference Operation Set.
check and revert back.
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Edited by: Muhammad Ashfaq on Sep 10, 2011 1:46 PM

Rework using reference operation set

Dear Gurus,
Am working in an ECC 6.0 environment.
Want to create rework order using reference operation set.
Master data created:
BoM
Reference Operation set to which the header material is assigned to which a BoM is assigned.
The settings in OPL8 for order type ZXXX are:
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Create a production order (CO01), with order type ZXXX. The system asks to select the task list group once the order quantity and dates are entered. On selection of the Group for the reference operation set system generates an error 'No valid BoM exsists for Material xxxxx Plant xxxx'.
SAP helps says - A reference operation set cannot be used directly in production.
Am I doing something wrong?
Your expert advice please.
Tarang

Dear first create a reference operation set go to CA11 just press enter without entering anything then enter plant,usage,status and lot size in component allocation you can select the required BOM and assign with the operation.
and create the order in CO07 enter the plant and order type in next screen don't give any material code give description rework and give the quantity to be reworked and in components give the required components for consumption during rework before this you need to give the reference operation set group and task list in the popup and in settlement rule maintain the category and settlement receiver and save the order.
You can confirm the order in CO15 by providing the order number and enter the yield quantity to confirm and save.
Please note that during this rework order confirmation, only Goods issue will happen based on the input given in the components tab rework order and NO GOODS RECIEPT will happen.
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Routing & Reference Operation Set

Hi All,
Could you guys please help me to understand the following will be grateful
What is the difference between Routing & Reference Operation Set?
When the Routing will be used?
When Reference Operation Set will be used?
What are all the advantages and disadvantages behind using Routing & Reference Operation Set in prodution?
At which Scenario Reference Operation Set is must?
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Hi,
Routing defines the sequence of operations that should be carried at a work center to make up a product.
In the operation you define the values for setting the machine and the machine time to prodduce a finished product for a particular base qty.
Routing is one of task list in PP module to carry out the production of finished and semi finished parts. it consists operation sequence which requires for manufacture finsihed and semi finished parts like operation 10. 20, 30...
Ref operation sets is use as template to create routing , rework order.
These are four types...
1) Routing and Ref operation sets (used is discreate manufacturing).
2) Rate routing and Ref rate routings (used in repetative manufacturing).
3) Recipe (used in process manufacturing)
Ref operation sets are repeated operations can be use for several products. you have use these always in rotuings.
For documents and PDF files you can download from the below link
http://mysapbi.blogspot.com/2007/01/sap-help-in-pdf-files.html
CA01 = Standard Routings
CA11 = Reference Operation Sets
CA21 = Rate Routings (used in Repetitive manufacturing only)
CA31 = Reference Rate Routing (used in Repetitive manufacturing)
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R.Brahmankar

Selection problem of Ref op set while converting plnd to prod order

Hi PP Professionals,
Even though we have maintained 'manual slection (4)' for Tast list type- S (ref operation set), we are getting error 'Ref Op set is not valid' and in error help 'error in reading PP master data'.
Since the Routing is same for all the finished products, we want to assign Ref Op Set directly while creating production order.
We have already maintained parameters in 'order-type dependant parameters' and in 'task list selections's default and automatic selection'
Regards,

Hi Senthilkumar,
I really appreciate for your kind Hint of SEL ID.
I created and assigned new 'Sel Priority' to the SEL ID same as for Routing.
Now while converting Planned order to Production order system is asking for Reference operation set as there is no such need of Routing as I already mentioned in previous post.
Regards,

Prod.Order Creation- Using Reference Operation set.

Hi
While creating a production order of particular order type,after entering the quantity and order finish date as today's date(05.06.2007),backward scehduling,it's showing no routing found for the material (as we are using REM-Repetitive manufacturing,we are having rate routing) ,and in the same mesaage box itself I choosed the Reference operation set(that I have created today) and entered the group no,and after entering its showing me an error as <b>Ref. operation set 50000008 is not valid according to the selection conditions</b>,
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Kindly give me a solution for this,Is there anything to do with order type dependent parameters of the particular order type?
Thanks & Regards
Raj

Hi,
Is your problem solved ?
One more solution to create a order with reference operation set,is to use a trigger point.
Once you create a reference operation set.
Use T.code co31 to create a trigger point, chosoe create order with reference & choose a system status eg: PCNF. & click the user parameter tab.
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Then assign this reference operation set to the routing operation.
When you do partial confirmation of this operation, this will trigger the generation of a order.
Regards,
Senthilkumar SD

Link for reference operation set

Dear SAP Guru's
Can anyone provide me the link for Reference Operation Set in SAP Library?
Thanks in advance
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Dear kalyan,
i think ur looking for Rework order, Reference operation set
Plz refer my reply from this Thread
[http://forumsa.sdn.sap.com/click.jspa?searchID=32188014&messageID=8172970]
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DBAdapter insert only operation issue

Hi Gurus,
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Hi Fendy,
could you look inside the audit trail in the enterprise manager to see if the transformations is really working? For what I see, I think there is an error in your xslt. It should be like this:
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Reference Operation Sets

Hello Everybody,
Can someone tell what is meant by a Reference Operation Set?
Where can we create it and how can we assign it to the Routing?
What are the important feilds to be passed to it?
Please help. Its urgent.
Thanks,
Shashi Devi.

Hi,
A Reference operation set can be created using transaction CA11.
Here we can enter a set of operations needed.
Then in CA01 (create routing) from the operations screen we can add the reference operation set & all the operations from the reference operation set will be copied to this routing.
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Dear Experts,
This is regarding the assignment of a reference operation set to a routing. We have one ref. op. set which is applicable for some 30 variants of our products. Now, we need to assign this ref. op. set to the existing routing. The follwoing points are to be taken care of:
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2. Change in the operation number leads to the change in these values. This is not acceptable.
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Dear Sharavan,
Probably, i have not been able to explain the issue. I will give it another try..
Say for the ref. Op. Set the operation sequence is 12, 14, 19...so on
But when we assign the Ref. Op. set to the routing CA02, the at the intial screen we come across one mandatory field "operation srl. no. increment", if we use 0010 in that field . The system copies the ref. Op. set with operation serial nos. starting 00,0010,0020 onwards and not in the order of 12, 14, 19....so on...
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Phantom, Assembly, Reference Operation Set

Hi All,
I am always having a little confusion with follwoings, so could you please help me to understand clearly will be grateful.
What is Phantom ?
What is Assembly ?
What is the difference between Phantom & Assembly ?
What is Reference Operation Set ?
What is the difference between Routing and Reference Operation Set ?
At which situation Reference Operation Set is used instead of Routing in SAP?
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Hi Madhan,
Phantom
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New operation for reference operation set

Hi,
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[www.orbiumsoftware.com]Hmmm, index space not reused ? Index rebuild once a while ? That was what I understood from your previous post, but nothing is less sure.
This is a misconception of how indexes are working.
I would suggest the reading of the following interasting doc, they are a lot of nice examples (including index space reuse) to understand, and in conclusion :
http://richardfoote.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/index-internals-rebuilding-the-truth.pdf
"+Index Rebuild Summary+
+•*The vast majority of indexes do not require rebuilding*+
+•Oracle B-tree indexes can become “unbalanced” and need to be rebuilt is a myth+
+•*Deleted space in an index is “deadwood” and over time requires the index to be rebuilt is a myth*+
+•If an index reaches “x” number of levels, it becomes inefficient and requires the index to be rebuilt is a myth+
+•If an index has a poor clustering factor, the index needs to be rebuilt is a myth+
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