Response in BPM

Dear All
I am doing a scenario where I am receiving an asynchronous message in BPM and sending it Synchronously to the external system A.
When I get a response from the external system I have to check a condition in BPM and based on that either have to supress it or send it to another external system B.
My BPM works like this
Receive Step (Asynch)
Send Step (Synch)
Switch Step (with condition for the response message)
1. Branch: Transformation step for response message
2. Branch: No Step
The problem is that the System B component is not called even if the condition in the switch step is satisfied. I checked PE graph in moni and I can see the request message coming till Send Step (Synch).
Please guide
Sourabh

at least one of the branches in switch should be executed..
if not then i think the switch step must not be reached..chk if the sync send precious to switch is workign fine and u are getting the response..
also refresh SXI_Cache.....
sometimes after there is a error in BPM u have to delete the erroneous process instance using SWWL else the next message will alaso take that erroneous process instaqnce

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Raj,
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Edited by: ruban R on Apr 1, 2008 12:39 AM

Hi,
These Steps may help you
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Data type & Message Type
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response Message Mapping:
b/w ur Response message of RFC/WS and ur message type
Interface Mapping
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1) In container window define a variable named IDoc_ABS with category abstract interface and
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1) Create scenario
    Assign BS and create comunication channels with QoS (quality of service) type BE
2) Import your BPM
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-->in the target service select the BPM. Save
-->In overview windown at foot windowns select MI IDoc_abs only. nothing else
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-->here the system who send data is BPM
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>> For Webservice -
> XI -
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Client
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h1IRh1
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Import your WS as external definition into IR
Message Interface
Define a Message Interface type abstract and sync.
............Request Message (External Definition Idoc)
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Define a Message Interface type abstract and async.
............Request Message (External Definition Idoc)
Define a Message Interface type abstract and async.
............Response Message ( genericResponse)
define them in A_
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h1IDh1
it is too much complicated to explain, lets try
Create scenario
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-->in the target service select the BPM. Save
-->In overview windown at foot windowns select MI IDoc_abs only. nothing else
Create a Receiver Determination
-->here the system who send data is BPM
-->in the target service select the BS of receiver system.Save
-->In overview windown at foot windowns select interface mapping and assing communication channel
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1)receive data from sender system and send it to BPM
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