RGB conversion to CMYK InDesign CS4 js

Hi,
When we export InDesign into pdf through a script we assign to it a specific color profile. And at first it was converting all RGB files to CMYK as well. Then after one of the crashes my InDesign stopped to convert them. Is there a way to fix that? And maybe I need to give to you more specific information. Please let me know.
Your help is highly appreciated.
Yulia

May be you should ask that in Scripting Forum: http://forums.adobe.com/community/indesign/indesign_scripting
I guess you will more likely get answers...

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