Sales Documents: OR- Standard Order

Hi,
Can somebody answer the following questions please:-
1)     In sales documents for example OR we have
             No range int assignment = 01
             No range ext assignment= 02
Does this mean that this sales document can have both internal as well as external number range? And if that is the case then which of these two ranges takes precedence. I mean, if we create a sales order do we have to assign it a number (external assignment) or does the system generates the number for the sales order (internal assignment)? And if it is internal then can it be made external and vice a versa?
2)     If we have a order related billing (F2), then is it still necessary to have a delivery type under shipping?
3)     If we have delivery type as LF outbound delivery under the shipping section in standard order OR, then why do we have order related billing type F2 assigned to it under the billing section. It should only have delivery related billing since we can clearly see that we have an outbound delivery LF assigned to it. To Paraphrase it should only have one billing type and not two ( order related and delivery related) ?
Thanks
Deepak

Hi Deepak
As I explained earlier Physical movement of goods has nothing to do with order related billing or delivery related billing
But where there is physical movement of goods it will be mostly delivery related billing
In order related billing like cash sales there is physical movement of goods
In third party sales the delivery is done by third party vendor not by us
So the classic example of involving physical movement of goods in order related billing is CASH SALES
Order related billing means the sales order is the source doc for reference for billing
Take cash sale Order type is CS upto ECC 5 and order type is BV from ECC 6 onwards
CASH SALES process is Order type Cs---del type BV --- Billing type BV
When you make the billing for cash sale with billing type BV Your sales order will be referred
Means in copy controls VTFA you will have controls between order typeCS--- billing type BV in standard
There wont be any keys defined in VTFL between del type BV---Billing type BV
In rush order or standard order you take process is OR-LF-F2
Means when you invoice a standard order your del doc is referred
Means in copy controls VTFL you will have controls between Del type LF --- billing type F2 in standard
There wont be any keys defined in VTFA between Order type OR---Billing type F2
So Dont confuse yourself on physical movement of goods
Order related and delivery related is controlled by item category
As i said earlier in a same order say OR you can have 2 items one with order related billing and another with delivery related billing and both these items may involve delivery
If that happens at the time of billing there will be invoice split and the order related billing will be invoiced separately with the billing type proposed in VOV8 for order related billing and
delivery related billing will be invoiced separately with the billing type proposed in VOV8 for delivery related billing
That is why you find billing type for both order related and delivery related billing in VOV8
Friend i have explained you to my fullest capacity
Regards
Raja

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