Scrap posting in CO11N

Dear all,
This is a requirement regarding scrap posting in CO11N.
When some qty is entered in scrap field , the qty shd be moved/posted to with a scrap matl code to a scrap storage location through 531 movmt type.
Which user exit wil be suitable for this application?
pls suggest.
Regards,
Sheik

Hi,
Check with your abaper which of the below can meet your need.
User Exit
CONFPP01 PP order conf.: Determine customer specific default values
CONFPP02 PP order conf.: Customer specific input checks 1
CONFPP03 PP order conf.: Cust. specific check after op. selection
CONFPP04 PP order conf.: Customer specific input checks 2
CONFPP05 PP order conf.: Customer specific enhancements when saving
CONFPP06 PP Order Confirmations: Actual Data Transfer
BADi
WORKORDER_CONFIRM
WORKORDER_GOODSMVT
Regards,
Vivek

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