SCRAP QUANTITY IN ORDER CONFIRMATION

Hi,
When i confirm an order there is a field called scrap quantity. Supposse there is an order for 10 qty. Now while confirming the order i give in the yield field as 10 & 10 in scrap quantity where will it effect...
Will it effect costing of the order.
Can i do like this because my order is for 10 quantity & i am confirming & scarping the same quantity.
Please guide as i want to use the same field..
I am in go live satge.Please help.
regards
jimmy

Hi JIMMY
As per your question smiltensly you can't book both as yield and scrap with same order quantity.Either you book 10 in yield or in scrap or total of this yield and scrap is equal to production order quantity.That means if order quantity is 10 then you may book 6as yield and 4as scrap.Once you have entered scrap in CO11N no material movements are automatically posted in the system. By confirming scrap you are only reducing the balance confirmable qty in the order. The order costs would increase since you would have posted goods issue for input material without goods receipt for finished goods.
Now you want to realize the value of the scrap produced then you would have to do a goods receipt of the scrap as a by-product using movt type 531 in MB1C for the scrap material number.
It can also automate posting of this if a percentage scrap is know. You can do this in BoM by specifing a negative qty against the scrap material number. Then if the backlash is activated every time confirmation is done the 531 movement line will come automatically in goods movements screen. If no scrap arises then you have to delete that line and post the confirmation.
Hope this helps ...if so reward points and close this thread.
regards
Rajesh

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Hi
1. What is quantity of the waste material you get as by product? Do not you wan it to be handled as scrap? What is the %age of scrap you have defined in the BOM for the material? You wll have some data regarding this. Or else how do you arrive at decission that after subcontract processes the waste you are paying him, Is it umpsum basis or material quantity basis. The best way is to have a Subcontract PO, but for that even though you do not weigh the watse quanity you must be having so historical data for the waste quantity generated and the conversion of the sane to other SFG , definitely you can arrive that on a pro_rata basis. Have a Code for the waste mateial. Release Subcontract PO for SFG which is what you get back, and issue the components( waste) to subcontractor.
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3. I would not liketo suggest 3 rd option as that becomes much comlicated for a simple operation.
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Hi,
we doing cofirmation in co11 with auto goods receipt(last operation).
Is it possible to get production order list which having scrap quantity in COOIS
thanks in advance

Dear,
Once you have entered scrap in CO11N no material movements are automatically posted in the system. By confirming scrap you are only reducing the balance confirmable qty in the order. The order costs would increase since you would have posted goods issue for input material without goods receipt for finished goods
Now you want to realize the value of the scrap produced then you would have to do a goods receipt of the scrap as a by-product using movt type 531 in MB1C for the scrap material number
In COOIS,I dont think you will get all your required details.
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REL CNF DLV.
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Hi Gurus,
The Issue I have at hand is related to a PRODUCTION ORDER CONFIRMATION INCORRECT. Ok here is what happened. A production order was put in for quantity of 3. But the confirmation against this order was posted for 100,XXX,XXX. This was scrapped and only 3 was confirmed and received into the inventory (So inventory movement is fine, only for 3). But the initial confirmation of 100,XXX,XXX caused posting for Labor & OH based on the activities to sec. cost elements. So now what happened is there are posting against sec. cost elements in millions, which have been settled to cost centers. Obviously this is incorrect.
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3. Can we do manual Journal entry to resolve discrepancy (But that would be a real posting).
Also would had it been the best solution to just cancel the prod order with the wrong confirmation and re-issue another in the period of occurrence. If you need more information to provide help please let me know.
I am new to product costing. Please help.
Thank in Advance!!!

Hi Ajay,
I have some follow up questions, please help. Thank You so much. I am sure I will be able to resolve soon, now. Thanks
2. The manual entries that were posted, can they be reversed, even though period is closed? You mentioned reverse in same
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Q. Yes ok but in KB21N there is no sending order, there is only receiving order. Please help
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Q. re-run period end steps, can you elaborate a little more. Thanks
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