Scrollable frame in PDF-based folio prevents page swipe

Can someone confirm for me that scrollable frames in a PDF-based folio prevent one from being able to use that area to swipe to the next page?
Thanks,

I confirm too.
We publish a weekly magazine for iPad2 and iPad3.
iPad2 folio is a jpg one, and we use pdf format for iPad3.
Scrollable full page contents work fine on iPad2 but prevent swiping on iPad3.
Our solution: creating "cold zones" on the edges of the pages using buttons (setting them "navto://nowhere"). I think it's the simpliest way to make it work.

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When we create image based folio and unzip the folio and see , we see all the non-interactive elements exported as jpeg and png.
I would like to understand when the non-interactive contents are exported as png and jpeg.
In similar lines , when we create pdf based folio and unzip the folio, we see only base Content (IN Folio Spec terms, assetRendition ) and assets of ScrollableFrame Overlay ( IN FolioSpec terms, overlayAsset) as pdfs.
For rest of the overlays, the non-interactive content are still png/jpeg.
I would like to understand the rationale behind it.
Or is there any settings to force PDF for all overlays.

With the exception of MSOs and scrollable content, overlays are rasterized. Scrollable frames are exported as vector by default. MSOs raster by default.

Scrollable Frames canceled out by video on page

I had wired up a scrollable frame (tab) at the bottom of my page. Tested and everything works fab. I added a layer above this scrollable area and dropped several video clips into the layout. Those clips are part of the main page content.
As soon as I did this, the container and the scrollable content placed into that container doesn't render when the file is Published/tested. It fails on both Desktop and iPad Viewer.
If I hide the layers contain the video clips the scrollable frame content returns and works just fine. Is this a known issue that video even being present on the same page kills scrollable content?
New to using scrollable frames along side video content, and I haven't tried the myriad of hacks to get it to work. Want to start with the obvious questions... should this work?
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I've made some progress, and have also made some odd discoveries.
So, I was able to make the MSO work - but it doesn't work consistently. I went back to the original approach of putting the tab on the first state, and the videos on the next 3 states, This way the tab starts things off, and as soon as someone taps the invisible buttons to jump to any video, those videos play fullscreen.
The trick is a tap to return to the first state where you are then able to drag the tab (scrollable frame) up. It might trip a few users, but is a trade off, where most people will just try to drag it again and will have success. Acceptable for this secondary content.
This page is the last page in a 9 page stack. When I "Preview" the page on Desktop or direct to iPad. the page loads up by itself and everything works great!
However, when I upload the whole article/stack to the DPS server, and download it. I of course have to swipe down from page 1. When I arrive on page 9, the videos work just fine, but the tab is gone on the first state. It doesn't render at all.
Once you click to a video, you see the "dummy" tab appear on those other states. Clicking in that place holder area to return to the first state where the tab should be removes the "dummy" tab, and the actual tab doesn't render.
As you can imagine - this is maddening!
Thoughts I have... could something on the other pages be messing it up? Possibly, but every page in the rest of the article have static content, and 1 scrollable frames. No other videos OR multistates. And all the other scrollable frames work 100% of the time.
Is there a limit to the number of scrollable areas and I've hit it? I'm going to start trashing pages one at a time to see if I strike a nerve. But I'm grasping at straws.
If you think of something, all suggestions are welcome.
Thanks!
Steve

Problem with V19 Scrollable Frame

I have a magazine that worked find on V18 of producer tools, since I upgraded to V19 I am having ptoblems.
I have a standard page size 2048x1536 (iPad 3), and I have the whole page set as a scrollable frame with a background placed behind it. Then all my content for the page is pasted into the scrollable frame which runs much lower than the 2048 page length. You can then scroll the page within the scrollable frame rather than having a long page to scroll down. This also creates a nice layering effect where the content moves on top of a static background.
This worked fine for me on V18 producer tools, but now when I load my magazine onto my iPad, I'm scrolling through articles and when I hit the page with the scrollable frame you can no longer scroll left or right and you're stuck on the page...
Any idea how I can fix this as I have a client that has seen and likes the layering effect? Last thing I want to do is have to remove it and just make a long page.

Which totally sucks, BTW.
If you use JPG or PNG then it works but you lose the razor sharp text and pinch and zoom that PDF provides.
I really don't get this one, either. Especially since the scrollable frames option gives you the ability to make it vertical only. That should eliminate any "confusion" as to which way to you want to scroll and which way you want to swipe.
Bob

Can't swipe to next article on scrollable frame?

Hi,
I'm not sure what's happening here. I've got a page with a scrolling frame which covers the whole page, frame is set to scrolling, scroll direction is vertical only. I've just updated some of the scrollabe content and now when I view on iPad I can't swipe to the next article, the swipe to next article worked fine yesterday, all content and links work OK I just can't get off the page now... any suggestions?

So Okay,
Excuse the lame design (only 10 minutes of my lunch break left)
So I quickly mocked up a 768x1024 doc (Horizontal)
Made a Scrollable frame 732x952px to sit on the page bleed at the bottom and within left and right margins
Created 4000px Deep worth of fake content (Grouped and pasted into the scrolling frame)
Set to vertical scroll only
Popped a stickly overlay on top and a background image underneath
All in seperate layers.
Imported as a PNG article
and here are the results.
All images are screen grabs and the last demonstrates that even with a scrolling frame this long - if you import as png you can still horizontally swipe off it
All's good!
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Buttons underneath a Scrollable Frame

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Is it possible to have object states/buttons underneath a scrollable frame?
I want a title page that is swiped to the side revealing buttons underneath...
Visually I can set it up, but as soon as you've swiped the title page to the side you can see the buttons but can't touch them.
Any work arounds?
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This is normal, the interactive overlays will respect their layered order. Especially If you cover another object completely as with your scrollable frame.
Why not add the buttons to the left or right of your title page design and group it as one object that is then cut and pasted-into your scroll region. That way when you swipe away the title page it brings the buttons into view.

Scrollable frame prevents swipe to next page

Hello
Does anybody else find when they create a PDF format for the iPad that scrollable frames don't work as well as in auto format.
I have placed a large scrollable frame which takes up 3/4 of my page. When I swipe to the next page the scrollable frame wont let me swipe?
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bugs and behaviour like this is a suspicious sign of a wrong architecture,
too many cooks/programmers ruining the menu (a German spoke word), or
incomplete testing.
DPS is a massive complex system.but for these, data models and information
architecture are critical to success.
I see movement at adobe here. there are more and more people from adobe
responding to problems, actually engineering on these forums and more
concise product management. one can feel that.
but sometimes, these "funny" things happen... they don't matter to the big
publishers still on sprint 15 or enterprise level publishers with their own
track if DPS (visible in the cryptic version number for the WIRED reader
and others).
but they matter to the designers, makers, thinkers and people on the
bleeding edge of DPS actually trying to produce stuff and stumble upon
these things.
—Johannes
(mobil gesendet)

Failed to load the folio. Pan Only, Scrollable Frame Overlay

Hello All,
I get the error "Failed to load the folio." when previewing a page in the Content Viewer with a scrollable frame overlay using this technique described here:
Create scrollable frames using Pan Only:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/digitalpubsuite/using/WS67cb9e293e2f1f605e8ea44412b13edc5ec-80 00.html
I checked the KB but the solution to remedy the problem is vague. I am not using any offending characters and what's odd is that I can pan and zoom images without a problem. When I try to scroll the text I get the error.
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Or maybe the current tools/Content Viewer need to be removed and installed again? Again, what files need to be removed?
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D.

Hey Peter,
Thanks for the link. I have tried both techniques, the layer and the paste into and both yeild the same result with the "Failed to load the folio." error. I also forgot to mention that I am using CS5.
D.

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Scrollable Frame issue on iPad 'Adobe Viewer'

I'm wondering if anyone else has this issue when previewing a folio with the iPad viewer.
The issue is when I have a full (or even part) page scrollable frame on a page and once I have vertically swiped/scrolled to the end of the scrollable frame, then the next vertical swipe seems to stick much more than usual and requires a much longer/sustained swipe to get it to move on to the next page.
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It also does not fix the issue to select 'raster' rather than 'vector' in export options within the 'scrollable frame' folio overlay panel.
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There are multiple reasons for choosing HTML articles instead of indd.
1. size. imagine around 20 pages of this content. the background pattern alone is in html one 4x8px gif repeated from HTMLResources, whereas in indesign it would be a picture of the whole canvas on each page on every 20 pages.
2. stylesheets. If i feel that the headers need to be in a different font or size, i can change the one stylesheet in my HTMLResources instead of opening 20 indd files.
3. Speed in desking job. It takes me not even a quarter of the time to insert all the content into the html articles compared to indd. Indesign is a much clunkier and heavier program to use than notepad.
I could go on, but I guess its no point in this thread..

Scrollable Frame solution for EPUB Fixed Layout

Hi,
I have found a solution (or, rather a hack) which allows us to create scrolling frames for EPUB Fixed Layouts.
You can find the exported EPUB, as well as my InDesign file on my Dropbox: EPUB scroll.
This solution has some weak points and has only been tested in iBooks on an iPad with iOS 8, but here's how it works:
Create two text frames (one as big as your text requires, and one which will be the container [tip: make the container a bit wider than the text frame])
Cut the big text frame, select the smaller container frame, and Edit->Paste into
Right click on the container, select Object Export Options, choose EPUB and HTML and enter "subchapter" as epub:type:
Open a text editor and create a new CSS file. For CSS code, see below
Export as Fixed layout EPUB. In the export dialog box, select the CSS tab and add the previously created CSS file
Done!
CSS code:
div[*|type = "subchapter"] {
position: relative;
div[*|type = "subchapter"] > div {
overflow: auto;
As you see, steps 1 and 2 are essentialy the same as for creating a scrollable frame folio overlay.
It’s not perfect, and this solution is just a proof-of-concept, but it should get you going.
An obvious problem is that we use basic HTML scrollbar, which is not being displayed in e-book readers such as iBooks on the iPad. Hence, the user has now idea how long the scrollable content stretches. This could probably be solved with a more complex, JS-based solution.
Also, the gradient feather at the bottom (which is intended to create a "fade-out effect) seems not to export well. This one should be easy to solve, placing another rectangle with a gradient in it. But I’m not sure if transparency exports well, and haven’t tested it.
Feel free to use, and improve, this hack!
Thanks,
/Jacob

Thank you Uwe,
I look and hold you aware of your solution in an environment EPUB
Patrick
Dr Patrick Dhont
Le 29 janv. 2015 à 11:52, Laubender <[email protected]> a écrit :
Scrollable Frame solution for EPUB Fixed Layout
created by Laubender <https://forums.adobe.com/people/Laubender> in InDesign EPUB - View the full discussion <https://forums.adobe.com/message/7143179#7143179>
@Papo – then I would suggest not a scrollable frame, but an MSO you can click through showing the whole text.
1. Do some text frames the same size
2. Thread all the text frames to one story
3. Align the text frames
4. Make a MSO out of it:
The text frames are still threaded and text can easily flow between them.
5. Do some navigation buttons to control the MSO states:
"Go To First State", "Go To Next State", "Go To Previous State" etc.
Later you can change the text (add or remove, do different formatting) flowing in that story through the states.
A very flexible solution. Ok, it's not a scrollable frame, but something like that…
Uwe
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Double speed in scrollable frame?

Hy everybody i'd like to know how can i make a scrollable frame with two columns with different speed...
Anybody can help me?
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You have PDF folio, but the text in scrollframe is bitmap. You must turn on option tlhat let you use vector text in scrollframes. Folio format version needs to be greater than 22.
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