[SOLVED] Systemd forcing laptop brightness down to zero.

Can somebody please, pretty please, explain to me how I can tell systemd to STOP turning off my laptop brightness half-way during boot?
Started Load/Save Screen Backlight Brightness of acpi_video0.
Turns brightness down to zero. According to the man page:
[email protected] is a service that restores the display backlight brightness at early-boot and saves it at shutdown. On disk, the backlight brightness is stored in /var/lib/backlight/.
On my Arch it is actually in /var/lib/systemd/backlight/acpi0. I tried modifying the value to anything between 1 and 100 but it the file is reset to 0 every boot, maybe this is normal.
I also tried to disable the damn systemd-backlight service but it re-enables itself every boot too.
Please can somebody help me, I'm pulling my hair out. I have tried various kernel parameters and acpi_backlight=vendor works but forces brightness to 100% and I can't change it. (unless of course if I force /sys/class/... which is not a solution)
Last edited by beanaroo (2013-10-12 07:30:49)

It definitely isn't normal for it to keep going to 0. Mine currently has the value 12 in it. (My file is /var/lib/systemd/backlight/acpi_video0.) I'm not sure if it makes a difference that I have laptop-mode-tools managing the backlight, though. But I don't see it go to 0 at any point during boot.
That is, unless something somewhere is configuring it this way, this sounds like a bug and the solution you're using a work around. Not suggesting you shouldn't use it, of course, but maybe worth reporting, too?
Last edited by cfr (2013-10-16 02:25:51)

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    Please click the "Kudos, Thumbs Up" at the bottom of this post if you want to say "Thanks" for helping!
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    The Great Deku Tree
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  • I have frequent instances of my Macbook Pro beeping 3 times and then I have to forcefully shut it down by pressing the power button. What is this all about? Please help. Thank you.

    I have frequent instances of my Macbook Pro beeping 3 times and then I have to forcefully shut it down by pressing the power button. What is this all about? Please help. Thank you.
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    0xffffff805e5f3b00 : 0xffffff80002d1208
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    Bluetooth: Version 2.4.5f3, 2 service, 12 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
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    USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, 0x05ac  (Apple Inc.), 0x821a, 0xfa113000 / 8
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    Hmm. The problem still may be the RAM - Apple buys the RAM it puts in its machines from third-party vendors (usually Hynix) so it could be a RAM problem.
    There are a couple of things that you can do yourself before taking your machine into an Apple Store or an AASP... download and run an application named Rember that will run a RAM test for you - let it run for a couple of hours or even overnight. If it turns out that your RAM is faulty, Rember will let you know. If it is faulty, then you have a couple of options - replace the RAM yourself or (particularly if you're under warranty still) take the machine to an Apple Store or AASP and have them replace the RAM.
    If Rember finds no fault with the RAM, then you'll need to take it into an Apple Store/AASP and get a free diagnosis on the machine. Three beeps do usually indicate faulty RAM, but if it tests good with Rember you likely have another problem - it could be something as simple as the RAM, somehow, not seated correctly or signs of another hardware problem.
    Run Rember first... call back with results.
    Good luck,
    Clinton

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