Speed change affects whole timeline????

When I change the speed a clip in my timeline, it shifts my whole timeline out of sync. Im sure this is just a setting but i cant figure it out. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

thats how it works db
you have a clip which already exists in the timeline, it has an in point and an out point and hence a duration. changing its speed will therefore change the duration, making it longer if you slow it down, or shorter if you speed it up. any changes you make will obviously ripple through the rest of the timeline.
its best to adopt a new approach. change the speed before you place the clip in the timeline
a neat trick is to use the match frame to source function ...
park your playhead on the first frame of the clip in the timeline that you want to change
press cmd-opt-f to match frame the source into the viewer
press cmd-j to open the speed dialog to adjust as wanted
press f-11 to replace the timeline instance with the slower/faster version in the viewer
hope it helps
edit -- check up Vol III : Chapter 16 (Page 307) for the nitty gritty

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This is the way it works, and you need to adjust your workflow around it. If it didn't work this way, if you sped up the shot, you'd have a hole, and if you slowed it down, it'd overwrite your footage after it. It adjusts the section it is in because that is how it is designed. Don't like it, do things differently.
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2) drop the clip at the tail of the sequence, double click on it, then adjust it, then move it to where you want.
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I know what you mean, I end up with an extra frame if I set an in and out point then insert/overwrite replace or superimpose.
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I agree you should be able to change the clip speed without affecting the duration.
The alternative is as Andy described, fit to fill, here is an alternitive way of doing/describing this process;
adjust the out point of the clip to the new point you want,
move the clip out of the space on the timeline where you want the clip with the speed change to go,
place the CTI in the space where you want the new clip to go,
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drag the clip from the viewer to the canvas and the fit to fill option will appear along with all of the other options,
this will also do what you want, I believe there is no one click solution.
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