Split Audio / Stereo Pairs

I need to export a Quicktime with 4 channel Split audio, Channels 1&2 as a stereo pair, channels 3&4 as a stereo pair. Will CS6 do this? It looks like I can export mono channels, but not what I need. Currently using Final Cut 7 to do this, would like to eliminate the extra step and do it out of Premiere.

You can get stereo track for rear channels via Adobe Audition.
Have no idea if it's easier for you or not.

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Why do voice-overs split up my audio stereo pairs?

I'm using FCP 5.1 in OS 10.5.8.
Sometimes after I do voice-overs, I discover that all the stereo pairs on the audio tracks are split apart, and often widely separated vertically. To get them back together on adjacent tracks, I have to un-pair them in the Modify menu, push them back together on the audio tracks, and then re-pair them.
This unwanted splitting-up of audio stereo-pairs is a nuisance. How can I make them stay together?
Tom

Thanks Meg! From now on, I'll do as you suggest and set the target audio track for voiceovers to be a blank one beneath all audio tracks that have anything on them. The project I'm working on has scads of stacked-up sound effects, so I have to aim voiceovers clear down to track A17, which is the first blank one I have! But that way they won't split up any stereopairs on the tracks above them.
I still don't see why the voiceover clips have to split up the stereo pairs to the right and left of them, when they're going onto a blank space on an audio track, but I guess that's just a peculiarity of the program. You've shown me that to prevent such trouble, a voiceover clip needs to appear on a completely blank track of its own, clear of all other audio clips. Then it can be moved up to wherever you want it to go on other tracks.
I was stymied at first when I couldn't get the A1 and A2 patches to appear in the patch panel, so that I could set the target track for voiceovers. They just weren't there. I finally figured out that to get the patches to appear, I have to double-click on any video clip in the Browser. That makes them show up.
Thanks again,
Tom

How to make two mono audio tracks into a stereo pair?

My video clip, brought over into Premiere CS6 from Final Cut Pro 5, has the usual left and right audio tracks, but in Premiere they are not linked into a stereo pair. Thus the volume level has to be adjusted separately in each track.
In Final Cut, I can quickly convert two independent audio tracks into a stero pair by selecting the tracks and then going to the menu Modify > Stereo Pair. I can't figure out how to do this in Premiere.
When two audio tracks are not linked, the volume level has to be adjusted separately in each track, which wastes time. But after two tracks are linked into a Stereo Pair in Final Cut, adjusting either track adjusts them both, together. That's what I want to do now in Premiere.
So, how do I make two separate audio tracks into a linked Stereo Pair in Premiere?
Tom

Hi Tom,
Tom77 wrote:
I need to do in my videos that I either can't do in Premiere or that require involved workarounds like this, things that I can do instantly
I used to think like you do. These aren't workarounds, per se. The issue is that Premiere Pro is a different program, so you have to approach some things slightly differently.
Actually, Premiere Pro's audio capability is more like a DAW than Final Cut was, and more powerful too, so if you know that workflow it makes more sense. A lot of FCP people don't have training in programs like ProTools or Audition, so it's more difficult for folks like yourself (and me, too) to catch on. Once you learn it, though, you begin to see its power.
Tom77 wrote:
things that I can do instantly with the flick of a keyboard command in Final Cut, such as link and unlink audio tracks.
In Premiere Pro CC, you can link and unlink audio and video tracks with a keyboard shortcut for "Linked Selection." You have to create it in your Keyboard Shortcuts dialog box, but it works just like the one in FCP. Make it Shift + L if you like.
Tom77 wrote:
Not to mention the fact that I can have as many projects open in Final Cut as I want, and copy and paste between them. Each open project becomes a tab on the timeline, and I can jump beween projects by just clicking on their tabs. I was shocked when I tried to open two projects in Premiere to find that it only allows one at a time to be open. That seems really primitive--
Again, you can achieve what you want (copying and using items from other projects), you just have to go about it differently. All you do is navigate to the other project files in the Media Browser and import items that you need in this fashion. So, no, you don't have more than one project open at a time, but you got what you wanted, stuff from another projects in your current project. That works for me, anyway.
Again, Premiere Pro is a different program. You can achieve the same goals, but sometimes have to go about it differently. Some things are faster, some slower. Some are easier to learn, some harder. Hopefully, you see my point.
I need video generators to make arrows, circles, squares, etc. and transitions such as edge wipes and clock wipes to animate them, all to point out and emphasize things that I'm demonstrating and explaining in my videos. Premiere has no such generators, nor are there any third-party plug-ins available to add them, that I've been able to find.
Do you know about the Titler? It has a lot of useful shapes. You can also create shapes in After Effects and Photoshop and import them. The shapes you make in those programs can look a lot better than the stock FCP effects.
There are lots of third party effects, some that have generators. Check out Boris Continuum, FX Factory, CoreMelt, Film Impact, and more.
There are pitifully few transitions in Premiere at all (the Mac version) compared to Final Cut.
I'm really not a transitions person, and I find the FCP transitions looking tired anyway. The only one I really need is a white flash and I can either create it, or use a third party flash effect. If you need cool, modern transitions, check out Film Impact or the other third party plug in foundries I mentioned. There is an Edge Wipe transition, called "Wipe." If you need feathering, check out the Wipe Effect, which you can keyframe to look like a transition.
More and more I would like to be moving completely into Premiere, but I keep running into these inadequacies in the program, these roadblocks, for my purposes at least.
The more you work with it, the less you'll be working with FCP. That's what most people are saying anyway. Sure, there are minor annoyances associated with learning a new app, but you also take the good along with it. I suggest you just dive right in. It may take longer at first, but you can get your speed up in time.
I have no doubt that sometime in the future Premiere will become everything that I want it to be, and at that time I can finally abandon Final Cut for good, as I wish I could do right now.
I also came from FCP, taught FCP for nearly a decade, wrote a book about FCP, help start the first FCPUG, worked at Apple on two versions of FC Studio, so I do know what you are going through. Just keep at it and keep posting here. I'll be glad to help you with any workarounds or confusion related to moving over from FCP.
Thanks,
Kevin

Can't capture audio in stereo pair

I have FCE HD 3.0 and the audio capture default has always been stereo pair. Just now, since having to trash preferences, the default capture is now mono. Thanks to the forum, I know how to modify>link stereo in the timeline, but could anyone explain how I could reset preference to capture audio stereo?

You can't.

3 audio tracks (centre,right,çeft) : How to make stereo pairs?

Hi,
Working with one video track and three audio tracks (recorded as Centre, Left and Right) for each clip.
Having problems when I do overlaps or fades manually. I need to treat each track separately as not possible to make them a stereo pair.
Should I duplicate the Centre track and make it a stereo pair and make another stereo pair with Left/Right.
What should be the easiest way/workaround to treat/link the audio tracks so that sound transitions like manual overlaps/fades can be done?
Thanx

Hi-
Do your manual fade on one track of the three. Select the track with the manual fade and type command+C to copy it. Select the other two tracks and type Option+V. A window will open that will let you choose to paste only your level settings, pan, or content or any combination of those.
If you have elaborate manual mixing you might want to razor blade just the section of the the three audio clips you want to apply the sound transition to - so as not to disturb other parts of the mix.
Hope this helps.
MtD

AUDIO - CAN'T SEPERATE STEREO PAIR?

I have a stereo track 48/16 and I can't seperate to edit tracks independantly. The STEREO PAIR option, what I usually use, is grey and can't be selected, all edits affect both tracks. The stereo pair shows up under one tab as stated in the manual. Thanks for your help!

You're missing the point. All of this is from within FCP only. The clip in its captured state has paired audio. You can't separate them from within FCP. You can only tell FCP to work with them unlinked. It's called "non-destructive editing" which means the choices you make in FCP do not alter the original media. (Except when you do a Media Manager operation.)
Unlinking the stereo pair is a timeline option only. The viewer shows you original media when you click from the browser. It shows you the timeline state when you load it from the timeline. If you load it into the viewer while it's linked, you will have it linked in the viewer. If you unlink it first, and THEN load it into the viewer, it will be unlinked, and you will get only one audio track loaded.
Maybe it would help if we knew what your end goal is. There's no reason to NEED the unlink feature in the viewer. It works perfectly fine in the timeline. Don't reinvent the wheel. Learn how to use the tools that exist.

IMX with two stereo pairs audio setting?

Hello.
I am trying to build a Compressor preset to export from 1080i ProRes, two stereo pairs, to PAL IMX, same audio setup. I can do it within FCP7 and FCPX, but I'd like to be able to build the Compressor setting as well. So far I can only build the destination file with one stereo pair. Any help?
Thank you and best regards
Fabrizio D'Agnano
Rome, Italy

OK, I've found a workaround following a tip from Jeremy Garchow at Creative Cow. If the clip to be converted has the two stereo pairs, you can create your own IMX setting in Compressor choosing "audio pass through" in the audio settings in the inspector window.
Fabrizio D'Agnano
Rome, Italy

Is there a way to select multiple audio tracks and make all of them stereo pair at the same time?

I selected multiple tracks, pressed "option L" but was not able to make multiple clips stereo pair at the same time.

If I remember correctly it is not possible modify a group of selected clips on the timeline with the Stereo Pair command - unless all the selected clips have exactly the same properties - such as being linked to video clips, etc. So you have to manually go through and select the dual mono tracks you want to pair individually or in smaller groups to be able to apply the Stereo Pair command.
If you select a bunch (a couple) of clips, and go to the menu Modify, you will see if Stereo Pair is grayed out or not. If it is grayed out, then you can't apply it to those clips as a group, but you probably will be able to apply it if you make smaller selections of clips.
MtD

Audio Stereo track gone

Working FCP3, Suddenly not able to put complete clip into timeline, only video and one track of audio. Second audio track has disappeared. Everything worked fine earlier, I did some audio filter work on a few clips but don't think that caused the problem. Also have an older audio clips where one track is ahead of the other by a few seconds and nothing I can do seems to bring them back together??

If you are talking about placing a clip that you know has both tracks into a timeline and only one track is coming is try this:
Make sure the track source dohickies for both audio tracks are connected to a destination track. They are the little square things on the left side of the track that look either connected or disconnected (look just to the right of the green audio mute buttons). Both need to be connected for both audio tracks to come in.
To deal with your mismatched audio try this:
The audio tracks need to be disconnected from the video and to be NOT a stereo pair. Try Shift + L to unlink the video from the audio, then Option + L to turn the stereo pair to dual mono.
Once the audio tracks are dual mono, you should be able to slip them back into sync.
Apply the toggles in reverse order to return the dual mono to a stereo pair and to relink the audio to the video.
cheers,
x

Multiple Stereo Pairs in Compressor

Hi,
I'm having a problem with exporting fcp projects and getting the correct audio on output.
The fcp project has multiple, normally 2 stereo pairs (4 tracks in total). When I send the project to compressor I have a preset setup to create a quicktime mov, using the mpeg imx 625/50 as the video codec, and getting the correct audio codec is where I am having a problem, if I select pass through as the audio setting. When I apply it to the project it changes to 3.1 (L,R,lfe,C) Linear PCM, 32 bit, 48k,(the PCM and 48k at least are correct the res is not) it appears to me when pass through is selected it selects what it thinks is the correct settings that it has. Of all the settings that are available everything can be changed apart from the channel configuration, there is no option available that gives me the correct result. 4.0 (L,R,C,Cs) comes closest (audio levels remain the same, stereo pairing is lost, becomes 4 discreet channels in fcp)
Has anyone encountered the same problem? Anyone have any ideas how I can get this correctly configured?
I need the output to be(taken from an existing file exported in fcp in quicktime)
Apple MPEG IMX 625/50 (50 Mb/s), 720 x 576, Millions
24-bit Integer (Little Endian), Stereo, 48.000 kHz
24-bit Integer (Little Endian), Stereo, 48.000 kHz
Thanks in advance

Ben, who has a pretty good batting average round here, probably meant to say "That's the H.264 limitation when using Compressor."
Multiple audio tracks in H.264 seems to only be possible using third party applications but I'm making this statement only after superficial research, never tried it myself and I have only limited experience with Episode, never even heard of the other products you mention.
Your experience with multiple track output in H.264 trumps that of the elitists and I appreciate you starting the thread, Steve; I learn something new here every day if I pay attention.
bogiesan

Premiere CS 5 - discrete split audio quick time outputs

I am a relatively new user to CS5. I have a background with Avid Media Composer and Final Cut Pro.
I need to send an edit of my movie to a music composer. The standard for this is to have the audio split in the Quicktime file - dialog and effects panned left; music panned right.
I can mix the tracks in Premiere this way but all the output settings - mono vs. stereo, etc - have all the audio tracks mixed into the L channel and the R channel.
After searching the forums and multiple outputs I don't think there is a way to do this in CS5.
A few questions:
1) is it possible to make split audio outputs in CS5?
2) CS5.5 has more features, especially to send to Audition - does CS5.5 do split audio w or w/out the use of Audition?
3) is this on Adobe development list?
4) is there a work around?
So far I really liked CS5 but not being able to make split audio outputs severely limits the ability of the product to be used in high end productions when you are dealing with sound houses and music composers who expect this to be standard.
Both Avid and FCP (the pre-X versions I've used) can do this.
Any advice?
thank in advance
-B

all the output settings - mono vs. stereo, etc - have all the audio tracks mixed into the L channel and the R channel.
Maybe I'm missing something here but, isn't that what you wanted? Two separate channels?

Why does compressor settings of aac audio, stereo, create 2 channel mono from 2 discrete audio channel movies?

Why does compressor settings of aac audio, stereo, create 2 channel mono from 2 discrete audio channel movies?

well depending on how your audio is brought into your system you can select it as two streams of mono or a stereo pair. In reality, unless it's mixed in stereo, that's just two streams of mono locked together. Other streams brought in via other means, can have a lot more audio channels, e.g. 8, 16, 24.
In your case, with what you're doing, two separate channels works best, so you can control the levels of two very different audio sources. If, for instance, you were taking the feed from the mixing board during a concert, you might want their stereo out. Otherwise you might be dealing with the 1.2 zillion channels that they're mixing live.
I like separating the tracks coming in. I work with people who prefer to lock them together. Locking means the tracks move together during editing. Ok, fine, but I'm usually dealing with different audio sources, like you are: a camera mic (safety on location) and a close mic (shotgun, lav). Or I have a shotgun source and a lav. I want to determine the best source audio for the shot. Sometimes it's a lav, sometimes a different feed from somewhere else, sometimes the shotgun, and sometimes a mix of two sources. But if they're locked together and pre-set to come out evenly from both speakers there no way for me to make a determination. The other guys like to cut and figure out the audio later.
To each his or her own. . .

Stereo Pairs

I have a question in regards stereo pairs is there any way around that when creating a stereo pair from two audio clip that final cut will not take the audio level settings from the clip above. I am doing mainly weddings and we use two wireless mics one on the left and one on the right channel, So I set audio levels etc for each track but in the end I want to put on a parametric filter to limit noise etc instead of doing each track i thought i can make a stereo pair out of it but as soon I do that it will take the audio levels from the top track and changes the bottom track. checked the manual and it says it in there it would do that but is there a way around, I tried nesting the clip but not to sure if my computer is not fast enough 4GB ram and a MacBook pro i always need to render the clip and when I put an audio filter on it every change I do i need to re render. Any advise

Making a stereo pair out of two tracks just to add filters is the wrong reason to make a stereo pair. Since you want to keep the levels, and possibly the pan settings for each clip, add the filter you want only to the clips that need it. Add it to one, then copy that clip; select all other you want to add it to, right-click on one and select Paste Attributes, then check the Audio Filters button.
-DH

Audio stereo level adjustments

Hi...I'm working on an edit with just two audio tracks, L + R, audio and video loaded straight from the camera via Log and Transfer.
I have needed to adjust audio levels up and down to what's happening on the video and the only way I can do this is by adjusting the L & R tracks individually, I can't get both of the tracks up in the Viewer window simutaneously, like a stereo pair.
Video and audio tracks are linked.
There's obviously a setting somewhere I've missed because I do recall being able to adjust both tracks together at one time....
Can anyone tell me how to set this up please...
FCP Studio 7.0.3.
Thanks
PM

select the tracks, go to the modify menu and make sure the tracks are both linked and stereo pair.
Also, you can always copy and paste attributes if necessary. Copy the track with the correct audio level, select the clip you want to adjust and option-v paste attributes and make sure the correct items are checked.

Split Audio Broadcast Levels

Hey, guys. I'm cutting my first project for broadcast, and I have a question about split audio levels. My sequence is set to the usual -6dB ceiling, but when I convert from stereo to dual mono and split the music and dialogue tracks, the levels suddenly jump up 6 dB. Why is that? I've had to lower everything to -12dB in order to compensate, and I want to make sure that I'm doing it right.
Also, do I need to pan the bars and tone, or should I leave them in stereo?
Thanks, and happy holidays.

Well, it is true that every broadcaster has different specs for audio. Once had to do a show for Starz that also aired on MSNBC and local NBC... the specs for all were different. Video and audio...all different. Made it kinda expensive to deal with...almost restrictively so. We had to tell them that for this to be economical we needed a consensus... and they gave us some leeway.
Thank goodness.
Shane

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