String paragraph tags in cross-ref format

Is there a way to string together Paragraph tags in a cross-reference format?
I have a document with two Paragraph tags: ManualTitle and ManualSubtitle. In another document, I would like to insert a cross-ref to the first document that contains ManualTitle and ManualSubtitle.
This is what I tried to no avail:
See <$paratext[ManualTitle]> <$paratext[ManualSubtitle]> for more information.
Because I have to select a Paragraph format when applying a cross-reference, I am only allowed to select either ManualTitle or ManualSubtitle. So...if I select ManualTitle, it only shows the text applied with ManualTitle (which, incidentally, is a variable). If I select ManualSubtitle, it only shows the text applied with ManualSubtitle (which is also a variable).
Do I have to manually concatenate these two by simply making 1 cross-ref for
See <$paratext[ManualTitle]>
and another for
<$paratext[ManualSubtitle]> for more information. ???
Thanks in advance!
Anne

Anne,
In order to reference multiple paratags, you need to first manually
insert a cross-reference marker (and use the titling as the content
for the marker) in the document that contains the Title and Subtitle
tags. The best location for the marker would be at the end of the
sub-title, keeping in mind FM's behaviour of searching backwards from
a specified location to find matches.
Then, in the document that you wish to insert the cross-reference,
make sure that you have the Cross-Reference "Source Type:" set to be
"Cross-Reference Markers". Once you point it to the file with the
titles, the cross-ref dialogue should show you the appropriate marker
target(s). Select that target.
Now you can edit the cross-ref format to include the paragraphs as you
initially tried. FM will now search backwards from the marker location
in the target document to satisfy the criteria of your format request
and find both the ManualSubTitle and ManualTitle paragraphs.

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