Sub-contracting: difference in Accounting

Hi guys,
I am using release 4.7 and we are discussing about 2 different ways to proceed sub-contracting.
1. Sub-contracting is handled only in MM: PR>PO>GR
2. Sub-contracting is handled as an external operation in routing:
Prod.Order>PR>PO>GR>Confirmation of Prod.Order
In particular we would like to understand the different impact these two ways of managing Sub-contracting have in accounting especially in Cost of production and in cost of goods sold.
Could you kindly give me some clarifications?
Thanks in advance
Vir

Hi Sunil,
there is a particular thing I forgot to say that is Material Ledger. In my company we implemented it and all stock materials are managed with standard control key.
So at the end of month there is Variances Analysis and Distribution to materials with multi-level strategy.
What I want to know is if both methods of Sub-contracting fullfil the requirements of cost of production and cost of goods sold reconciliation .
Your precious answer is grateful
Vir

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Thanks for replying. Yes, we use MAP only.
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What is the difference between External processing & Sub-contracting w,r,t PP module

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Operations that are performed by a third party are called external processing operations
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GL account doesnt exist in company code-error in Sub contracting PO.

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3 line items are already recieved to the GL account 490223 which is correct.
for 4 th line item when i am going to do the GR the above error is occuring,
I have checked the FRL setting for Valuation grouping code VB01 with 490237; it should be acually 490223.
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The correct G/L account is 490223, so far posted with. what changes went to production I dont know
Valuation grouping code in obyc is VB01 490237 (at present for FRL)
VB02 490223 (at present fro FRL).
due to which all of a sudden its looking for 490237 which is not correct.
after our EHP5, is this got changed to vice versa?
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Hi All,
I am posting GR for sub contracting PO and found the following entries in the accounting document of GR:
1. Stock Acct. of Finished product
2. GR/ IR Clearing Acct
3. Sub Contracting Charges
4. Change in Sub Contracting Stock
However, I did not see the accounting entries for:
1. Stock Acct. of Spare parts
2. Consumption Acct
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Hi,
Check in GR Document whether line item for component consumption exists with MvT 543, if yes then check whether MAP of material is ZERO.
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BSV     Change in Stock A/c          Cr     5000.00
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WRX     GR/IR Clearing A/c          Cr     1000.00
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Hi,
the blw is the a/cing entry for the sub contract process , here pls tell me how the a/c detemination for Rs 1000 is picking i.e for BSX & BSV..
i knew that FRL & WRX picked based the po price say Rs .200
and GBB & BSX is picked based on the mat master value of the ram mat, which we send to subcontractor.. say Rs 800
i need to know , how the BSX and BSV value is picking?? pls clarify
BSX- stock account finished -
1000(+)
BSV- change in stock -
1000(-)
FRL-external service----
200(+)
WRXGR/IR clearing acct--
200(-)
GBB_VBO- consumption acct raw material sent to vendor-----800(+)
BSX- stock account--
800(-)

in your case , Your Finished material is valuated at MAP with price control "V" , so the total value of material produced will be the sum of the Raw material components consumed and the subcon charges.
Change in stock account is hit when you receive any material from subcontracting .
so BSX entry is "Stock debit " 800 +200 = 1000 (sum of Components consumed and Subcon charges)
BSV Entry is for "Change in stock " credit = 1000 (equivalent to Finished material value)

Sub contract account

Dear Friends,
For subcontracting purchase order at the time of goods reciept for
15 kg of the component COMP-1 at $20/kg = $300
5 pcs of the component COMP-2 at $30/pc = $150
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The subcontract price (50 pcs * $10/pc = $500) and
Value of the components ($300 + $150).
As per the SAP standard the below entry is shown as example. my user is asking when the value of external service is loaded in the
stock account end product as 950 then why again external service account as 500 again debited separately
can anybody explain clearly this entry. because my user is expecting only 1) gr/IR , 2)SEMIFINISHED GOODS(Which is recived from sub contractor) 3) Rawmaterial account( which is issued for sub contract) 4) Raw materail consumption account.
I am unable to explain about external service account and change involving stock accounts. Please give ur valuable time to answer me?
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External service account     500 +
Stock account: end product     950 +
Change involving stocks     950 -
Stock account: comp.     450 -
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Dear,
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        Then in OBYC click on GBB accnt key , then check account modifier VBO . Against valuation classs check the G/Ls . During subcontracting the raw material which gets consumed will hit this G/L account. Suppose we used one Rs 800/- worth of raw material. Then during GR this will be consumed. So inventory credit and Consumption account debit . That consumption account is maintained at this location.
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my client running fg sub contracting (electro plating )cycle through the MRP
after return from vendor with mvt type 105 (543) i check document list with MB51. i found following g/l account effects :
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
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SFG-inventory account = 323055
for sub contract account = 602130
Inventory account = 320010
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Manual Cycle .
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Sub Contract expense = 603000
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my question is why this differance comes ?
if i want gl accounts hit by manual process in MRP process what changes to be made ?

Hi,
Price diffrences arise during valuation @ GR if the material is managed at standard price in MMR.
Also there is one more setting in customizing that for a plant that price differences should or not be posted during GR.
spro-IMGMMInv MGmtGR--price differences for subcontracting at GR
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my client running fg sub contracting (electro plating )cycle through the MRP
after return from vendor with mvt type 105 (543) i check document list with MB51. i found following g/l account effects :
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
SFG-inventory account = 323055
for sub contract account = 602130
Inventory account = 320010
Costs of goods mfg = 602200
but if do whole sub contracting cycle without MRP i can see effect in following G/L a/C:
Manual Cycle .
Inventory account = 320010
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
Price Differance Account = 602155
change in stock = 603010
Sub Contract expense = 603000
SFG-inventory account = 323055
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
my question is why this differance comes ?
if i want gl accounts hit by manual process in MRP process what changes to be made ?

Hi
Kindly check with the following:
In customizing for that plant price differences should or not be posted during GR.
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error is
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Hi,
For subcontracting process you need to set up following
If Material has Price Control as "V" (MAP)
(BSX) Stock A/c of Assembly - Dr
(BSV) Change in Subcon Stock - Cr
(FRL) Subcontracting Charges - Dr
(WRX) GR/IR Clearing A/c - Cr
(BSX) Stock A/c of Components - Cr
(GBB-VBO) Consumption A/c of Components - Dr
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Finished product: $400 (value at standard price)
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o Ext. service : $250
o Components : $100
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Stock account FERT : 400 +
Stock change : 400 -
GR/IR clearing acct : 250 -
External service acct : 250 +
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Consumption account : 100 +
Posting schema with price differences:
Stock account FERT : 400 +
Stock change : 350 -
Price difference : 50 -
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External service acct : 250 +
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Consumption account : 100 +
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God Bless
Regards
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Inventory posting               -e-   -e- TRA1 89 130000      99 130000
Incidental costs of external a -e-   -e- -e-   86 460820      96 460820
External activity               -e-   -e- TRA1 86 460960      96 460960
Change in stock account         -e-   -e- TRA1 81 460820      91 460820
Purchase offsetting account     -e-   -e- -e-   40 --Missing- 50 --Missing-
Purchase account                -e-   -e- -e-   40 --Missing- 50 --Missing-
Materials management exch.rate -e-   -e- -e-   40 440600      50 440600
Cost (price) differences        -e-        TRA1 83 440000      93 440005
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Hi Tehsin,
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