Sub contract account
Dear Friends,
For subcontracting purchase order at the time of goods reciept for
15 kg of the component COMP-1 at $20/kg = $300
5 pcs of the component COMP-2 at $30/pc = $150
The goods receipt is valuated with $950. This is calculated as follows:
The subcontract price (50 pcs * $10/pc = $500) and
Value of the components ($300 + $150).
As per the SAP standard the below entry is shown as example. my user is asking when the value of external service is loaded in the
stock account end product as 950 then why again external service account as 500 again debited separately
can anybody explain clearly this entry. because my user is expecting only 1) gr/IR , 2)SEMIFINISHED GOODS(Which is recived from sub contractor) 3) Rawmaterial account( which is issued for sub contract) 4) Raw materail consumption account.
I am unable to explain about external service account and change involving stock accounts. Please give ur valuable time to answer me?
At goods receipt
GR/IR clearing account 500 -
External service account 500 +
Stock account: end product 950 +
Change involving stocks 950 -
Stock account: comp. 450 -
Consumption account 450 +
Dear,
Go to transaction code OBYC , check the G/L account against Account key FRL . That is the G/L which will hit instead of inventory account while doing goods receipt . Suppose Rs5/- per one unit of service and 100 units of service will be provided. Then this Rs 500/- will hit this G/L account which is provided by FRL accnt key .This will be balanced by GR/IR clearing account.
Then in OBYC check account key BSV. The G/L which will be assigned to this key will be the change in stock G/L.Suppose we receive a finished goods worth Rs1000/- . Then against Finished goods inventory account this account will get balanced.
Then in OBYC click on GBB accnt key , then check account modifier VBO . Against valuation classs check the G/Ls . During subcontracting the raw material which gets consumed will hit this G/L account. Suppose we used one Rs 800/- worth of raw material. Then during GR this will be consumed. So inventory credit and Consumption account debit . That consumption account is maintained at this location.
These are the three accnt keys which are used for subcintracting account determination.
Hope it helps
Abhijit
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SUB CONTRACTING ACCOUNTING ENTRY - DOUBT
Hi,
the blw is the a/cing entry for the sub contract process , here pls tell me how the a/c detemination for Rs 1000 is picking i.e for BSX & BSV..
i knew that FRL & WRX picked based the po price say Rs .200
and GBB & BSX is picked based on the mat master value of the ram mat, which we send to subcontractor.. say Rs 800
i need to know , how the BSX and BSV value is picking?? pls clarify
BSX- stock account finished -
1000(+)
BSV- change in stock -
1000(-)
FRL-external service----
200(+)
WRXGR/IR clearing acct--
200(-)
GBB_VBO- consumption acct raw material sent to vendor-----800(+)
BSX- stock account--
800(-)in your case , Your Finished material is valuated at MAP with price control "V" , so the total value of material produced will be the sum of the Raw material components consumed and the subcon charges.
Change in stock account is hit when you receive any material from subcontracting .
so BSX entry is "Stock debit " 800 +200 = 1000 (sum of Components consumed and Subcon charges)
BSV Entry is for "Change in stock " credit = 1000 (equivalent to Finished material value) -
Sub contracting Accounting Posting
Dear all;
Can any one tell me how to do the OBYC settings for "Subcontracting ". setp by step.
Thanking You;
Joydeep Mukhopadhyaya
Note : Question is already answered many times,please search to find it.
Edited by: Jeyakanthan A on Jul 13, 2011 12:12 PMspecially for said of subcontracting process, no nedd to do anything extra in obyc.
just u configure these accounts, it will come under this process also.:
1) updation while we supply materials to vendor
No accounts hit
2) while we recieve the finshed product
if you are sending raw material RMAT and receiving semifinished material SMAT. You have a freight component as well.
During GR, the following accounts are hit.
Service charges:
DR Subcontracting charges account: (from OBYC - FRL)
CR GRIR clearing account (OBYC - WRX)
Change in stock SMAT:
DR Stock account (from OBYC - BSX)
CR Change in stock account (from OBYC - BSV)
Change in stock RMAT:
CR stock account (from OBYC - BSX)
DR change in stock account (from OBYC - GBB/VBO)
Freight:
DR: Stock account (from OBYC - BSX) - for SMAT
CR: Freight clearing account (from OBYC - FRN).
3) And while settlement to vendor
DR GRIR clearing account
CR Vendor account.
You run a scenario and see FI doc. ,whether its coming correct or not.
thanks
nisha -
my client running fg sub contracting (electro plating )cycle through the MRP
after return from vendor with mvt type 105 (543) i check document list with MB51. i found following g/l account effects :
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
SFG-inventory account = 323055
for sub contract account = 602130
Inventory account = 320010
Costs of goods mfg = 602200
but if do whole sub contracting cycle without MRP i can see effect in following G/L a/C:
Manual Cycle .
Inventory account = 320010
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
Price Differance Account = 602155
change in stock = 603010
Sub Contract expense = 603000
SFG-inventory account = 323055
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
my question is why this differance comes ?
if i want gl accounts hit by manual process in MRP process what changes to be made ?Hi,
Price diffrences arise during valuation @ GR if the material is managed at standard price in MMR.
Also there is one more setting in customizing that for a plant that price differences should or not be posted during GR.
spro-IMGMMInv MGmtGR--price differences for subcontracting at GR
Regards,
Deepak. -
my client running fg sub contracting (electro plating )cycle through the MRP
after return from vendor with mvt type 105 (543) i check document list with MB51. i found following g/l account effects :
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
SFG-inventory account = 323055
for sub contract account = 602130
Inventory account = 320010
Costs of goods mfg = 602200
but if do whole sub contracting cycle without MRP i can see effect in following G/L a/C:
Manual Cycle .
Inventory account = 320010
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
Price Differance Account = 602155
change in stock = 603010
Sub Contract expense = 603000
SFG-inventory account = 323055
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
my question is why this differance comes ?
if i want gl accounts hit by manual process in MRP process what changes to be made ?Hi
Kindly check with the following:
In customizing for that plant price differences should or not be posted during GR.
SPRO->IMG>MM>Inv MGmt>GR-->price differences for subcontracting at GR
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GL account doesnt exist in company code-error in Sub contracting PO.
While doing GR for the sub contracting PO, I am getting this error for line item 4: GL account 490237 is doesnot exist in company code 0600.
3 line items are already recieved to the GL account 490223 which is correct.
for 4 th line item when i am going to do the GR the above error is occuring,
I have checked the FRL setting for Valuation grouping code VB01 with 490237; it should be acually 490223.
Where can I see the changes relevant to that, all of a sudden GR is asking for the new GL account than the one which use to posted earlier? Pls help me experts.
Thanks
SriThe correct G/L account is 490223, so far posted with. what changes went to production I dont know
Valuation grouping code in obyc is VB01 490237 (at present for FRL)
VB02 490223 (at present fro FRL).
due to which all of a sudden its looking for 490237 which is not correct.
after our EHP5, is this got changed to vice versa?
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Sri -
Sub-contracting: difference in Accounting
Hi guys,
I am using release 4.7 and we are discussing about 2 different ways to proceed sub-contracting.
1. Sub-contracting is handled only in MM: PR>PO>GR
2. Sub-contracting is handled as an external operation in routing:
Prod.Order>PR>PO>GR>Confirmation of Prod.Order
In particular we would like to understand the different impact these two ways of managing Sub-contracting have in accounting especially in Cost of production and in cost of goods sold.
Could you kindly give me some clarifications?
Thanks in advance
VirHi Sunil,
there is a particular thing I forgot to say that is Material Ledger. In my company we implemented it and all stock materials are managed with standard control key.
So at the end of month there is Variances Analysis and Distribution to materials with multi-level strategy.
What I want to know is if both methods of Sub-contracting fullfil the requirements of cost of production and cost of goods sold reconciliation .
Your precious answer is grateful
Vir -
Sub Contracting GR Accounting Entries
Hi All,
I am posting GR for sub contracting PO and found the following entries in the accounting document of GR:
1. Stock Acct. of Finished product
2. GR/ IR Clearing Acct
3. Sub Contracting Charges
4. Change in Sub Contracting Stock
However, I did not see the accounting entries for:
1. Stock Acct. of Spare parts
2. Consumption Acct
Please suggest how to corrent the same?
Rgds,
KKHi,
Check in GR Document whether line item for component consumption exists with MvT 543, if yes then check whether MAP of material is ZERO.
If line with MvT 543 doesn't exist then you might have forgot to activate "Item OK" indicator for component line item during GR in MIGO. Confirm this by checking componet stock in MMBE for special Stock "O" for Vendor. Just cancel the GR Document and Post GR again.
During GR against Subcontracting PO (In MIGO), following A/c Entry should get posted;
BSX Assembly Stock A/c Dr 5000.00
BSV Change in Stock A/c Cr 5000.00
FRL Subcontracting Charges A/c Dr 1000.00
WRX GR/IR Clearing A/c Cr 1000.00
GBB-VBO Component Consumption A/c Dr 4000.00
BSX Component Stock A/c Cr 4000.00 -
Sub Contracting-Inventory GL shoule be P&L or Clearing Account?
Hi,
I am facing problem in Sub contracting. Please any one can clarify me whether Sub Contracting-Inventory GL should be P&L or Clearing Account?
Thanks
KBit should be clearing account. Because we receive the goods,These goods are need to transfer to toher party.
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Creation of Sub Contracting PO through Maintenance Order
Dear All,
I am aware of the sub contracting indicator to be cliked in the maintenance order in order for the system to generate a Sub Contracting PO through Maintenance Order. However I am unable to see this indicator in maintenance order fields.
Is there anything that I am missing in customising settings or is this related to activation of any business function sets.
I am working in ECC 6.0 EhP 5.0.
Need your help / inputs so as to resolve my issue.
Thanks in advance.
JKHi Tehsin,
Thanks for ur response.
However this is something I am aware of. The settings suggested by you will automatically generate a PR with Account Assignemnt Category as 'Order' (F) & Item Category as 'Service' (D) combination.
I am looking for the auto generation of PR through the maintenance order with Account Assignemnt Category as 'Order' (F) & Item Category as 'Sub Contracting' (L) combination.
Looking forward to hear from all.
Thanks in advance
JK. -
Error while doing MIGO for a sub-contracted item
Hello to Everybody,
I am facing below problem -
Error : Incorrect CCtr <Cost Center Code> with this account (CCtr category must=D) for
<Item Code> , while doing MIGO. (for receiving sub-contracted item from vendor).
May I request for possible solution to above error ?
regards,Dear Sanjay,
You can determine the cost object for the posting of the costs in the transaction OKB9.
Following thread should resolve this issue:
Re: cost of subcontracting
Regards,
Naveen. -
Sub contracting Process issue for A/c entry
Hi All,
While doing the GRN for subcontracting process ,cost object error is appearing for stock change SFG account ( BSV).
Business would like to do not assign the Default cost object for change in stock account. Kinldy confirm whether it is possible to determine Internal order number ,whcih same assigned to GRN for stock in change account SFG.
Any alternative method would be apprecaite
Rgds
SumaManiThanks to all of us for answers !!
We solved problem as mentioned !
1. Created separate SFG Stock change over subcontracting GL account and assigned same in OBYC - BSV & profit centre wise internal order defaulted in OKB9 settings.Also created sub contracting expenses GL and assigned OKB9 profit centre wise. ( Problem has been solved with separate GL account of stock change over)
It can be possible to solve with using of substituion GGB0 with module pool RGGB0*
Rgds
SumaMani -
Dear All,
While making GRN for sub-contracting by using 543 movement type, the following account determinations are made as per the messages received in process.
GBB--VBO FOR VALUATION CLASS 7900
WRX--GR/IR
BSV--CHANGE IN STOCK
FRL--FOR EXTERNAL ACTIVITY
But I am getting error message as
Fld selectn for mvmt type 543 / acct 24110499 differs for Cost center (010)
The above acc no was assigned to GBB--VBO.
Please provide a solution.
Regards,
Venkat.Hi
The problem may be because the field selection of GL account 24110499 from FI is different from that for the movement type 543 from MM. The Report RM07CUFA can be used to check this discrepancy. Therefore, go to Transaction SE38 and select this program. The next screen will appear where you have to enter both your G/L Account and Movement Type and stock indicator O.
For further information, check in OSS Note 9281.
regards
Srinivas -
hi Gurus
Can anybocy give some input for my problm. While creating Sub-contract PO, i m getting error "Combination item category L/account assignment category K not defined"
Pls send me some solution
Thanks By
sap-mmgo to the tc olme and ther in the account assignement --->define combination of account assignment and item category
do this for u r item category and for the account assignement category and u r problem will be solved
Edited by: Rahul Tyagi on Apr 4, 2008 4:34 PM -
Freight error for Sub Contracting PO
Dear All
I am adding freight conditions in Sub Contracting PO. I want to add that freight value to inventory. So in Schema i have maintained account key as blank for that freight condition type. but while doing GR system is asking GL for FRN key. Why it is asking like this?
What are the setting i have to maintain for above requirement.
Kindly kind me.
ShobanaHi,
Even if you maintain account key, frieght value will add to the inventory account. You need to maintain GL for FRN, since it is automatic posting.
NOTE: FRN is for delivery costs particularly for subcontract
Definition:
External service, delivery costs (FRN)
This transaction is used for delivery costs (incidental costs of procurement) in connection with subcontract orders.
If the account assigned here is defined as a cost element, you must specify a preliminary account assignment for the account in the table of automatic account assignment specification (Customizing for Controlling) in order to be able to post goods receipts against subcontract orders. In the standard system, cost center SC-1 is defined for this purpose.
Regards,
Prabu
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