Subcontracting process for MTO scenario
Dear Sir ,
In my company one scnario comes , in which we are making MTO sales order for customer , some item of BOM of finished goods I have to provide to the subcontracting vendor for making semifinished goods .
How I can do this activity according to SAP point , as subcontracting vendor stock is represented with specail indicatior O and sales order stock with E.
Please help to get rid off this issue.
thanks & regards
Shailendra
check these links http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/4d/2b90b043ad11d189410000e829fbbd/content.htm
http://help.sap.com/bp_blv1600/V5600/BBLibrary/HTML/150_EN_IN.htm
Edited by: anjali s on Apr 28, 2009 12:57 PM
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Can any one provide the steps for execution of valuated and unvaluated for MTO scenario.
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Please find below the details about Valuated and non-valuated Sale Order scenarios:
SAP Scenario 1 - Valuated Sale Order Stock u2013 with Sale Order Controlling u2013 (MTO, ATO and ETO with VC)
1 Enquiry
2 Opportunity
3 Quotation (Creation and Approval). In case of ETO u2013 BPO is created and updated in quotation (condition type)
4 Creation of Sale Order
5 MRP Run u2013 Creation of Planned Order u2013 Creation of Production Order and Purchase Order
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To GR/IR A/c Cr (P&L)
7 Material Consumption to Production Order In FI:
ROH con. A/c Dr (P&L)
To ROH Inventory A/c Cr (BS)
Same is the case with HALB
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Cost of Material is debited to Production Order
8 Activity Consumption to Production Order No FI Posting
In CO:
Production Order is debited and cost center is credited with activity cost
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To COGM A/c Cr (P&L)
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Customer A/c Dr (BS)
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To In-Transit A/c Cr (BS)
In CO:
COGS and Revenue are posted to COPA
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13 Calculation of WIP In FI:
WIP A/c Dr. (BS)
To Change in WIP A/c Cr (P&L)
If the Order is completed:
In FI:
Change in WIP A/c Dr(P&L)
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Process Step Business Process Flow Value Flow u2013 FI/CO
1 Enquiry
2 Opportunity
3 Quotation (Creation and Approval)
4 Creation of Sale Order
5 MRP Run u2013 Creation of Planned Order u2013 Creation of Production Order and Purchase Order
6 External Procurement u2013 Goods Receipt In FI:
Consumption A/c Dr (P&L)
To GR/IR A/c Cr (P&L)
In CO:
Material costs will directly get posted to Sale Order
7 Material Consumption to Production Order Not applicable
8 Activity Consumption to Production Order In FI:
No Entry
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9 Goods Receipt from Production Order Only Material Document for movement of goods will be there. The stock is neither valuated in CO nor in FI
10 Delivery to customer Just goods movement from sale order stock to customer. No value postings in FI and CO
11 Invoicing to customer In FI:
Customer A/c Dr (BS)
To Revenue Cr (P&L)
In CO:
COGS and Revenue get posted to Sale Order
Period end closing u2013 Production Order
12 Revaluation of activity prices Prodn Order and Cost Center will be debited or credited as the case may be
13 Calculation of WIP No WIP
14 Calculation of Variances No Variances
15 Settlement of costs to Sale Order All the costs accumulated in Production Order gets collected to Sale Order
16 Settlement of Variances No Variances in Production Order
Period end closing u2013 Sale Order
17 Result analysis at Sale Order In FI
WIP A/c Dr. (BS)
To Change in WIP A/c Cr (P&L)
If the Order is completed:
Change in WIP A/c Dr (P&L)
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No CO postings will happen
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Best Regards
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1)Total Stock field (LBKUM)in Accounting View 1 remain as blank but the sales order stock is appear in Stock Overview screen.
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p/s: on ECC5 system.Hi,
Good morning and greetings,
The standard SAP says as below
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But there is a provision fulfill the requirement.
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Special procurement key is 40 and availability check is 02 in the receiving plant. Can anybody advise why this is happening and required steps to correct it.Hi,
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and you are not specified what you are looking for.
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Sales order to consider for MTO scenario
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I request please indicate the config requirements for this.
warm regards
sairam akundiSairam,
I am not sure as to what excatly you are looking for.
However please note the following with respect to sales order requirements for MTO and MTS:
For MTO: The requirements type in the procurement tab of the sales order should be KE or any other requirements type that supports procurement from sales requirements. To be able to enter the KE requirements type in the sales order the material master should have Planning strategy group which suppotrs MTO Example: 20 which is specified in the MRP3 view.
For MTS: The requirements type in the procurement tab would be KSL or any other which supports make to order. The Planning strategy group for this in material master should be 10.
The configurations for this include the
1) configuration of the Planning strategy group which contains a list of planning
strategies allowed.
2) configuration of individual strategies which combine the requirements types from Production and Sales. The requirements class which is keyed in the requirements type determines excatly how the planning and procurement occurs.
The above configurations are pre-defined in standard SAP. You could change them if you require to.
Check the configs under:
SPRO>SD>Basic functions>Av check and transfer of requirements.
With the above basic settings, in case of MTO sales order would drive the production. In case of MTS production is carried based on forecast values (Planned independent requiremts irrespective of sales order requirements). The warehouse stock is then allocated to the sales order at the time of delievry.
For more help check the SAP online help on Planning strategies.
Hope above is useful.
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I want to know the detail process of subcontracting with senario as
We want to procure material A from vendor X for this vendor Y will provide the material B to vendor X and we will get the final material A from Vendor X so how to handle this scenarion can you give the detail steps for this with all detail along with accounting data..
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zafarDear Zafar.
As per your scenario.
Material - A - Finished Material
Material - B - -Row Material to created material A
Vendor X - Subcontractor
Vendor Y - Vendor for component B.
Now first create purchase order of material A with vendor X as per Jobwork price of finished Materail A. (PO no - 1)
Then Create purchase order ME21N for component B with reference to vendor Y as per rate confirmed with vendor Y
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-> Right bottom you will find field Vendor -> enter the vendor code of X (your subcontractor vendor for material A) in this filed
-> Tick mark the Check box the SC vend beside this field. (purchase order no - 2)
Now inform the vendor Y to send the components B to subcontractor X.
When X will confirm you that the components are (material B) arrived at his place take the GRN for purchase order no 2.
This will directly t/f the stock of material (B) provided to vendor X instead of your company/storage location.
You are liable for component B to vendor Y as now the stock is your but at subcontractor place.
To payment for B of vendor Y do normai MIRO as you are doing regular.
Vendor X will generate the material A and send it to you.
This will consume the components B and you have to pay to vendor A as per jobwork price mention in PO no -1.
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Rajan -
Subcontracting Process for subsequent adjustment
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Please find the screen shots of J1IF12, where i have received the 300 Qty.
But in J1IFR, Qty is showing due for reversal.
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Then y the difference is coming.
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Back order processing for MTO's
Dear all,
i want to post one custoer MTO stock to ome oter cusomer including Cost.
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Kapil -
Hi Friends,
Please help me to make me understand of subcontracting process for Automotives.
FYI our Plant is a 3rd party warehouse system. Our requirement is how (which triggers) the Delivery/Delivery Due list shipment of the components of the Subcontracting Assembly from Plant to Subcontractor can be done in SAP.
How the Planning of the components of Subcontracting Assembly can be done with help of MRP at Subcontractor level. Also we want to keep the safety stock at all the locations including subcontractor for components.
Any suggestions would be helpful..
Thanks and Regards,
NabinDear,
There are two main options, I have not clearly understood your requirement, however please go through my explanantion, may be helpful
The procedure you are talking about in you serial no 1 to 4 is the <b>material subcontract...</b>the procedure is as below
Let us say you have a final product C.
C needs B
B need s A
A needs raw material X and Y
In the above case
C and B is having routing
In A material master MRP2 view....enter special procurement key as subcontracting(in STD sap the key is 30), procurement key = F
A has a BOM having items X and Y. No routing for A
When you run MRP
System will create Pl order for C and B, SUBCONTACTING PR to A and PR to x and Y
After you procure X and Y, You can convert PR of A to PO.
Then you will send the material i.e. issue the material to subcontractor through 541 and special stock O.
This stock you case see in MMBE with special stock O.
Once you receive the material A, when you do GR, the materials are issued to A and A will be inventarised with mov type 101.
The cost of serve and the cost of raw material is booked to cost center entered in subcontracting PO.
The cost of this will be settled to production order later. -
Hi ,
i have created SO->
i have run MRP.->
I have confirmed production order.->
i have done GR with MB31(movement type 101)
But, When i am packing that material in HU02 its giving error as
Batch 20027725 1310 2000 11 doesnot exist.
where,
20027725-material
1310-Plant
2000-FG Storage location
11-Batch no.
is it possible to pack material in HU02 for MTO Scenario??? or we have to use COWBPACK & COWBHUWE T-codes???
kindly guide
Regards,
AmolMadan,
Automatic Reorder Point Planning
In automatic reorder point planning, both the reorder level and the safety stock level are determined by the integrated forecasting program.
The system uses past consumption data (historical data) to forecast future requirements. The system then uses these forecast values to calculate the reorder level and the safety stock level, taking the service level, which is specified by the MRP controller, and the material's replenishment lead time into account, and transfers them to the material master.
Since the forecast is carried out at regular intervals, the reorder level and the safety stock level are continually adapted to the current consumption and delivery situation. This means that a contribution is made towards keeping stock levels low.
So you need to maintain the forecast view for the material. The forecast values comes from consumption data. If the system in place for some time then consuption data will be automatically by the system based on the material issues. I am not sure if you can enter the consumption manually.
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Ram -
CTM Order Selection MTO scenario
Hi,
I have cfreated a Sales Order in ECC with Requirement Strategy as Made To Order and CIFed the order to APO.
The order is getting CIFed and is reflecting in APO.
The issue is that when I try to do Demand Simulation using CTM the order is not getting recognised.
Is their some setting that needs to be done in case Sales Order for MTO scenario.
Please help me in this regards.
Thanks,
SanjogHi Sanjog,
can you see the sales order in APO (/sapapo/rrp3).
please maintain in the demand prioritization profile the category for this sales order and then try simulating the demands.
let me know if it works.
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