Subcontracting Requirement

Dear All
When we issue goods(MB1B) (541)to Vendor there is no control that the system should reference a PO. We'll be able to issue and material for this movement type. Is there an option to make the PO as mandatory and select only the components listed in the PO to be issues. Kindly let me know if we can achieve this.
Regards
JK

Hi,
This is a typical case with MB1B Transfer posting, you will have to use a user exit / badi, plz explore in - IM - Maintain Customer Exits and Business Add-Ins - BAdI: Creation of Material Document
Take technical consultant's help.
u can check ur data in mb1b transaction based on exits or badi .
MB_CF001 Customer Function Exit in the Case of Updating a Mat. Doc.
MBCF0011 Read from RESB and RKPF for print list in MB26
MBCF0010 Customer exit: Create reservation BAPI_RESERVATION_CREATE1
MBCF0009 Filling the storage location field
MBCF0007 Customer function exit: Updating a reservation
MBCF0006 Customer function for WBS element
MBCF0005 Material document item for goods receipt/issue slip
MBCF0002 Customer function exit: Segment text in material doc. item
Business Add-in
ARC_MM_MATBEL_WRITE Archive AddOn-Specific Data for MM_MATBEL
ARC_MM_MATBEL_CHECK Check AddOn-Specific Criteria for MM_MATBEL
MB_CHECK_LINE_BADI BAdI: Check Line Before Copying to the Blocking Tables
MB_PHYSINV_INTERNAL Connection: Core Inventory and Retail AddOn
MB_RESERVATION_BADI MB21/MB22: Check and Complete Dialog Data
MB_QUAN_CHECK_BADI BAdI: Item Data at Time of Quantity Check
MB_MIGO_ITEM_BADI BAdI in MIGO for Changing Item Data
MB_MIGO_BADI BAdI in MIGO for External Detail Subscreens
MB_DOC_BADI_INTERNAL BAdIs when Creating a Material Document (SAP Internal)
MB_DOCUMENT_UPDATE BADI when updating material document: MSEG and MKPF
MB_DOCUMENT_BADI BAdIs when Creating a Material Document
MB_CIN_MM07MFB7_QTY Proposal of quantity from Excise invoice in GR
MB_CIN_MM07MFB7 BAdI for India Version exit in include MM07MFB7
MB_CIN_LMBMBU04 posting of gr
MB_BATCH_MASTER Setting of Batch Data at Goods Movement
ME2O is also a option to transfer the material to subcontracting vendor.
Regards,
Vikas Mayekar
Edited by: Vikas Mayekar on Jan 28, 2011 3:03 PM

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hi thr ,
here we r using planing strategy 10 .we have BOM like HALB A conatains ROH B
and that ROH B is send outsidefor subcontracting for cutting operation .
when i am taking planning run it is not generating DepReq for ROH B .
i have maintained spl procurement key 30 in HALB A in MRP 2 view .
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Routing is not required as you are subcontracting HALB A (as mentioned by you only one operation representing external processing).
1. Maintain HALB A - Special Procurement - F & 30
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Please create a reservation for Subcontracting of 300 Qty,
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We have one reservation for a material (BOM component of a Purchase order item) was originally created via a subcontracting PO. Then deletion indicator was set to PO line item. Then the component assigned to PO line item was deleted. But now we can not delete the reservation.
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We have faced a similar situation wrt to Sales order and Production order where the dependent reservations were seen in MD04 after the deletion of sales order and also the TECO for production order .
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I have some doubt in subcontracting, required your help for clear under standing.
We are following standard subcontracting cycle in SAP, but some times there will changes in the subcon order after the materials are issued to the vendor. I need to accomodate the new material issue in the same subcon order and get back already sent items. How can I perfrom this SAP. What will be issues related to accounting entries in this case.
Also some times I will change the BOM for subcon order before or after issue of materials to vendor. What will be the effect of this in the subcon order. If I do the same after order release how the system will behave and what changes the accounting entries will have.
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I created a subcontarctor purchase order for 100 pc and taken the mrp run .
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Pradeep,
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Hi
Appreciate your response in this regard.
Is there any SAP note or some notes where I can get this information. Because we have a production issue on this, I agree it is true but how to present to customer.
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Hi SAP Experts,
I have a question about MRP.
Can we work MRP with subcontractor stock?
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In MD04 transaction
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This problem (almost) drive me crazy. I really appreciate any help.
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Dear Demetrio
Please note that the logic for subcontracting was changed as of release
4.0A.
As of release 4.0 the net requirements calculation for components to be
provided in subcontracting takes into account that the provision stock
can only be used to cover the corresponding requirement of material
provided. The provision stock that is already available from a
subcontractor (vendor) can only therefore be used to cover the
requirements of material provided at this subcontractor.
The system uses only the stock that has not been assigned to a
subcontractor as unrestricted-use stock to cover all requirements.
For further information about this issue please consider the below QA. With the modification of note 170597 the old logic can be achieved. Please notice that it is a modification note.
1. Question
Why does the MD04/MD05 display an own segment for subcontracting as of Release 4.0B and how does the materials planning work with this new logic?
Answer
The logic regarding the subcontracting was changed as of 4.0. This is explained in detail in the release notes for 4.0A:Planning of the components to be provided for subcontracting
Material Requirements Planning -> Planning Execution -> Material Requirements Planning: Planning of the components to be provided for subcontracting
2. Question
Why does the third-party order processing for subcontracting work differently as of Release 4.0B?
Answer
The (Pseudo) Third-Party Order Processing for parts provided together with the own segment for subcontracting results in problems and can result in inconsistencies. This is described in detail in Note 214298.
As of Release 4.5A you can implement the third-party order processing with subcontracting MRP areas (refer to the corresponding documentation).In addition you can use a modification to reset the system to the behavior before 4.0A, refer to Note 388479. As of Release 4.7, BAdI 'MD_SUBCONT_LOGIC' allows this without a modification.
3. Question
Why does the discontinued part for subcontracting not work?
Answer
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Why does the system not display the requirements of material provided in the storage location MRP area, as expected?
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Requirements of material provided (subcontracting requirements, material staging requirements) never reach a storage location MRP area, because later you cannot post the withdrawal from this MRP area.
The withdrawal of the components (to be provided) during the goods receipt for an SC procurement proposal occurs always from the stock with subcontractor, which is managed - from the viewpoint of the inventory management - on plant level and has no storage location reference.Refer to Note 503497 for details.
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The corresponding receipt element must standardly always be within the rescheduling horizon. This is required (due to technical reasons) even then when the input itself does not have to be rescheduled, so that the net invoice can deliver consistent results for the subcontractor segment together with the rescheduling check.
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I am generating a purchase requisiton for an external operation from a production order. This purchase req is a std purchase req and account assignment is F (production order). The line item does not have a storage location due to which the ME59N fails. Does anyone know how I can get the strorage location for this external operation purchase req to populate and how I can get the ME59N to work for purchase reqs of these kinds ?
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Hello
I'd like to suggest you to read carefully the following note:
503497 - Subcontracting and MRP areas
The following information provided on this note confirms that the storage location is not necessary for subcontracting, therefore, this field is empty:
The most important point to understand the system behavior is the fact that the withdrawal of the (subcontracting) component is generally carried out during the goods receipt for an SC procurement proposalfrom the subcontractor stock that is managed at plant level from an inventory management point of view and that has no reference to a storage location at all.
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Thus SC-requirements always enter the SC segment of the plant MRP area or the SC-MRP area.
The SC MRP area in turn is supplied by stock transfer reservations from the plant MRP area or via third-party order processing through procurement proposals with goods receipt directly to the subcontractor. A supply through the materials planning from a storage location MRP area is not possible.
For the above reason, SC-requirements do also not carry any storage location, since the storage location does not have any control function at all for SC-requirements:
You cannot and you should not determine a storage location MRP area (see above), and the subcontractor MRP area is determined via the vendor of the procurement proposal, thus it is independent of the storage location.
See also Note 376050 on this topic that makes a modification available which prevents the deletion of the storage location in the subcontractor requirements, so that you can use, for example, customer-specific reports to analyze the storage location.
You may consider the modification from note 376050, which prevents the deletion of the storage location from the subcontracting requirements, however, this is generally only relevant for displaying the storage location and this is not used for processing the item.
BR
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Delivery type "LB" and MRP

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I work on the APO side and iam not thorough with MM . I have a question about the subcontracting scenario .
We provide components to the subcontractor who then makes the finished products and ships them to our plant. Let us assume we have a subcontracting requirement for 100 CS. We now create a delivery (ME2o) to the subcontractor for 100 CS ( delivery type LB) . When we look at MD04 the delivery created for 100 CS is not offsetting the subcontracting requirement of 100 CS. So we now have a demand of 100 + 100 = 200 CS which is actually not the case. Is this a standard SAP behaviour ?
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Currently i am procuring a HALB material thru subcontracting. This HALB is having BOM components. I need to send the BOM components to the vendor for assembly.
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Hi,
Planned order:-A request created in the planning run for a plant to trigger the procurement of a plant material for a certain quantity for a specific date.
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CusReq Customer reqmt (Reqmt element from demand management)
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ForReq Forecast requirements (forecast-based planning)
QM lot QM inspection lot
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SimReq Simulative requirements
SomOrd Simulative order
DepReq Dependent requirements
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Quote Quotation
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SchAgr Scheduling agreement
Contr. Contract
Fr.del FOC delivery
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