Subcontracting revarsal cycle of excisable goods

Dear MM Experts,
Kindly explain the Reversal process of Subcontracting with excisable goods.
I have done upto J1IFR
Creation of subcontracting PO ( ME21N) Item ctgry: L
Transfer Posting Mvt 541 MB1B
Creation of subcontracting challan J1IF01
Good receipt w.r.t Subcontracting Challan.
Generation of Annexure IV J1IFR
What will be the next step?
Please help me out.
Thanks & Regards,
Sandeep.

You can replicate the reversal cycle once you cross 180 days period. In J1IF13, instead of 'Complete' option, you will get 'Reversal option. Once you post the challan, your duties will get reversed.

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[Subcontracting Process w/o Payment of Excise Duty|http://help.sap.com/bestpractices/BBLibrary/Documentation/J85_BPP_V2_EN_IN.doc]
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