Ten Smart Collection bugs/changes

After upgrading the catalog from v2 to v3 I have compared the smart collection counters for every SC and found a lot of differences. So, you may need to check your own SCs or rewrite some rules. Here's a list of bugs and changes in logic I was able to find.
"Rating is not X" does not include unrated photos
Be it a bug or change in logic, but LR2 would include unrated photos in this case. This has also been discussed here: http://forums.adobe.com/message/2876677 .
"Rating is 0" includes all photos
This is definitely a bug, as now you cannot catch your unrated images without tricks (e.g. "None: rating >= 1").
+ modifiers reversed role
In LR2 "+abc" meant "starts with abc" and "abc+" meant "ends with abc". In LR3 these have reversed. More than that, in LR2 one could use "+abc+" to identify the word "abc"; in LR3 this doesn't work anymore, since "contains +abc+" is equivalent to "contains abc".
! modifier doesn't work
the ! (not) modifier just doesn't work here. The smart collection just hangs. This also causes other SCs to not update their counts after start-up. Try "keyword contains !abc".
Dash ("-") is now treated as a word delimiter
In LR2 "abc-xyz" was treated as a complete word. LR3 treats it as two words: "abc" and "xyz". Not a bug, but some SCs will have to be rewritten.
"Caption is empty" doesn't work for some images
LR3 catalog has a new table in its schema: AgLibraryIPTC. This table appears to be a sort of a cache for captions and copyrights (not to confuse with copyright status). This particular SC rule seems to search in that table in instead of full xmp. However, if an image didn't contain neither a caption nor a copyright in LR2 catalog, after conversion it won't be added to the AgLibraryIPTC table. This, in its turn, will cause the "Caption is empty" rule to fail even though a photo does indeed NOT have a caption.
"Title contains t" includes all image from library
Now this is a really strange one, as I don't have any titles on any of my photos. I tried every other letter and digit, but only "t" fails the check. "Title doesn't contain t" also fails, not including any photo at all, although none of the photos have any title. Again, "t" is the only wrong letter. "T" is often used as an alias in sql joins... could it be the problem?
"Title contains <space>" hangs
Just like the "!" modifier above, this rule hangs and blocks other "healthy" SCs to not recount themselves after start-up. You need to type in a single space character into the criteria filed.
"Label Text" is case sensitive
It has been so in LR2 too, but I think a user should be freed from the need to think about case-sensitivity.
"All searchable metadata" doesn't search in copyright.
Note that "All searchable Text" DOES search there, but isn't the copyright field metadata? Note that LR didn't search in copyright with both rules, so this is a kind of improvement, after all.

Just for your information:
"Rating is not X" does not include unrated photos Fixed in 3.2 RC.
"Rating is 0" includes all photos somewhat fixed, but with issues
+ modifiers reversed role fixed, but with issues
! modifier doesn't work Fixed in 3.2 RC.
Dash ("-") is now treated as a word delimiter Fixed in 3.2 RC.
"Caption is empty" doesn't work for some images Fixed in 3.2 RC.
"Title contains t" includes all image from library Fixed in 3.2 RC.
"Title contains <space>" hangs not fixed
"All searchable metadata" doesn't search in copyright. not fixed, but might not be a bug
"Label Text" is case sensitive not fixed, but might not be a bug

Similar Messages

  • Smart Collection bug with Title doesn't contain rule

    Hi,
    There are various articles on smart collections that check if the "Title" field is filled or not. Because the "Title" field doesn't have an "is empty" like function, the sugested solution is to use the rule:
      Title   doesn't contain   a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,w,x,y,z
    But there is a bug in this rule. I found that the letter 't' is causing a problem. The letter 't' seems to include all characters.
    Situation:
    Four images that have a their Title field as follows:
      Image 1:
      Image 2: 2014-01 - Street Photography.dng
      Image 3: 2014-01
      Image 4: Some Image
    (Image 1 has an empty title)
    Four smart collections with the following rules:
      Collection 1: Title   doesn't contain   a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,w,x,y,z
      Collection 2: Title   doesn't contain   0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
      Collection 3: Title   doesn't contain   a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,u,v,w,x,y,z
      Collection 4: Title   doesn't contain   t
    My expected result of the smart collections is:
      Collection 1: Image 1 and Image 3
      Collection 2: Image 1 and Image 4
      Collection 3: Image 1 and Image 3
      Collection 4: Image 1, Image 3 and Image 4
    The actual result of the smart collections is:
      Collection 1: Image 1
      Collection 2: Image 1 and Image 4
      Collection 3: Image 1 and Image 3
      Collection 4: Image 1
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    Can anyone, specially from the Adobe Lightroom team, confirm this?
    How to solve this issue?
    With kind regards,
    Dennis
    www.idemi.nl

    That is a bizarre bug.  There is an even simpler way to reproduce the problem: Have two pics, one with title "a" and the other with title "t".  The criterion "Title Contains a" correctly shows just the first picture, but the criterion "Title Contains t" shows both.
    Searching with smart collections and filters has numerous bugs, but this one is by far the most surprising.  As a geek programmer, I'd love to know what causes this!
    Adobe rarely reads this forum -- I suggest you post this in the official Adobe feedback forum, which Adobe does faithfully read (but only infrequently responds).

  • Smart Collections bug

    A smart collection of:
         rating is not *    (1 star)
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    Known bug.
    http://forums.adobe.com/thread/657891

  • LR3 Smart Collection Bug

    Hey everyone,
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    Cheers

    Change the logic:
    And report the bug.

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  • Bug: Smart Collection/Label text/doesn't contain

    LR 2.1 & 2.2, 64-bit, Vista:
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    The collection *shows* images with the "xxx" label text just as if the collection was created using "Label text"--"contains".
    Produceable 100% of the time.
    Any one else have the same problem?

    That is a bizarre bug.  There is an even simpler way to reproduce the problem: Have two pics, one with title "a" and the other with title "t".  The criterion "Title Contains a" correctly shows just the first picture, but the criterion "Title Contains t" shows both.
    Searching with smart collections and filters has numerous bugs, but this one is by far the most surprising.  As a geek programmer, I'd love to know what causes this!
    Adobe rarely reads this forum -- I suggest you post this in the official Adobe feedback forum, which Adobe does faithfully read (but only infrequently responds).

  • Smart Collection for images with changed metadata not written to disk?

    The thumbnails in the grid view have a little icon in the upper right corner when the metadata for the file has been changed but not written to the XMP (or whatever) files.
    Is it possible to create a LR2 Smart Collection, or maybe a filter, that will find all such images?

    Dave, good to know that Ctrl-S on everything will write it all out.
    John, I *hate* being blind about what is going on. So I can Ctrl-S on everything and get it all written out. But I can't tell how many images I have changed, or perhaps also sort them by type so I can see what kinds of files will have to be rewritten. I can't even tell if I've remembered to do a Ctrl-S and whether there are images with data only in the catalog and not in the XMP etc. files.
    I'm one of those who are more comfortable if everything that can be recorded in XMP is recorded there. But I don't want to leave auto-write to XMP on while re-organizing everything.

  • Change collection to smart collection

    Is there a way to convert a collection to a smart collection?
    I am using NextGEN to export images to WordPress. NextGEN created Publishing collections in Lightroom to match those in my WordPress blog. My problem is that they are not Smart Collections.

    KLanuski wrote:
    Is there a way to convert a collection to a smart collection?
    No.
    But you could give all photos in the collection a keyword, then create a smart collection which includes photos with that keyword.

  • Sudden ultra-slow importing issue in LR5.2 - possibly smart collection related?

    I've been using LR for almost two years now, and have never seen this before:
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  • Question regarding stacks, searches and smart collections

    Apologies if this is considered a 'basic' question - but I hope that someone can help me.
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    Any help, advice or other suggestions would be appreciated.
    Kind Regards .... Jerry

    I'm currently in the process of upgrading/migrating a reasonably large Photoshop Elements 6 catalog where I've made extensive use of hierarchical folder structures, keywords and star ratings to quickly locate photos using a range a different techniques
    Please tell us EXACTLY the steps you are using to move your PSE catalog to Lightroom.
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    I believe this is how Lightroom was designed to work. Smart collections don't recognize that some photos are at the bottom of the stack.
    Also, on a slightly related issue - I've noticed that keywords with spaces (or other special characters) seem to cause issues for Lightroom - while Elements seems to cope with these OK. From the reading I've done it looks like one of the most common suggestions is to simply remove the spaces (..etc.) in the keywords - is that what most people would recommend??
    I have no trouble whatsoever using keywords that have spaces in them. I have keywords that are "New York", "New Jersey", "Union Pacific Railroad", etc. Special characters, such as a comma, will probably cause trouble. Exactly what are you doing where spaces in keywords are not working properly?

  • Smart Collections Not-so-smart?

    I have recently started using smart collections to gather various pictures I have taken of works of art.  I have mutliple shots of the same art works, and I want to see all the shots at once in order to delete some and edit others.  There are several hundred files in the collection.  But each time I make any change to a file (edit or delete it), the entire collection must be re-built (perhaps just re-indexed, but, the panel goes blank it must be re-displayed).  This is time consuming and makes working my way through the collection practially impossible.  Is there something wrong, or is just the nature of smart collections?

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    I posted a question this morning similar to this one. I was also getting many more photos in a smart collection than I had actually edited. However, I asked the question if it was possible that upgrading an image to the LR3 2010 process would change the Edit Date, which was the basis on which I was creating the Smart Collection. One of my respondents said, and I paraphrase, "Of course. Why wouldn't it?"  Another reported that the Edit Date is kept in the catalog and not in the EXIF or IPTC data.
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    If I can't find a fix, will keep with Maximize ON and deal with the larger files that result...the cost of insurance, I suppose.
    Thanks again

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    I can't find the location of Smart collections. When using "Preferences" do I find the location but the changes done in LR are not showing in the folder. And Adding new Smart Collections via drag and drop are not synced with LR
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    Hej
    My question was misunderstood.
    I know how these folders work inside LR. And I normally think to know where or how I can find the preset folders LR creates on the HD. I have selected that all catalogues use the same location for the preset folders (development/ export/ smart collection etc).
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