The desolate wasteland that is "customer care"

Yet another day adrift in the ocean of despair, four weeks since I was sucked into the abyss that is BT. I should have heeded the warnig " ABANDON ALL HOPE YE WHO ENTER HERE" but I was foolish and agreed to a contract that has no hope of fulfilment.
No Broadband ( a distant dream) and no phone! How the Jackals in the call center must laugh! " Here's another Fool " they cry, "tell him we'll call back, that's always a good'un!" better still they ten say that " it's with OpenReach" a mythical entity which can pronounce faults cured ( no they're not) without appearing to anyone!
To really push me over the edge send me a bill for line rental on a line that has never worked.... oh, they have!

Hi lffrobbo,
The link at the bottom of Keith_Beddoe post is a signature which appears on all his posts on this forum.
The link is for BT Customer's who need help, as it contains a vast amount of information and help that he and other community members contributed to.
You can only access it from a BT Retail or BT Corporate Internet connection.
The website which the link goes to is hosted by Keith_Beddoe himself and does not have any association with BTplc.
I would take up NeilO's offer and follow his instructions in his post to contact the BTCare Team (Mods)
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More appropriately, BT Customer Care ought to be called the BT Customer Barrier. Its primary function is to defend BT from the problems its customers may be having and its fundamental ethos is that the customer is always wrong.
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Canon: Best Cameras, but Worst Customer CARE?

As a long-time lover of Canon's Powershot cameras, I've grown accustomed, and been quite willing to put up with, its user-unfriendly site, clunky software and various glitches and snags that come with getting set up.
With the new SX700, another amazing camera in the series, Canon Image Gateway ("CIG") sounded ready enough to take the time to set it up, along with the wireless CameraWindow app on mobile devices. I'd like to emphasize how many years of great photos Canon has given our family on vacations and special occasions, because the rest of this is not especially pretty.
Matters DID start well with the CameraWindow app. Installing it onto my S3 and Kindle Fire (side-loaded its apk) went smoothly. I can transfer images from camera to phone and tablet! Nice start, since it's a just a short hop from there to social-posting.
[[ By the way, for those who use Kindle, I highly recommend the APK Downloader extension for Chrome (for when an app is not available for Kindle directly). I found it while searching for the APK for this Canon app.
You enter the URL of the app (i.e., URL from Google Play). The app downloads the "official apk" to your desktop!
Transfer the apk onto your Kindle and then install it using a file manager.
You can count on the apk being virus-free since it comes from Google Play. Many apk sites don't have the more specialized-type of apps and there's always the worry about how clean their apks are. ]]
But I digress...
Back to Canon's Image Gateway. I should have stopped with CameraWindow on mobile devices, but was tempted by the ability to upload directly to social media from the camera via Canon's site (although it's not clear if it can do that in one-step).
What a pain. Canon's site asks me (you, too?) to log in to CIG even though I've already logged in. I can access my account, see that my 700 is registered, etc., but I'm asked to login again.
This would normally be just another one of Canon's inevitable glitches/low-usability issues (ex., one of its certificates is questioned by both Safari and Chrome with worrisome "careful" language, some parts are ambiguous and need figuring out, etc).
But the really big issue is that when I DO try to login (when already logged in), I get this error page, no matter which browser I try...
https://www.cig.usa.canon.com/error/general.html
I've tried many workarounds, looking for backdoors that take advantage of the fact that I'm already logged in, even downloaded their Gateway Album app to see if that might find a backdoor to login to Canon Image Gateway (desperate, I know). Same result - the app won't even login.
I finally(!) got the idea to see if was "just me" who couldn't figure this out. I did a search at Google for "cannot login to canon image gateway"...
https://www.google.com/#q=cannot+login+to+canon+image+gateway
This is, it seems, a BIG problem, especially when you consider that most folks just give up rather than come to forums, making what we see (here and in the Google search) just the tip of the iceberg. And it's been happening for many months.
Canon gives a variety of excuses, ranging from "server down for weekend maintenance" to the user being in a foreign country (don't lots of people use their cameras when traveling? -- global access would surely be a big part of this?).
Canon's basic strategy seems to be to bury the problem by telling folks to contact Support (whether it's at YouTube, their social media locations or here). Canon looks good by replying (and they do it religiously). If the intent was genuine, it would be admirable. But folks seem to enter a black hole and never come out.
Where are the happy "thanks for fixing that for me" customers? Almost everyone complains that they wasted hours with Support, repeating the same troubleshooting that they'd already spent so much time on. Some report being told that they were the only ones with the problem, clearly not true.
So I have no interest in wasting yet more of my time on this by contacting Support. (I did find one person who later managed to login, but that did not seem to be connected to his contacting Support, given the delay and lack of on-point communication from Canon.)
This is a disrespectful-to-loyal-customers attitude, no way to handle what should be a very simple problem. It boils down to this...
1) Logging into websites has been mastered by webmasters/sysadmins long ago.
2) The Image Gateway is now an essential, core functionality, especially if this actually enables users to upload directly to Facebook from the camera (once all is set up).
3) Even if it worked, there must be a faster way to set this up, to build the software into the camera? Canon could really use a Web-based UI-centric team that eliminates all the needless little barriers along the way. A customer CARE attitude starts well before having to post to a forum or contacting Support.
4) I love the Powershot cameras. The SX700 makes up for the disappointing 280 (with its video-related battery problem and minor changes). For example, the image stabilization on the 30x zoom of the 700 is amazing (the 30x itself is fantastic). And low-light shots are better than ever. The hardware is why so many of us stick with Canon.
The software has always lagged, something Canon can't afford in the long run, not anymore. Before worrying about that, though, customer CARE starts with paying attention to all the complaints and prioritizing THIS particular issue so that everyone can login painlessly.
In SOFTWARE companies, bugs that are "total stoppers," frequent and simple-to-fix - they normally get prioritized to the top. It's hard to understand why this is still an issue.
It's time to stop sending us to Support and instead to just fix this problem. We should be able to...
Enter username and password. Get in. Set up what is now core functionality painlessly. Get out. Watch happily as it all works perfectly after that.
With respect but frustration,
Ken
P.S. A quick follow-up. Installing that Gateway Album app actually DID seem to help. Some 2 hours after the initial failure, I can now login using both Safari and Chrome! The timing is too tight to be coincidence, although I've no idea why it works now.. However <sigh>...
The camera can no longer find the mobile devices (a big step back) and it won't give me an authentication code. And so it goes... the temptation to lose yet more time. Must resist and move on.

Hi KenE,
We're sorry to hear of the issues you've been having with our Canon Image Gateway. The website is currently down for maintenance and will be back up once it is completed. If you have any additional questions, feel free contact our Canon global support for your area here: http://www.canon.com/support.
Thanks and have a great day!

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I switched from a an iPhone back in August and I found the WP OS easier and far more functional than iOS. There are fewer apps and sometime features missing on apps that exist both in IOS and WP but nothing I could not live without.
Overall it was good experience with the occasional overheating and short battery life some times. All these up until the screen turned purple in the lower right corner and I had to encounter the NOKIA/Microsoft Customer Service. After three trips of the device to the repair center and 2 months of back and forth exhanges I had to switch back to my old iPhone to have a functional device again.
I am sorry to say that a great device and OS have such a terrible customer service especially when they cater service to a flagship product such as the Lumia 930. Microsoft customer care has to understand that these devices are day to day helpers and people that pay their money to get them need to have them functional everyday. One week, without it, is to long but two months just tells the customer to find another company to give their money. I has been a terrible experience to for me, and the lack of escalation options makes me wonder if any one cares at Microsoft/Nokia division.
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Better switch to a cheap Xiomi and if a problem arises just throw it.. off why do u want to spend time here
RIP Lumia
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i m having issues with the phone which i made a recording but the customer care support in our place donot seem to be of much help.
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I sure could use some help here when I need another argument! Does anyone know the magic language to induce Apple to behave in an Apple-like manner concerning this matter?

Their is no "magic language". The 4 years has passed and you have nothing to argue about: http://support.apple.com/kb/ts2377. Apple owes you nothing anymore regarding the out of warranty repair on your mac. How long do you expect them to repair this for? 7 years, 10 years?

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Hi, I have a iphone 4 with IOS 5.1.1 baseband 04.12.01 AT&T recently release me but I have presented a problem with the activation of the device, I have restored and updated and I get a message saying WE'RE SORRY, WE ARE UNABLE tO COMPLETE wITH YOUR ACTIVATION AT tHIS MOMENT, PLEASE TRY AGAIN LATER, OR CONTACT CUSTOMER CARE would like to know which means that message and I have to do to activate hopefully help me with this problem and I have 3 months with the phone saying same message ...
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but can not be unlocked
If the phone was NOT unlocked, it can't work or be activated with any other carrier than AT&T. It CAN'T be used with Tigo or Movistar.
Your post makes very little sense. Maybe you can get some help with English.

LIGHTNING ADAPTER has fused to the USB port that is factory installed in my car.

LIGHTNING ADAPTER has fused to the USB port that is factory installed in my car. It will not release from the port and the port is no longer working as a result of my efforts to retrieve the USB cord. I have been an iPhone owner since the first release in 2007. I have never had a problem with my Apple products and have remained an enthusiastic, loyal customer. It is my understanding that Apple only has "extra" USB cords in Apple store. I live in a rural area without access to an Apple Store. Retailers and Carriers did not receive shipments of extra charging cords. This is unacceptable. I am absolutely at a loss because my port in my brand new car is not longer functioning and will likely have to be replaced, AT MY EXPENSE. My "Lightning" cord is literally stuck in my vehicle. My phone is currently sitting at Radioshack being charged so that I have at least a charge when I head out of town on business early tomorrow morning. Suggestions please as I am a VERY unhappy customer!

This happened to me and a bunch of others as well. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4321665?start=0&tstart=0

Customer Care the Creative Labs way.

Customer Care the Creative Labs way.The key phrases here are:we appreciate the opportunity to assist you. If you still require assistance, please reply to this email? To cut a long story short..I have a Creative Labs portable MP3 player (a Zen Sleek 20 Gb) which requires a new battery. The machine was bought new, has been well looked after and is otherwise in perfect working order. Although the machine is just 5 years old Creative say they no longer provide any after sales support for it and, although not in so many words, advise me that my only option is to replace it. Dear Marc,
For this issue, I do apologize but please understand that we no longer have any spare parts for the player like the battery to be able to offer repair serivces.
We have discontinued manufacturing parts for the player for more than 2
years now and without parts, we cannot offer any type of repairs.
If it were available, we would have offered you the repair service in
the first place. What good would it be for us to decline you of repair
options.
Do what you think is right abd proper but like I said and as what my
colleagues informed you previously, we no longer have any repair options
for the Zen Sleek player.
Regards,
xxxxxxx
Creative Customer Support Services, Creative Labs
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly xxxxxxx.
Creative designed (and sold) the machine with a built-in battery.
Creative's engineer's and product designer's know that rechargeable
batteries have a finite and rather short life-span. Much shorter than
the life span of the Zen Sleek 20 Gb as a whole.
I am not prepared to throw this machine away and buy a replacement when
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Unless Creative would like this entire correspondence to be posted on
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Date: Thu, Oct 2009 7:02:38 +0800
From: [email protected]
To:
Subject: RE: CLE - Technical Support Request - (Zen Sleek)
(KMM9595845I5977L0KM)
Dear Marc,
Thank you for getting back to us. I am sorry of what happened.
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Have a nice day!
Please retain all the previous correspondence when replying to this
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Best Regards,
xxxxxxx
Creative Customer Support Services
Creative Labs Europe
Thanks xxxxxxx,
In the case of the player in question, I still believe the battery
needs to be changed. THis is normal given the age of the player and the
amount of use it has had.
What are my solutions for achieving this?
I have always believed that Creative is not the sort of company which
lets its customers down when it comes to afer sales support.
As I have said previously, the machine is in perfect condition and is
only around 5 or 6 years old. It was a very high spec machine when I
bought it and I have neither the money nor the inclination to change
it.
Could you please advise as to how I can replace the battery, and not
refer me to any other parts of your web site.
Thanks in advance,
Date: Thu, Oct 2009 :53:2 +0800
From: [email protected]
To:
Subject: RE: CLE - Technical Support Request - (Zen Sleek)
(KMM959435I5977L0KM)
Dear Marc,
Thank you for getting back to us.
With regards to your enquiry, you might like to visit our website to view the article.
Prolonging Battery Life of a Creative Product
The Link: http://support.creative.com/kb/ShowA....aspx?sid=4672
Best Regards,
xxxxxxx
Creative Customer Support Services
Creative Labs Europe
Thanks for your response xxxxxxx,
What would you suggest? That I throw the machine away and buy a new one?
This player is still functioning perfectly. It never skips, rarely freezes and is generally in excellent condition.
All the interfaces, charge leads work perfectly. It deli'vers excellent sound quality.
As a result of being charged a great number of times, the battery no longer holds as much charge as it did when new. The player's autonomy has decreased sharply as a result and, unless I am able to charge it every 2-3 hours or so, I cannot use it.
The player is not that old, no more than 5 or 6 years.
Surely there must be some solution for prolonging its useful life.
I will leave it with you to make inquiries within the Creative Labs structures.
Thanks
Regards,
Marc
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 7:34: +0800
From: [email protected]
To:
Subject: Re: CLE - Technical Support Request - (Zen Sleek)
(KMM958392I5977L0KM)
Dear Marc,
Thank you for reaching us at Creative Technical Support; we appreciate
the opportunity to assist you.
With regards to your enquiry, I am very sorry but unfortunately,
we do not have any replacement battery for the ZEN Sleek. Sorry for any
inconvenience that caused you.
If you still require assistance, please reply to this email with any previous correspondence to ensure the quickest and most accurate service.
Best Regards,
xxxxxxx
Creative Customer Support Services, Creative Labs Europe
Subject: CLE - Technical Support Request - (Zen Sleek)
E-mail Address:
Self Description: Intermediate PC User
Region: Europe
Country: United Kingdom
Support Inquiry: Other/Not Listed Above
Product: Zen Sleek
CCPP Certificate Number:
Serial Number: 390542004008M
Purchase Date: Aug/23/2004
Operating System: OS Independent
Firmware Version: .00.05
Creative Model Number:
Connected To:
Detailed Problem Description:
The battery in my Zen Sleek 20 GB MP3 player needs replacing. It is not accessible to the user. What are my options for replacing it's How long will this take? and what is the cost? Many thanks, regards, Marc

Thanks for taking the time to respond Mike,
This is an interesting take on the situation.
I do not consider 5 years as an acceptable life span for a machine which cost close to 200 GBP, was made by a highly reputable manufacturer and has been well looked after. 0 perha
ps.
If this is the case, then at the moment of sale the customer should be advised of the limited life span.
I have not the skills, the material, the time nor the inclanation to take the machine apart myself, even if a suitable new battery could be found.
I agree with you that the cost of repair is likely to exceed the cost of replacement.
I shall continue to use the machine for as long as I am able (despite its short autonomy) and will look to Creative's competitors when I eventually replace it.

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