Time Balance Members in ASO

Hi-I have read in the documentation that ASO doesn't support TimeBalance members at all.Is there a work around involved where in wecan include TB members.Please let me know your ideas or a way to implement TimeBalance.Thanks in advance. Narain

Try this: Case WHEN IsUDA([Measures].CurrentMember, "Time Balance Last") AND (IsGeneration([Months] , 3)) THEN Tail ( Filter ( PeriodsToDate ( [Months].Levels(1) ), Not IsEmpty ([Month Of]) )).Item(0).Item(0) where Month Of is not in the time dimension, its part of a Time Views dimension. The key to this formula are the Tail and Filter functions. Tail says to get the last and filter is what is checking for missing. Put them together and you get skip missing with TB Last. Credit goes to George Spoffard for this solution.

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Here is the doc that explains time balance settings in Essbase:
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E17236_01/epm.1112/esb_dbag/dcatimse.html
Here is the doc that explains time balance settings in Planning:
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E17236_01/epm.1112/hp_admin_11122/ch12s04s08s01.html
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ESSBASE / PLANNING
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XXX

EPMA!!!!! EPMA!!!!
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