Time Management Status 7 without Payroll Integration.

Dear All,
when do we go about Time Management Status - 7 - without Payroll Integration.
In this case how the process goes on SAP. what do we do in this status. do we record employees attendances in 2002 IT
actually what happens.
Regards
kvn

Hi KVN,
You are using time management status 7 which means that no integration to payroll.Now as far as ur Quotas are considered then please use RPTQTA00 which is just a program and RPTIME00 or PT60 which will run time evaluation and if u want your Quotas to generate in time evaluation then just change V_556A_B in this table to increase so with time evaluation and no generation for Quotas to be with time evaluation.
The client may ask sometimes for few Quotas to be prorated on a daily basis and so on in that case go with TE Quota generation
else RPTQTA00 is ok.So see ur business and use either of it
Let me know if u have any further Questions.
Thanks
Swati

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Time management status and Payroll

Experts,
We are using TMS as 9 (Time evaluation of planned time) in IT0007. What does it mean in TM?
What is it's impact in Payroll.
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Sk
Edited by: s k on Nov 17, 2008 10:24 AM

You can assign the following Time Management statuses in the Planned Working Time infotype (0007):
Time evaluation with planned times (0): Employees with this status are not selected for time evaluation. They cannot therefore be processed in time evaluation. The employeeu2019s time wage types are determined in Payroll time data processing.
Time Management Status for processing time data in Time Evaluation and passing on time wage types formed there to Payroll
Time evaluation of actual times (1) and Time Evaluation PDC (2): Employees with these statuses have all their actual times, that is, all attendance and absence data, recorded*. It makes no difference whether attendance times are recorded at time recording terminals or in the Attendances infotype (2002).
Time evaluation with planned times (9): These employees have only the deviations from their work schedule recorded for them. The employeesu2019 planned working times from their personal work schedule are used as the basis for time evaluation.
Time Management Status for processing time data in Time Evaluation without passing on time wage types formed there to Payroll
Time evaluation without integration with Payroll (7): You use this status to run time evaluation to handle special time accounts u2013 to accrue absence quotas, for example. It makes no difference whether all of the employeesu2019 actual times are recorded or only the deviations from the work schedule.
The system stores the results of this time evaluation run in cluster B2, which enables you to run reports on the data, for example. The results are not passed on to Payroll. The time data processing part of Payroll treats the employees as if they had the time management status No time evaluation (0).
External services (8): Status for external employees. It makes no difference whether all of the employeesu2019 actual times are recorded or only the deviations from the work schedule. The results of time evaluation are transferred to Materials Management (MM-SRV), and are not passed on to
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Edited by: Sikindar on Nov 17, 2008 3:01 PM

Waht does time management status 0 without payroll integration mean

In our project, the client does not want to use time evaluation and so, we have set the time management status value as 0 (no time evaluation). Also, the client is not implementing (at least now) SAP-Payroll, as they are processing payroll through a different software. We have configured work schedules ( they need just 4 different work schedules) and assigned appropriate ork schedules to all employees in infotype 0007. We have also configured one absence quota (Earned Leave of 20 days per year).
My query is how will the system behave now with time management status value as 0? Can we process absence quotas? What is the use of work schedules, in this context, as any way the system does not evaluate employee time in Time Management. Neither the time wage types are evaluted in Payroll, as SAP Payroll is not implemented.
-Shambhvi

My thanks to all of you. I would like to summarize the answer for my query:
Since time management status = 0, there won't be any time evaluation, which means attendance and absence data, even if entered won't be evaluated in Time Management. Since Payroll is not implemented, the question of time data getting evaluated in Payroll does not exist. However, absence quotas can be maintained, irrespective of the value of time managment status.
Please correct me, if my understanding is wrong
-Shambhvi

How/ where to change a weekly off to working day, working day to weekly off by maintaining IT0007 is 7-time evaluation without payroll integration

Dear Experts
We are doing Negative Time Management where we record only deviations
But customer has third party time machine which required to be integrated with SAP system
As I know, from the time recording terminal, i should map SAP number to all employees and then get a text mail the details with employee attendance for the respective dates and times. Then, have to create a ABAP report which will read the text file and update clock in/out with date into SAP system. After this we can check employee attendance infotype 2011.
But, Before going for above, time administrator wants to set IT0007 as 7- time evaluation without payroll integration, then maintain data in IT0050 & IT2011
Then run Time Evaluation then the out put will be according to the data maintained in IT 2011. Now the requirement is, time administrator wants to change eg. the day is suppose to be working day for any employee but based on adjustments that day became weekly off, another employee suppose to work but again due to some adjustments that day became weekly off, so how this time administrator can change this and where. This is like, time administrator need to see the total work schedule for an employee and needs to change whichever data and whenever or after time evaluation, he could see the total work schedule as desired.
And also, time administrator wants to change schedule manually for any of the employee during that particular period and view the same.
Please note that, ESS/MSS haven't implemented yet.
Appreciated all your prompt responses to this.
Thanks
SS

No
I have created a workschedule on wednesday In a year there can be weekly off 5 or 6 times on Saturday or Sunday So in that case there is no need to create three workschedules we can create one workschedule and change the days Again we need to regenerate the workschedules inorder to take 'off's" in to account. that is what iam thinkinng at the moment. Yes there is no need to do anything in IT 007 If there is any change in Shift in that Case User has to change workschedule in IT 007.
If there is weekly off he can select the dates on which day it is falling and generate the workschedule.
for changing shifts he should change work schedule in IT 007
Is this is right approach please throw some light on this
My client requirement was Sometimes there can be weekly off in the company It can be either wednesday off or saturday off or
unday off or it can be any day.
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Edited by: My SAP Cronies on Feb 2, 2012 5:22 AM

Time management status "0"and "7"

Hi Team,
Kindly can you let me if we can use Time management status "7" when there is no TE instead of "0"?
My client is using "7" as Time management status and they don't have TE.
Regards,
Vimal

Hi Vimal,
The Time Management Status plays an importnat and effets as to how u want the time Process in ur company.
Time Management Staus 0 : No time Evaluation which means no PT60 or RPTIME00 all u have to do is run The Quotas with the report RPTQTA00 if any.
And Time Management 7 is Time Evaluation without Payroll integration.But u said that u dont have Time Evaluation then why 7? It should be 0 but the other possibilty to have Time Management Status 7 is you can use RPTIME00 with schema TQTA for generation of time quota and that is without time evaluation.
So its better to have TMSTA 7 as u can use RPTQTA00 and RPTIME00 with TQTA both for generation of time quota.
Regards
Swati

Time management status doubt

Hi Friends,
what is the difference between time management status 0 and 9. when we can use 0 and 9.
Thanks in advance
Venkat

Hi,
Time management status 0 means - Employee's actual times are not recorded, and his/her time data is not accounted using the time evalulation program. here the time wgetypes are formed by payroll.
Time management status 9 means - Employees for whom only exceptions to the work schedule are recorded. In this case, the employees' actual times are not recorded, but they do participate in time evaluation.ie (.Evaluation of planned times.)
Hope this will help
Manoj.

Query on Time Management Status

Dear Team,
Scenario:
We have some employees wherein the time evaluation will be evaluated for the status of 9 in Planned Working Time Infotype. After a period of time, these employees will be sent for education and no leaves are entitled. In this case, the time management status will be changed to 0. No time evaluation.
The accrued leaves will still be available for the employee while going to this education for example 20 days.
We have customized a rule, which will carry forward the last year balance to the current year balance on every 1st of the year.
In the above case, if an employee completes his education and returns back in the middle of the year other than the 1st day of the year, in this case, the carry forward of leave is not taking place.
My assumptions:
I would like to know an operation which would query the Previous Day Time Management Status and Current Day Time Management Status. If I can able to do this, if it is YES, the last old previous balance to be carried forward....
Please let me know if any other alternative method.
Thanks and Regards
Team Member.
Edited by: Patlolla Mallikarjun on Apr 26, 2010 8:35 PM

Hello Mallikarjun,
If you are planning on controlling thru a rule in schema, you can approach this way. Whenever an EE returns from education, change IT0007 time mgmt status to 9 along with additional time indicator say 'ED'. You can query the additional time indicator status in a rule thru the operation 'OUTWPATIND'. Hope this helps your requirement.
Best Regards,
Sunny

Change Time Management status

Hi All,
We have presently uploaded all the employes in the system with Time management status - zero. We would like to change the status from zero to 7 now.
Please suggest me the best possible way to achieve this. Total employees in the system are close to 70k.
Thanks,
Binu

Hey Binu,
As Rashid said correctly, TMSTA feature is used to default Time Management Status i.e when you create or change then it will default the TMSTA value. Its of no use to you.
I would recommend BDC method because for LSMW you will have to create a file and upload it.
Write the BDC using below logic.
1. Select the Active employees using PA0001-PERSK = 1.
2. Change (MOD) the TMSTA of IT 0007 to your requirement
Selection screen can have employee numbers.
Ask you ABAPer to record the screen using SHDB for changing the IT 0007 i.e
1. PA30 - select your EE - IT 0007 - Change
2. On IT 0007 you change TMSTA and SAVE
IT should be done in no time.
cheers
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Infotype 0007:Time management status

Hi Experts,
In Infotype 0007 , in the time management status field i have maintained the value as " Time Evaluation of planned times".
What does this mean ? ....
Does it mean that absences and attendences are not necessary to create. Kindly help me how the evaluation takes places
in this scenario.
Thanks in Advance,
Balaji

Hi,
This is SAP explanation:
Indicator 0 or BLANK:
The employee's actual times are not recorded, and his/her time data is not accounted using the time evalulation program.
Indicator 1:
The employee's actual times are recorded and he/she participates in time evaluation.
Example:
The employee's actual times are recorded at a time recording terminal.
The employee's actual times are recorded in the Attendances infotype (2002).
Indicator 2:
Employees' actual times are recorded and they take part in plant data collection. Their time data is accounted using the time evaluation program.
Example:
Employees' actual times are recorded using PDC systems.
Employees' actual times are recorded in the Attendances infotype (2002).
Indicator 8:
This indicator is intended for external employees. The employee's actual times are not recorded, attendances are recorded in the Attendances infotype (2002), and time data is accounted in time evaluation.
Indicator 9:
You can use indicator 9 for employees for whom only exceptions to the work schedule are recorded. In this case, the employees' actual times are not recorded, but they do participate in time evaluation.
Cheers

Time Management Status

Hi Experts,
Im relatively new to this fourm, and also to Time Management Module.
We are implementing Negative Time Management for our client.
Have a clarification with Time Management Status.
I have suggested '0' to be defaulted as it is going to be Negative time management.
Just for my understanding would like to know the difference between the time management status 0, 7 & 9.
Also we have LWOP and Holiday Wages in place.
your expert answers awaited...
Cheers,
Sri...

Indicator 0 or BLANK:
The employee's actual times are not recorded, and his/her time data is not accounted using the time evalulation program.
Indicator 1:
The employee's actual times are recorded and he/she participates in time evaluation.
Example:
The employee's actual times are recorded at a time recording terminal.
The employee's actual times are recorded in the Attendances infotype (2002).
Indicator 2:
Employees' actual times are recorded and they take part in plant data collection. Their time data is accounted using the time evaluation program.
Example:
Employees' actual times are recorded using PDC systems.
Employees' actual times are recorded in the Attendances infotype (2002).
Indicator 8:
This indicator is intended for external employees. The employee's actual times are not recorded, attendances are recorded in the Attendances infotype (2002), and time data is accounted in time evaluation.
Indicator 9:
You can use indicator 9 for employees for whom only exceptions to the work schedule are recorded. In this case, the employees' actual times are not recorded, but they do participate in time evaluation.
I hope it helps you!!!
CheerS!!

Time management status for Negative time management

Hi,
what time management status has to be maintained in 0007 for negative time management
regards
bala

Its
9 - Time Evaluation of Planned times
cheers
Ajay

Time Management Status Default

Hi All - Prior to employees being onboarded we enter an 'Initial Hire' action that creates a few infotypes for them including IT0007 (Planned Working Time). The business wants the Time Management Status to default on IT0007. However, we can't default it in TMSTA because they are set up with the same PA/PSA/EG/ESG as they are during their 'Completed Hire' action. We are attempting to default this in dynamic actions but have been unsuccessful (see below). Does anyone have any suggestions?
0000 6 423 P PSPAR-MASSN='ZA'
0000 6 425 W P0007-ZTERF= '0'

Hi,
You need the insert statement too. Try this:
0000 6 423 P PSPAR-MASSN='ZA'
0000 6 425 I INS,0007,,,(P0000-BEGDA),(P0000-ENDDA)
0000 6 427 W P0007-ZTERF= '0'
Feature TMSTA information:
It uses structure PME01 and that only contains action reason (MASSG), so you could build your decision tree based on action reason. You may want to have a unique reason code tied only to your ZA action. Iu2019d imagine you would only have one reason code for this initial entry action as it is only for a temporary use.
Alternatively, you can change the structure of feature TMSTA from PME01 to PME04. You would then have action (MASSN) and action reason (MASSG) available for building the feature.
Hope this helps.
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ESS MSS Time Management: scenario without clock times (start/end) possible?

Implementing (negative) SAP HCM Time management with the WD Leave Request application we found that the clock times are always shown, for instance when requesting leave, scrolling over the leave calendar and in the leave approver's webdynpro.
The problem is that we are actually not interested in the begin and end-TIMES (hour started and hour ended) of any leave, other than the start and end DAY and the total number of hours taken off.
Is there a system setting where we can 'hide' the time/hours-fields in the entire leave request application (without having to analyze every single webdynpro gui elements etc.)? Anyone having experience with this kind of requirement? What did you do?
Kind regards,
Pascal Rijnart

Given what you have to date this is one suggestion (more than 1 way to do this). I'm doing this from memory as I don't have system in front of me at the moment but should be spot on.
These steps are all sequential in SPRO under Time Evaluation > Without Clock Time > Time Data Processing
1). Create a new time type in V_T555A, call it ZOT1 - Overtime or whatever you like.
2). Define a Processing Type against your overtime attendance type V_554S_F - "P/T" Field, make it 09 for example
3). Next assign a processing type (the '09' you assigned to the attendance) and time type (ZOT1) in table T555Y
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This will now generate a new time type and processing type TIP entry and leave your ordinary hours in tact.
Lastly you can define a rule in V_T510S for this particular time type to generate a overtime wage type.
There are other ways also, and maybe someone will post an alternative way - there is no 1 way only to do something in SAP.
Hope this helps
Cheers,
Brad

Quary : Implement Payroll without Time Management

Hi,
is it posiable implement Payroll without Time manage ment ? if yes while performing action ( PA40 ) what we hve have to mention in worke schdule..
Edited by: prabu ganesh on Apr 30, 2011 1:50 PM

Yes, it is possible to run PY without TM. But workschedule must be filled and choose time management status 7 - without Payroll Integration.
Regards,
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Integration between Time Management and Payroll

I configured Time Management and Payroll....
Before It created a problem in time management in absence quotas...
for testing payroll I deactivated schema DAYPR that is time data processing....
Generated absence quotas correctly
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I configured Time Management and Payroll....
Before It created a problem in time management in absence quotas... it throwed an error in DAPPR
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