Time management status for Negative time management

Hi,
what time management status has to be maintained in 0007 for negative time management
regards
bala

Its
9 - Time Evaluation of Planned times
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I am adding more information..
Whether or not an employee is on positive or negative time is determined by the time management status on IT0007. Status 1 or 2 = positive time; status 9 = negative time.
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P2000 This is the critical difference between positive and negative employees. P2000 loads the daily work schedule to the TIP table as if the employee workede; that is, if the employee is scheduled to work from 8:00 to 17:00, this record will now appear on TIP. The work schedule details are also added to TZP.
P2001 Load absences -- to pick up exceptions to planned working time
P2002 Load attendances -- again to pick up exceptions, special costing information, overtime, alternate payments, premiums or any other variation from normal schedule work.
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IMG Personnel Time Management Work Schedules  Day Types Define Day Types.
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IMG Personnel Time Management Work Schedules Period Work Schedules Define Period Work Schedules.
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IMG Personnel Time Management Work Schedules Work Schedule Rules and Work Schedules Define Employee Subgroup Groupings
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IMG Default Value for the Work Schedule. Personnel Time Management  Work Schedules  Planned Working Time Set
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IMG Define Personnel Time Management Time Data Recording and Administration Substitutions Personnel Subareas for Substitution Types.
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Personnel Time Time Data Recording and Administration IMG Absences Absence Group Personnel Subareas for Attendances andManagement   Absences.Catalog
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Personnel Time Data Recording and Administration  Absences IMG  AbsenceTime Management Define Counting Classes for the Period Work Absence Catalog Schedule.Counting
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Time Management can be bifurcated types:
1. Positive Time (+ve Time) Positive time is plays the total role of workflow. All the processes related to time are automatically gets executed in the background. E.g., in our case it is done only partially to validate the attendance as per punches and other documents with shift timing and generate absence automatically in case of any discrepancy.
2. Negative Time (-ve Time) Where the all time related activities like validation of the attendance, posting of absence for wage deduction etc are done manually. It has less level of integration among the different components of time management.

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