Transit time calculation through Route during Location Substitution
Hi All,
I have standard route determination set up in SD. I am picking up the route from Sales order and calculating the transit time in APO through condition technique TRAN.
But when I do a location substitution , my transit time calculation is being done with the original route.
EX: Original plant P1 Route: R1 Transit time: 24 hours
Substituted Plant: P2 Route : R2 Transit time :96 hours
But my transit time in the substituted plant P2 is also 24 hours. Although I can see the new route R2 in the sales order item of the substituted item.
Is there a user exit I can put?
Hi ,
Please try using Plant and Ship To combination, I saw it does not work with Route and shipping point.
Thanks,
Pavan Verma
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Transit time calculation Route
Hi,
I have an issue in determining the delivery date for an STO.
My route is maintained as XXX--02 which is 2 days transit time and is correctly getting determined in the STO, however the delivery date is not correct on the STO
Order created date is 11th july
Material availability is 12th July
trnspt pllng/Load date is 12th July
Goods issue date is 13th July
Considering 13th july as goods issue date and route with 2 days transit time should determine 15th july as the delivery date, however I am getting 14th july as the delivery date instead of 15th.
Can you please let me know if this is something that you have seen before? and any suggestions.
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Please check if delivery scheduling is active and 2 days has been defined in route determination under transit time.
The planned GI and Actual GI dates also play an important role in delivery date determination.
If you are just creating a sales order create a delivery for it and check what is determined.
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Transit time setting in Route determination
Hi All
I am configuring route determination. We have a transit time of 5 days for one route and if the system encounters a Sunday in between, it considers sunday as holiday and confirms delivery after 6th day. Please note that we have maintained Sunday as holiday in the factory calendar because it should not allow shipping activities or any other activities on Sundays in the plant and shipping point, but transit should be allowed. (I mean, if a truck leaves on Friday, it will not take holiday on Sunday)
Please let me know how I can do thatHi Monika,
I havent really tried this...but my logic says that you maintain the holidays and working hours by factory calendar under
SPRO -> Logistics Execution -> Shipping -> Basic Shipping Functions > Scheduling > Delivery Scheduling and Transportation Scheduling > Define Scheduling By Shipping Point
Here you would be able to maintain working hours and holidays for your plant/shipping point and Sunday would be a holiday.
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Hello. I would like to now if I somehow can use the transit time of the route stages instead of the header route transit time to reflect correct ATP. Current SAP is 4.7.
Business Scenario behind my request is mainly for Ocean Liner Shipments:
For Liner shipments most of the times there are fixed sailing Days ( i.e. every Friday ).
Here I use a route with two stages:
Shipping point to port of depature
Port of depature to final destination port.
As a possible solution I thought to use a Transportation connection point in between which should reflect the waiting time at the port having a factory calendar behind. But during first testing I recognized that any time specific date in the route stages are not take into calculation when creating a sales order ?
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According to the business through EDI customer places orders. We maintain two shipping conditions delivery and Pick-up. Based on the customer profile we assigned shipping conditions on the ship to customer master in the shipping tab.
My query is related to the customers assigned Pick-up as a shipping condition in customer master.
As we receive orders through EDI sometimes pick-up customer will send in 2 dates on their orders.
1. Requested delivery date u2013 The date they want the order in their warehouse.
2. Requested ship date u2013 The date they want to pick up the order.
In some cases customers will only send one date that is requested delivery date. In this scenario our customer service team is manually back out the date accordingly so it will show the correct u2018material availability dateu2019 and u2018loading dateu2019 on the u2018overviewu2019 of the order under u2018shippingu2019 tab.
Eg: If customer sends the req delivery date is 05/27/2009 order created for the same. Manually we back out the date to 05/24/2009 so that the material availability date and loading date would also be changed to 05/24/2009 on the overview of the order under shipping dat.
How to achieve the functionality where the system will back the order up to show the u2018material availability dateu2019 and the u2018loading dateu2019 as the date that the carrier will be coming in to pick up the order ie On 05/24/2009 and material available in the customer warehouse on 05/27/2009.
If I can maintain the transit time as 2 days for the route determined (t code 0vtc) I can achieve this functionality. However I canu2019t maintain the lead time because we are not arranging the carrier, customer is arranging the carrier and that will be coming in to pick up the order.
Please advice.
Thanks.Dear Gopi,
My sincere apologies for the delayed reply. I would like to reiterate my scenario.
Based on the information enter in the Idoc Sales orders are generated automatically. Let us assume requester delivery date has entered by the customer u2013 05/27/2009 if material is available, schedule lines are created for the requested delivery date and confirms the delivery date as 05/27/2009
As the confirmed delivery date is 05/27/2009, Material availability date and Loading date is also 05/27/2009(based on the config settings) u2013 These dates can view sales order overview screen under shipping tab.
In the scenario where the shipping conditions are PU u2013 Pick up, customer is arranging his own carrier to pick the goods.
As customer requested delivery date is 05/27/2009 on this date customer wants the goods in his warehouse. According to our system material availability date is 05/27/2009. If goods leave our premises on 05/27/2009 it would take X days more to reach customer. So customer is getting goods on 05/27/2009 + X days of Transit time, ultimately he is not getting goods based on requested delivery date.
In order to supply the goods on customer requested date, customer service rep has to manually back out the requested delivery date from 05/27/2009 to 05/24/2009 if material available, material availability date and loading date will be 04/27/2009. Customer can pick goods on 05/24/2009 so that goods will be in customer's warehouse based on the requested delivery date 05/27/2009.
We can achieve this functionality by giving the transit time as 2 days so that through backward scheduling system would automatically confirm the delivery date on 05/24/2009, material availabity date and loading availability date on 05/24/2009. However it is not advisable to maintain transit time for the route determined because we are not arranging the carrier, customer is arranging on his own.
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Routes and Transit times with Global ATP
If Global ATP is used where are the transit times managed usually? in SAP or APO. Since Transit Times are in Routes in SAP. Is there any equivalent data management point in APO?
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venkat JupudyHi Venkat
You can either call scheduling locally in R/3 and also in APO as part of GATP function.
Transit times are maintained in scheduling steps( creating condition records of condition technique scheduling) for condition type TRAN.
Route determination can be done in R/3. There is a possibility of dynamic route determination in APO but I guess it requires TP/VS and gatp functions.
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Delivery Date in SO not calculated with Route Transit Time
Hello Experts,
We are not able to calculate the delivery date in Sales Orders based on the Route transit time.We are using the Transportation group from Material master , Shipping condition from sold to Party , and Receiving issuing plants and zones .
One thing I notices is if we don't use the Transportation group in the material master , then the delivery date calculated based on transit time.Not sure not why its not working with using Trans group in Mat master
Please advise.
Thanks in advanceHi,
Kindly do not post same questions twice
HI,
For delivery scheduling enter time
IMG >> SD >> Basic functions >> delivery scheduling and transportation >> maintain duration
Maintain here route, pick/pack & loading time
For in house production maintain time in material master in MRP view
Then now system will take in account what is production time + pick/pack + load time and then will schedule
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I have got scenario -
1: Primary Suppliers are in APAC region.
2: They send the units to a site for consolidation
3: Based on the receiving site, east coast or west coast the lead time is different
4: If I cannot place orders to these suppliers then I can place order with local supplier and then the lead time is different
Now I have modeler following -
1: The lead time between supplier and consolidation site is in the Processing LT at ASL Level
Now the issue comes in replicating the lead time between consolidation site and the receiving site.
I can put this in Post Processing LT. But when I want to evaluate the local supplier, then the post processing LT kicks in which makes it even longer total time for local suppliers.
I am evaluating to capture this in shipping method.
But I am not finding any setup or document where I can setup Shipping Method and Lead Time between Supplier Site and Inventory Organization.
I setup a location in inventory but this location is not appearing in the Inter-Company Transit Times. I am trying with 'Extenal Location' as source.
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Promised Date Calculation based on Need by Date and Transit Time
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I have created PO with NBD as D25 (Day 25) and approved it. This means that i need the goods to be at my premisis by D25.
Now the requirement is
Promised date in my PO should be calculated to D25 - Transit Time. So that supplier will be notified D25-Transit time.
Or Is there any workaround to overcome this.
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JeyJey-SCMFG wrote:
Hi,
I have created PO with NBD as D25 (Day 25) and approved it. This means that i need the goods to be at my premisis by D25.
Now the requirement is
Promised date in my PO should be calculated to D25 - Transit Time. So that supplier will be notified D25-Transit time.
Or Is there any workaround to overcome this.
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Where you are capturing your lead time. You can do it in item master.
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Transit time of routes from the availability check
is it possible to exclude the transit time of routes from the availability check
Dear Varada,
no, it is not possible to exclude the route transit time from the availability check process. The ATP process and transportation scheduling are always running together because we have to deliver to the required relivery date. Therefore the availability check always takes into consideration the transportation scheduling.
I hope, this information helps you a little bit further.
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Transit Time in Calendar Days?
Hello,
For quite a long time, I thought in transportation and delivery scheduling the TRANSIT TIME is measured in Calendar Days, which means weekends and public holidays are also included. For example, if the delivery date is 2007-12-31, and transit time is 8 days, the system will calculate Loading Date as 2007-12-31 minus 8, which is 2007-12-23.
But a few days ago, I found my understanding is not correct. It seems the TRANSIT TIME is also measured in work days, in the route factory calendar (not the shipping point factory calendar). In this case, the loading date in above example will be calculated as 2007-12-19, for a typical calendar.
Can someone confirmed this?
Regards, KeYes that's right Ke.
The calendar you maintain, if has a weekly off or for that matter country specific holidays these days will be considered as non working days in SAP. however if you want to change this you can define your own calendar having 365 days working.
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Transportation lead,pick/pack & Transit time
Dear Friends,
After considering transpoartation lead time,pick/pack time,loading time & transit time system do confirm whether stock is available or not.....my doubt is whr do we maintain the above said times in the system?........Hi saravanakumar
Transit time and Transportation lead time is taken from or maintained in Route
Loading time and pick/pack time comes from shipping point
You need to have clarity on backward scheduling and forward scheduling
For example you are creating a sales order today 15.02.2009 and the requested delivery date is 25.02.2009 from the customer side
Transit time is 2 Days
Transportaion planning time is 2 days
Loading time is 1 day
Pick/pack time is 1 day
Consider these settings
Now backward calculation System does a backward calculation first
25.02.2009 (requested delivery date) -- 2 days (transit days) -- 1 day (loading time) -- 2 days (transportation planning time) = that is on 20.02.2009 there should be enough stocks in the unrestricted stocks and system checks stocks for this day or date ,that is 20.02.2009 ,whether the stock is available enough
This date 20.02.2009 becomes the material available date
Note Transportaion planning time and Pick/pack time will run parallely and the higest of these two is considered for delivery scheduling so in our case Transportaion planning time is 2 days that is the highest and hence it is taken for calculation and not pick /pack time
If the system finds enough stocks on 20.02.2009 (that means it performs a availability check for 20.02.2009 depending on OVZ9 settings) that is material available date then it confirms schedule lines for that order this is backward
Same example order is registered today 15.02.2009 and if the customer wants stocks on 17.02.2009
This means 17.02.2009-2 days (transit days)-1 day(loading time)-2 days (transportation planning time) = 12.02.2009
The order registered date is 15.02.2009and the material availablity date is past 12.02.2009 or material available date goes to past.
This is illogical
This means backward is failing here and now forward calculation takes place
Forward calculation
If you have enough stocks today 15.02.2009 + 2 days transportation planning time+ 1 day loading time+2 days transit time = 20.02.2009
This means that is on 20.02.2009 the stocks can be confirmed for this order as against a requested delivery date of 17.02.2009
In forward the system will give 2 schedule lines first that is requested delivery date that is 17.02.2009(in our case) with ZERO qty and the second date as 20.02.2009 with full qty
In backward you will find only one date in the schedule lines which is the same as requeted delivery date that is 25.02.2009 in our case
Hope i made things little bit clear to you
Transit and transporatation planning will come from route if route is maintained otherewise it is taken as 0 days
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Regards
Raja -
Time-out checking log bucket location.
Hi,
Earlier this month, I successfully ran the OSB Cloud Module for Amazon S3 installer. It created a "new registration for this S3 user" with a new "Registration ID". It also generated an "S3 Logging Bucket" with a name based off of my Amazon nickname which at the time of running the Cloud module installer was "javanetworking".
$ *./osbws_install.sh*
Oracle Secure Backup Database Web-Service Install Tool, build 2011-02-04.0001
AWS credentials are valid.
Creating new registration for this S3 user.
Created new log bucket.
Registration ID: xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx
S3 Logging Bucket: oracle-log-javanetw-1
Validating log bucket location ...
Validating license file ...
Create credential oracle.security.client.connect_string1
OSB web-services wallet created in directory /u01/app/oracle/product/11.2.0/dbhome_1/dbs/osbws_wallet.
OSB web-services initialization file /u01/app/oracle/product/11.2.0/dbhome_1/dbs/osbwstestdb1.ora created.
Downloading OSB Web Services Software Library from file osbws_linux64.zip.
Downloaded 20744341 bytes in 10 seconds. Transfer rate was 2074434 bytes/second.
Download complete.
Extracted file /u01/app/oracle/product/11.2.0/dbhome_1/lib/libosbws12.so
Since then, I have changed my Amazon nickname (https://www.amazon.com/gp/nickname/index.html"). I was hoping to re-run the Cloud module installer and have it generate a new "S3 Logging Bucket". I removed the two S3 buckets that were created in the initial Cloud module install (the data and log buckets).
However, when I attempt to re-run the Cloud module installer, it complains that it cannot find the original "S3 Logging Bucket":
$ *./osbws_install.sh*
Oracle Secure Backup Database Web-Service Install Tool, build 2011-02-04.0001
AWS credentials are valid.
S3 user already registered.
Registration ID: xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx
S3 Logging Bucket: *oracle-log-javanetw-1*
Validating log bucket location ...
Time-out checking log bucket location.
Please try again later.
I even tried using the *-newLogBucket* option to osbws_install.jar so it would force the creation of new log bucket; however, it doesn't appear to do anything. It still complains about not finding the original S3 Logging Bucket.
I thought the best option would be to "un-register" the Amazon S3 user the installer generated. There is no documented option in osbws_install.jar to perform a full "un-install" or "un-register". The Registration ID the installer creates appears to be hard-coded metadata somewhere in Amazon S3.
+AWS credentials are valid.+
+S3 user already registered.+
+Registration ID: xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx+
I know that the registration information is not stored with your OTN profile because I tried putting in a fake OTN username/password when calling osbws_install.jar. It doesn't use the OTN username/password because it first uses your AWSID/AWSKey to see if there is information that the S3 user is already registered. Once it determines that the S3 account is already registered, it doesn't need to log in to OTN and displays:
*S3 user already registered.*
I did try this and it worked for modifying the backup bucket (OSB_WS_BUCKET) but didn't appear to work for the S3 Logging Blucket (_OSB_WS_LOG_BUCKET).
1.) Manually re-create the missing S3 Logging Bucket (oracle-log-javanetw-1).
2.) Run the Cloud module installer so it creates the wallet, configFile, and downloads the library.
3.) Determine list of valid parameters that can be set in the configFile:
$ *strings $ORACLE_HOME/lib/libosbws12.so | grep '^OSB_' | sort*
OSB_WS_BUCKET <----------
OSB_WS_CHUNK_SIZE
OSB_WS_HOST
OSB_WS_LICENSE_ID
OSB_WS_LICENSE_MAX_SESSIONS
OSB_WS_LOCATION
OSB_WS_PFILE
OSB_WS_PROXY
OSB_WS_WALLET
$ *strings $ORACLE_HOME/lib/libosbws12.so | grep '^_OSB_' | sort*
_OSB_WS_100_CONTINUE
_OSB_WS_ACCESSLOG
_OSB_WS_ACCESSLOG_CLEANER
_OSB_WS_ACCESSLOG_RETENTION_TIME
_OSB_WS_ALLOCBUF_DISABLE
_OSB_WS_BASIC_AUTH
_OSB_WS_BUFFER_READ
_OSB_WS_BUFFER_WRITE
_OSB_WS_CHECKER_RETENTION_TIME
_OSB_WS_CLEANER
_OSB_WS_CLEANER_RETENTION_TIME
_OSB_WS_DEFERRED_DELETE
_OSB_WS_EVENT
_OSB_WS_IP_REFRESH_TIMEOUT
_OSB_WS_LOAD_BALANCE
_OSB_WS_LOG_BUCKET <----------
_OSB_WS_PURGE_LIMIT
_OSB_WS_RECV_BUF_SIZE
_OSB_WS_REDIRECT
_OSB_WS_RESPONSE_TIMEOUT
_OSB_WS_RETRY_WAIT_TIME
_OSB_WS_REUSE_CONNECTION
_OSB_WS_RUN_CLEANER
_OSB_WS_SDU_SIZE
_OSB_WS_SEND_BUF_SIZE
_OSB_WS_SESSION_RETENTION_TIME
_OSB_WS_TDU_SIZE
_OSB_WS_TRACE_LEVEL
_OSB_WS_UPLOAD_DELAY
_OSB_WS_USE_IPV6
_OSB_WS_VALIDATE_CHUNK
4.) Modify the configFile to include:
$ *cat $ORACLE_HOME/dbs/osbwstestdb1.ora*
OSB_WS_HOST=s3.amazonaws.com
OSB_WS_LICENSE_ID=xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx
OSB_WS_WALLET='location=file:/u01/app/oracle/product/11.2.0/dbhome_1/dbs/osbws_wallet CREDENTIAL_ALIAS=idevjhun_aws'
OSB_WS_BUCKET=idevelopment-oracle-backups
_OSB_WS_LOG_BUCKET=idevelopment-oracle-log
So,
1.) Is the *-newLogBucket* option broke or an unimplemented method?
2.) Is there a way to "un-register" or modify the S3 registration information so that the Cloud module installer will register a new S3 user? (i.e. starting from scratch)
It would seem to me that a user might want to completely uninstall and un-register at some time in the future.
3.) Where is the "Registered S3 User" metadata stored?
4.) Can you specify the S3 Logging Bucket (and data bucket) during the install?
There is a similar post which the user ran into the same issue when removing the S3 Logging Bucket.
https://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=4581188
Best regards,
jeffHi again,
my problem seems to be caused by us having deleted the bucket at an earlier stage. When we ran the installer script again, the installer was confused by this, and was not able to re-create a bucket.
Rune
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